michaelius
Banned
All digital future is sure looking great
It's really sad with how much anti-consumer bullshit companies can get away just because technology allow ithings that wouldn't be possible 20-30 years ago
Also just a plain scummy thing to do.Origin is a form of DRM. Whether he has digital or physical copies, his entire account is nuked from playing any Origin games since he can never get his Origin activated games validated. Either way, don't fuck around with NDA during beta testing. It's just not worth it.
Agreed.If it was stated in the NDA then I don't see the problem. If it was vague in the NDA and this has been the penalty then it's a bit harsh.
I'm guessing the streamer got their 15 minutes of fame, look what it cost.
I was a member of the VMC beta and had to sign an NDA. Sure enough some people leaked screenshots and videos and were kicked off the programme. Sure enough they cried.
This person will now be relying on the outrage mob to brigade for their library back.
If it was stated in the NDA then I don't see the problem. If it was vague in the NDA and this has been the penalty then it's a bit harsh.
I'm guessing the streamer got their 15 minutes of fame, look what it cost.
I was a member of the VMC beta and had to sign an NDA. Sure enough some people leaked screenshots and videos and were kicked off the programme. Sure enough they cried.
This person will now be relying on the outrage mob to brigade for their library back.
Breaking a legal agreement that you signed has consequences. Who would've guessed? Apparently not this guy.
Sometimes people get sued over breaking NDAs.
Also OP are you saying a digital gaming future is bad because some idiot lost his library due to him actually being an idiot and breaking an NDA?
I don't know what to say to this OP...assuming you're not under 20yo, are you really serious?
Unless you do something really stupid (like signing a legal agreement and breaking it) you'll be fine. Almost all my gaming collection is digital and I'm fine.
Lol. It's illegal to take his library on their own platform?If he paid for the games, this should be illegal. He shouldn't have broke the NDA, but giving companies the right to remove a library of games you paid for is ridiculous.
I mean, if he paid for the games I'm pretty sure he'd win a court case. But he's a nobody that won't be able to take on a company like that so it won't happen.Lol. It's illegal to take his library on their own platform?
No.
No, but they should expect to lose access to all Samsung services as well as any software or entertainment purchases made through their Samsung account.As he should. If someone breaks a Samsung NDA on samsung phones, Samsung should be able to come in his house and take his Samsung washer and dryer and samsung tv as well?
Don't be so sure.I mean, if he paid for the games I'm pretty sure he'd win a court case.
Lol. It's illegal to take his library on their own platform?
No.
You know what's actually illegal? Breaking an NDA, as that is actually a LEGAL DOCUMENT.
I hate it when people ask this question, but I have to do it: how old are you and what world do you live in?
You don't seem prepared for the real world lol
Edit: to reply to what you said above: you think taking him to court would be the better option?
How?
You do realise that he'd have to pay them more than whatever his games were worth, right? Right?
No, but they should expect to lose access to all Samsung services as well as any software or entertainment purchases made through their Samsung account.
Breaking a legal agreement that you signed has consequences. Who would've guessed? Apparently not this guy.
Sometimes people get sued over breaking NDAs.
Also OP are you saying a digital gaming future is bad because some idiot lost his library due to him actually being an idiot and breaking an NDA?
I don't know what to say to this OP...assuming you're not under 20yo, are you really serious?
Unless you do something really stupid (like signing a legal agreement and breaking it) you'll be fine. Almost all my gaming collection is digital and I'm fine.
That's because not everything in an NDA , TOS or whatever you click agree to before you use something is enforceable.That would be up to a judge. It's like those warranty stickers that say void if removed.Those are not enforceable no matter what they say but they will continue to use them to make consumers believe it . The law is not a rigid as some would like to believeDon't be so sure.
He wouldn't.
He bought the games on their platform/service and they locked him out of their service due to him breaking a legal agreement. How can he win a case in court lol
And you know what you do when someone does something illegal? You report them or take them to court. You don't go and essentially take goods that they paid for and rightfully owned
But that's the point: he bought the games on their platform, which, like Steam for example, is a DRM and a service provided by them. They locked him out of their own platform/service. Why is it so hard to understand?And you know what you do when someone does something illegal? You report them or take them to court. You don't go and essentially take goods that they paid for and rightfully owned
The point is that if he had physical copies, EA wouldn't break into his house to take his C&C cd back. There are plenty of reasons to hate digital only and while this is not the best example it still proves that you don't have control over something you bought.Also OP are you saying a digital gaming future is bad because some idiot lost his library due to him actually being an idiot and breaking an NDA?
I don't know what to say to this OP...assuming you're not under 20yo, are you really serious?
But that's the point: he bought the games on their platform, which, like Steam for example, is a DRM and a service provided by them. They locked him out of their own platform/service. Why is it so hard to understand?
The guy messed up. He should be happy he wasn't taken to court and maybe he learns to not sign legal documents that he plans to break, as that can have serious consequences. More serious than losing access to a service/platform.
There's a difference between disabling hardware and removing access to software. This type of thing happens frequently on consoles when you break the TOS, you lose all of your digital games but your hardware is fine so you can create a new account and start from scratch. You could easily do the same with an IOT account.So just as long as a company can tie the purchase of a product to one of their services, they have the right to simply remove or take away anything you paid for? If samsung started an internet of things service where all of your samsung devices has to be connected to their network in order for it to work and any violation means they can essentially disable all of your devices, that's a future you're fine with?
There's a difference between disabling hardware and removing access to software. This type of thing happens frequently on consoles when you break the TOS, you lose all of your digital games but your hardware is fine so you can create a new account and start from scratch. You could easily do the same with an IOT account.
I doubt he actually signed shit for a videogame alpha, so clicking a checkbox to say "yeah, okay" probably holds as much legal weight as agreeing to a EULA does.
removing his access to the alpha, or restricting his access to EA online services, nuking his entire account of purchases is another.
How is there a difference? Sony can't come into my house and remove my discs because I violated some agreement of theirs, yet they can remove access to my 'digital library'. Yea, you can create an IOT account, but if operation of said item was tied to that specific account, then your hardware would be essentially worthless.
He agreed to the NDA. He broke the NDA. He would have expected conseuqndces.
If the issue is proportionality, and the same question could be raised about the Fallout 76 anti-gay incident, I'd like to know which alternatives you would be proposing and what would the rationale be.
Sony can't take your physical games but they can stop your PlayStation ever connecting to their servers again, thus drastically reducing functionality.How is there a difference? Sony can't come into my house and remove my discs because I violated some agreement of theirs, yet they can remove access to my 'digital library'. Yea, you can create an IOT account, but if operation of said item was tied to that specific account, then your hardware would be essentially worthless.
An NDA is a LEGAL contract. And if you sign it, you are under LEGAL obligation to keep confidentiality.It’s not a ‘legal’ agreement, but simply a contract. You can take a shit on the contract and break it and the other party may choose a legal remedy. There is nothing special about a NDA.
An NDA is a LEGAL contract. And if you sign it, you are under LEGAL obligation to keep confidentiality.
You too seem really unprepared for the real world.
Damn, I sharpened my Digital-Only pitchfork for nothing.Apparently, the dude only had Anthem in his library in the first place
https://www.twitch.tv/smokethrone/clip/AgitatedAttractiveTeaNotATK
As he should. If someone breaks a Samsung NDA on samsung phones, Samsung should be able to come in his house and take his Samsung washer and dryer and samsung tv as well?
As he should. If someone breaks a Samsung NDA on samsung phones, Samsung should be able to come in his house and take his Samsung washer and dryer and samsung tv as well?