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I'd say actual numbers are something like 88M PS4s and 45-48M XBOs.
Sounds like a made up number. NPDs earlier in the year showed the X1 sales were considerably up from the previous year. The rest of the world should be a similar situation because of the X1X. So much so that we got games like Nier and the Final Fantasies.
X1X doesnt change anything.
Rest of the world dont care about xbox.
One of my ~50-100 people local gamer group have bought any version of xbox, all have ps4 and maybe 10 have switch. And that one guy got it free so there is that.
Literally nobody cares about x1x as there are no interesting games. And i know console game store owner, he says that xbox sells shit, even used games are hard to sell for 5€.
Switch wont sell much better here, but at least better than xbox.
Playstationland.
There's so much wrong with this post I dont know where to start.The shit has hardly sold. They shouldn't have done the X and should have gone straight next gen. It didn't make a difference.
They dont share sold numbers as sold through numbers are only one small part of the story now. Going simply by sales numbers is the old way of doing business in the gaming industry. And with Xbox as a service now, player engagement is the metric in which success is measured. The more people engaged in their ecosystem, the more money they make. You'd think a few of these arm chair PR and game developers, publishers and hardware manufacturer's talk, they'd know this... But, alas....Maybe they are just more bothered about how much profit they are making, not dick measuring contests. I mean i'm sure they would love to be winning this gen, but only because that would mean more profit, nothing to do with console warz.
I do enjoy the freedom to discuss things openly in here but there was a time where if you posted stuff from a source that wasn't really credible the thread was locked....the numbers for both ps4 and xbox look off and we all know there is a big difference between the sales numbers of ps4 and xbox so it doesn't really serve any purpose apart from causing console warsWhen the OP has to spend so much time convincing people this source is legit, it's probably not.
Not surprising. They've had no major titles to push consoles.
So in the first quarter Sony ships 3.2 million consoles worldwide, totalling 82.2 million, but they don't expect to reach more than 84 million, which is selling 1.8 million worldwide in the next 6 months to the end of the year?Well here is your evidence that the numbers on the chart are completely false, PS4 did not sell 17 million units + in only a couple of months. 82 million SHIPPED is what Sony reported as of June 30th. Even Sony doesn't expect to SHIP much more than 84 million units by the end of 2018
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/07/31/playstation-4-sales-numbers-82-million/#/slide/1
Sony has revealed staggering numbers for its Q1 Financial Year 2018 results. As of June 30, 2018, 82.2 million PlayStation 4 consoles have been shipped worldwide. By the end of 2018, the company expects the PS4 to outsell the PS3’s lifetime sales, which amount to approximately 83.8 million units. Such an accomplishment in so little time may seem ambitious, but this year’s been good to the PlayStation 4. In the last quarter, Sony shipped 3.2 million PS4 consoles.
Nothing wrong with it, at all. No matter how we spin it, the Xbox One hasn't been successful at all. And won't be. They should've just released the S to continue whatever's left and work on next gen (which they're doing now with all the right decisions they've been making, hopefully). Possibly release next gen earlier than PS like they did the 360. Do it right this time with the right price too.There's so much wrong with this post I dont know where to start.
Nothing wrong with it, at all. No matter how we spin it, the Xbox One hasn't been successful at all. And won't be. They should've just released the S to continue whatever's left and work on next gen (which they're doing now with all the right decisions they've been making, hopefully). Possibly release next gen earlier than PS like they did the 360. Do it right this time with the right price too.
Well now that you’ve shown why you aren’t running a multimillion dollar gaming company (nor am I) let’s talk about the real meat and potatoes.Nothing wrong with it, at all. No matter how we spin it, the Xbox One hasn't been successful at all. And won't be. They should've just released the S to continue whatever's left and work on next gen (which they're doing now with all the right decisions they've been making, hopefully). Possibly release next gen earlier than PS like they did the 360. Do it right this time with the right price too.
Not to be a dick but does this include Windows users. There's an Xbox live app you sign I think that counts as a Xbox live user. Not many use it but you can sign up it's exactly like Xbox live
There are more than 500 millions Windows users out there. Is the number of users anywhere near 500 million? If not, then that doesn't make sense.
No, because you have to download the app then sign up. So if you haven't then you're not a user. Like steam, you download it first. Not every copy of windows is automatically an Xbox live user
The Xbox App is pre-installed on Windows 10.
didn't know people were still accusing people of being trolls or fanboys, i thought the 12yos were now in their 20s. ok ill take the bait, FYI i own an XBOX ONE and thats it. no ps4 or gaming pc.
Only for consumer versions of Windows 10The Xbox App is pre-installed on Windows 10.
The Xbox App is pre-installed on Windows 10.
and if you don't sign in or up then you're not an active user are you
Then why would anyone sign up if they don't already play on Xbox? You make no sense.
Because that's how you crossplay with console users and If down the line you want to buy an Xbox all you PC Data, gamerscore etc while transfer as soon as you sign in on the console
That only applies to people who are already spending money on Xbox Live with Play Anywhere titles. Nobody else needs to use the app for anything at all.
And PlayAnywhere has only existed for a couple of years and the number of users didn't get a massive bump when it was first introduced, thus negating your theory.
As i already said.The information in the Reports is believed to be reliable but is not guaranteed as to its accuracy or completeness, i.e. the numbers are basically useless.
There is a reason MS is hiding behind MAUs this gen, how many skeletons and kraken limbs killed and how many billions of hours logged on etc...
I was the impression that the Xbox One was around 40 million. Two major takeaways here: The sales from Xbox 360 to Xbox One represent by far the biggest drop in consumer confidence and costumer loyalty with regards to the Xbox brand which is saying something. The other is that even though, we were in a recession, the numbers for the Xbox 360 were impressive.
These numbers aren't reliable.
Estimates and such have it around 40 million the same 2:1ish ratio as years before. Which matches what the 360 sold around 5 years in, 40 million.
That only applies to people who are already spending money on Xbox Live with Play Anywhere titles. Nobody else needs to use the app for anything at all.
And PlayAnywhere has only existed for a couple of years and the number of users didn't get a massive bump when it was first introduced, thus negating your theory.
If you were 2 to 1 years ago and you continue to sell less than your competition, the gap widens. It does not remain at 2 to 1 and it certainly doesn't shrink.
No you have to have an xbox live account just for playing solitaire the app existed way before play anywhere.
Then explain how the number of users is only 57 million and not 500 or more.
It can not be at a 2 to 1 ratio as years before because that implies it sells on par with the PlayStation. In order to maintain 2 to 1 you have to match your competitor, or sell more than them to close the gap (ie, what happened with PS3 and Xbox 360).
If you were 2 to 1 years ago and you continue to sell less than your competition, the gap widens. It does not remain at 2 to 1 and it certainly doesn't shrink.
Because not everyone signs up to play Solitaire or even has internet for that matter. Why would it be at 500M and not 57M? You can't just say why is it not higher.
So let me see, there are more than 700 million Windows 10 installations out there, but only a small minority of users play Solitaire, enough to skew the "Xbox active users" a little but without making the numbers look absurd. Ok.
And you just took all of that from your ass. And use it as an argument in a forum thread hoping to be taken seriously.
s because you think the value is too low when it's higher than the amount of xbox ones out there and is likely counting ALL xbox live platforms because there is no reason not to.
What are you even talking about? Xbox Live active users count both X1 and X360 users. There are over 80 million 360 machines out there.
Oh wait, maybe they are counting Solitaire players.... Haha. Get over it.
it includes mobile applications, Xbox One and Windows 10 devices.
That only applies to people who are already spending money on Xbox Live with Play Anywhere titles. Nobody else needs to use the app for anything at all.
And PlayAnywhere has only existed for a couple of years and the number of users didn't get a massive bump when it was first introduced, thus negating your theory.
Regarding the One X, I have to agree. I think MS should have just rode this gen out with the One S. Yes, MS – with the One X – can boast about having the "most powerful games console", but Sony has won the units sold war this gen – the One X (as good as it is) won't change that.The shit has hardly sold. They shouldn't have done the X and should have gone straight next gen. It didn't make a difference.
Sony's last reported sales numbers for the PS4 were 82 million and this was just a few months ago, this was just the "shipped" numbers as of June 30th so actual sales are going to be less.
Zhuge over at *mumblemumble* had X1 at 35 million back in February, and I'd trust his estimate (more than others, anyhow). It doesn't make sense that MS would still be as low as 36 at the end of the year. I'd guess more like 42, somewhere in that range.
Problem is, outside Holidays, Xbone is not selling in 1 million units each month globally. That means it's on par with PS4 ( according to Zhuge's statement 35 mil. back in February and yours 42 mil. till now ). Which is impossible.
A small addition, Zhuge later elaborated in that same thread that the 35 million figure was as of the end of 2017.Zhuge over at *mumblemumble* had X1 at 35 million back in February, and I'd trust his estimate (more than others, anyhow). It doesn't make sense that MS would still be as low as 36 at the end of the year. I'd guess more like 42, somewhere in that range.
The PS4 figure is inflated. No way they're at 99 million by the end of the year.