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[Raven117]

Haven't seen a discussion on this here on Gaf, but here we go. Please keep in mind this is a sensitive subject with real people involved. Im sure the moderation team will keep an eye out for lazy drive by posts no matter the position.

GOG, yesterday, tweeted: "Classic PC games #WontBeErased on our watch. Yeah, how's that for some use of hashtags?"

They later posted an apology

Yesterday, we posted a tweet containing a trending hashtag as a pun. The tweet was neither intended as a malicious attack, nor as a comment to the ongoing social debate.

GOG should focus only on games. We acknowledge that and we commit to it.

Amid President Donald Trump’s latest attack on transgender rights, digital distribution platform GOG.com is under fire for an insensitive remark from the company’s social media team. In its latest misstep, GOG used a trans rights hashtag to make an “edgy” joke about PC gaming, and the team’s apology leaves much to be desired from transgender users.
Controversy sparked on Monday after GOG used the hashtag #WontBeErased in a pun, claiming “Classic PC Games #WontBeErased on our watch.” The hashtag references the transgender community’s response to a new memo circulating in the Trump administration that would define trans peoples’ gender identities in relation to their sex assigned at birth, not their gender. It would also erase federal anti-discrimination protections for transgender men, women, and nonbinary people nationwide.
GOG wasn’t just aware of all of this, it seemed to pride itself on using an incredibly sensitive hashtag for a quick joke.

“Yeah, how’s that for some use of hashtags,” GOG quipped in a since-deleted tweet.
It didn’t take long for the gaming community to criticize GOG’s “joke” and deride it a

Link to the story
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...sh-again-after-insensitive-wontbeerased-tweet
https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/448273-gog-apology-transgender-tweet
https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/gog-transphobic-joke/

Keep in mind they also tweeted the below, back in August.

Did you just assume their gender?

https://kotaku.com/cyberpunk-2077-tweets-transphobic-joke-studio-apologiz-1828502562

So, what do you all think? Again, please be respectful and thoughtful in any posts.

Edit: To Moderation, while of course you are free to edit the title of thread as you see fit (and I agree with your assessment), I deliberately left it vague for the thread to mull over whether this was indeed the intention or not. The title now presupposes the conclusion and is taking a position. That was not my intent.

 

[AV]

Stop apologizing for jokes to people that don't buy/play games. GOG / CDPR is not going to suffer because of this.

 

[Raven117]

Stop apologizing for jokes to people that don't buy/play games. GOG is not going to suffer because of this.

All owned by CDProjektRed, but no idea whether its the same person in charge of the social media account.

 

[DreamsiclesPlz]

Incredibly tasteless. This social media dude it just attempting to get a rise out of people. Uncalled for.

Also, hardly an apology. But whatever.

 

[Bl@de]

Stop apologizing for jokes to people that don't buy/play games. GOG / CDPR is not going to suffer because of this.

Exactly

 

[iconmaster]

The first time it looks like a goof-up, the second time it looks like deliberate provocation. Interesting.

 

[FranXico]

Stop erasing your tweets, CDPR.

 

[LukeSkywater]

How do you erase something that doesn't exist in the first place. A mental disorder is not a gender.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Anyone with half a brain could see that nothing was malicious in that tweet. Nothing was a target to trans folks. They didn't wish ill on them, they didn't insult them, they didn't threaten them. Nothing about it was transphobic. The only people who thought it was transphobic were infants who were trying to be offended, pushing their own idiocy on an innocent tweet.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Stop apologizing to people who get sand in their private parts over a dumb joke.

If you have the time to play games and waste time being outraged by a tweet, your suffering probably isn’t legit.

I came from poverty. We didn’t have time to care about shit like this. We didn’t have time to watch the OJ chase. Or cry about a Princess that died. We didn’t have the time to care about Clinton getting his knob polished. We were too busy trying to live and survive.

If you have time for things like this A) you don’t have real problems and are pretending or B) you may have real problems but you are to blame somewhat because instead of solving those problems, you worry about shit like this.

I will say that this company may want to rethink some of the tweets it puts out. But if you are raging at things like this, you should check you privilege and find actual issues to fight.

 

[manfestival]

Incredibly tasteless. This social media dude it just attempting to get a rise out of people. Uncalled for.

Also, hardly an apology. But whatever.

The only thing that is tasteless is the fact that they apologized.

 

[Vlaphor]

Part of me wants to chalk this up to the fact that they aren't from the US and don't quite know what's going on here, but doing it multiple times just looks real bad.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

It was a stupid thing to do because everyone knew they would be forced to apologize.

At some point, stop complaining about the world and accept your own responsibility.

 

[The Scrivener]

"GOG should focus only on games."

I love the use of referring to themselves in the third-person in such a derisive way - "Bad GOG. GOG should know better."

Fucking weird. This social positioning/moral posturing is killing me. Ironically I love reading these "non-news" threads.

Snowflakes, snowflakes everywhere.

Edit: Lyrics to The Offspring's Disclaimer:

So, if it sounds sarcastic, don't take it seriously.
If it sounds dangerous,
Do not try this at home or at all.
And if it offends you, just don't listen to it.

 

[JimmyRustler]

The biggest irony in this is that if gaming media simply wouldn't write reports about this barely anyone would even know they wrote that...

 

[Dabaus]

Incredibly tasteless. This social media dude it just attempting to get a rise out of people. Uncalled for.

Also, hardly an apology. But whatever.

Hahaha I cant tell who is ironically mimicking NPC'S or who is for real anymore.

 

[DreamsiclesPlz]

Yikes.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

not gonna lie, i've been watching the shitshow at Era, people losing their goddamn minds trying to out woke each other. funny to see people jump to being racists towards the Polish in their rush to shit on a joke that was already deleted.

 

[Mochilador]

I thought it was a funny joke but for some it was heavy.
But there is no need to go super saiyan about it.

 

[Dabaus]

not gonna lie, i've been watching the shitshow at Era, people losing their goddamn minds trying to out woke each other. funny to see people jump to being racists towards the Polish in their rush to shit on a joke that was already deleted.

I shudder to think Developers use NPC Era as some sort of litmus test on how they develop their games story or gameplay mechanics'. Ill openly admit I love reading their "poliera" section to just for laughs. The group think there is something out of a George Orwell Novel on steroids. North Korea has more thought diversity than NPC ERA does.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I thought it was a funny joke but for some it was heavy.
But there is no need to go super saiyan about it.

For every issue there are nutjobs on the internet who will go super saiyan.

CDPR felt they needed to apologize, I think that says all we need to know about who went too far.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

not gonna lie, i've been watching the shitshow at Era, people losing their goddamn minds trying to out woke each other. funny to see people jump to being racists towards the Polish in their rush to shit on a joke that was already deleted.

You can't be racist against a nationality. There are white Poles, black Poles, Asian Poles, etc. Sorry, the way 'racism' is misused these days irks me.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

You can't be racist against a nationality. There are white Poles, black Poles, Asian Poles, etc. Sorry, the way 'racism' is misused these days irks me.

But if we change the definition of racism... we can be ultra woke again Gaf. I know we can do it.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

ok cool, then change it to xenophobia. guess that makes it totally cool to do now since it's not technically racism. /s

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

ok cool, then change it to xenophobia. guess that makes it totally cool to do now since it's not technically racism. /s

For the love of god, please don't misconstrue my post. I was in no way, shape or form defending those crackpots over there. I wouldn't read that shithole if you paid me.

 

[LaughingStock]

Silly joke blown out of proportion as usual. Of course that dumpster fire of a forum is up in arms about it.

 

[Nymphae]

I don't know why companies bother to tweet anything other than ads, promos, contests, etc. Use it as a promotional tool, not a soapbox. How many times does this shit need to happen? Let your employees tweet on their own time about whatever they want to, from their own accounts.

 

[Bossniak]

Everyone is too sensitive at everything these days.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

For the love of god, please don't misconstrue my post. I was in no way, shape or form defending those crackpots over there. I wouldn't read that shithole if you paid me.

np, i should do better at thinking before i post =)

will be interesting to see if they do end up boycotting all discussion of the evil game made by a different company than the one posting these tweets

 

[Solomeena]

Another SJW hate brigade trying to censor and be the thought police, fuck them. Sounds just like Hitler and the Nazi's.

 

[LittleBusters]

Anyone with half a brain could see that nothing was malicious in that tweet. Nothing was a target to trans folks. They didn't wish ill on them, they didn't insult them, they didn't threaten them. Nothing about it was transphobic. The only people who thought it was transphobic were infants who were trying to be offended, pushing their own idiocy on an innocent tweet.

Can't tell if sarcastic.

 

[Geki-D]

To be fair, it was a pretty tin eared use of the hashtag. I doubt they meant harm but this is an instance where GoG should have put a bit more thought into the reactions the tweet was going to get. It's pretty obvious it was going to make some people upset.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Yeah, first time could be an honest mistake (considering they deleted the tweet), second time it's a clear provocation. It would be interesting to know why they're doing it and if it's going to translate to sales.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Can't tell if sarcastic.

Please explain to me in detail how the tweet was "transphobic".

 

[Punished Miku]

I'll just say that I glanced at ERA last night and randomly saw the thread they had on this. Those people are legitimately scary at this point. I think they could honestly work themselves up to the point of justifying violence over the tiniest difference of opinion. (I actually got banned for pointing this out to someone explicitly advocating for that)

The tweet is completely harmless. Its a dumb joke to just get GoG seen on a trending hashtag. Anyone with a shred of generosity can see that the tweet does not constitute an insult, or oppression, or anything of significance really. And what do you know, that's exactly what happened to them before for a completely harmless joke.

GoG just seems like normal people that aren't dangerously fanatic religious SJWs, so people are losing their minds. If you have the stomach for it, reading the ERA thread on it is actually scary. Some of those people have genuine issues and the fact that anyone can think that style of moderation is justified is honestly shocking.

As far as the gender issue, liberals have really fucked it up and left themselves wide open for a move like this. They bullied everyone into accepting unlimited gender identities without any science to back it up and now here is the backlash. I honestly still don't know where I stand on the issue. I just know that being bullied into accepting things that aren't real is wrong and completely fascistic. Everyone should have the same rights though regardless.

 

[mayhemking]

Never apologize to the mob

 

[LucidFeuer]

I've got to side with the "mob" there. The fact that for example as a white person you wouldn't give a shit about a racist or antisemitic joke, doesn't mean people who are the target of it will just cave into your aggressions, that's the game. Attack people under any form, be ready for a defense.

I'm not bothered by everything the US president does, mostly don't care, but this issue is grave and real enough, that the joke is actually tasteless and aggressive unlike their previous "did you assume their gender" joke which simply mocks an opinion.

The problem is that CPDR is based in of the world's most racist country, today and yesterday, Poland which is one of the rare and first western country that turns to extreme-right wing. Now if you're racist it's not a problem, but for CPDR it means their company will not hold off in the global market and especially not in the future.

 

[LukeSkywater]

I've got to side with the "mob" there. The fact that for example as a white person you wouldn't give a shit about a racist or antisemitic joke, doesn't mean people who are the target of it will just cave into your aggressions, that's the game. Attack people under any form, be ready for a defense.

I'm not bothered by everything the US president does, mostly don't care, but this issue is grave and real enough, that the joke is actually tasteless and aggressive unlike their previous "did you assume their gender" joke which simply mocks an opinion.

The problem is that CPDR is based in of the world's most racist country, today and yesterday, Poland which is one of the rare and first western country that turns to extreme-right wing. Now if you're racist it's not a problem, but for CPDR it means their company will not hold off in the global market and especially not in the future.

Oh grow the fuck up. Hit the reset button and join the mob of delusional idiots then.

 

[The Scrivener]

not gonna lie, i've been watching the shitshow at Era.

63 pages. 63 pages.

 

[Raven117]

I didn't want to bring up the other forum, but at well over 50 pages and if someone has curiosity of how some people view this issue, then it is worth the read. But do NOT post, you will be banned in seconds. You must bend a knee and pay homage to the appropriate level of outrage as dictated by the powers that be, or face the ban hammer.

There is also discussion of whether to "Deplatofrm" CDPR and not discuss them any more on that forum. So, there is that to discuss.

 

[Fbh]

The meltdowns over a tweet are honestly ridiculous. This thread made me go check out the Era reaction and holy shit, like 70 pages!.
It's going to be hillarious going there in the future and seeing how many of the people calling for all devs to boycott gog and CD Project Red end up playing Cyberpunk.

Overreactions to tweets and comments by companies are a funny thing.
Companies like Nestle with a known and pretty factual history of doing bad things to actual people and seemingly holding no value for human life (specially in third world countries): No problem
A company Tweets an insensitive joke: Holy shit, boycott, I hope they die, I'm never buying from them again!!!

With that said, I just can't imagine why anyone who gets paid to run the social media account of a company would think that tweet won't generate a negative reaction

 

[LucidFeuer]

Oh grow the fuck up. Hit the reset button and join the mob of delusional idiots then.

Well I would if was a PC, but I'd rather wait for you to be a racist in front of me when we have no choice anymore and you can't serve me that hypocrite "grow-up" on a matter that doesn't concern nor regard you.

 

[LukeSkywater]

Well I would if was a PC, but I'd rather wait for you to be a racist in front of me when we have no choice anymore and you can't serve me that hypocrite "grow-up" on a matter that doesn't concern nor regard you.

Calling an entire country racist makes you an ignorant bigot. And I will call you out on that bullshit.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Please explain to me in detail how the tweet was "transphobic".

The fact that they made light of the fact that they were borrowing this hashtag from another group clearly indicates that whoever wrote the tweet was:

- Aware of the political nature of the hashtag
- Knew it was going to ruffle feathers

At least they owned up to it, they didn't claim to be "centrists disillusioned by the modern left".

 

[Hudo]

I envy the people who can get furious about a tweet on the internet. They must have a very relaxing life with no worries and/or commitments to have time for this.

 

[HotPocket69]

Can't wait for Cyberpunk talk to be banned on Era

 

[Alexander DeLarge]

Meanwhile REEEEEEEEEEEEEEsetera...

 

[LucidFeuer]

Calling an entire country racist makes you an ignorant bigot. And I will call you out on that bullshit.

Yeah right, and Daesh are all not radical extremists, and Nazi germany was not all antisemitic. I used the term hypocrite on point it seems.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Making anything remotely trans* related into an untouchable third rail was one of the key elements that destroyed oldGAF, and I'm not at all surprised the people who migrated to an even more protective forum are losing their minds over a tweet.

EDIT:

Meanwhile REEEEEEEEEEEEEEsetera admins are doxxing CDPR employees on Twitter

Are they? If possible, I'd rather read into that in non-video form.

 

[Futaleufu]

I don't know why americans expect the rest of the world to keep up with their internal politics.