ZeroGravity
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I agree but I don't think it's this kind of toxicity I would associate with the OW community.The OW community as earned it’s toxic reputation, with or without this story.
In my opinion, of course.
I agree but I don't think it's this kind of toxicity I would associate with the OW community.The OW community as earned it’s toxic reputation, with or without this story.
In my opinion, of course.
I wouldn't consider a staff writer for a site focusing on shooters to be journalistic in any way. So for the guy to second guess his journalism skills is laughable.Hobbes
Senior Staff Writer at MP1st
Gaming "journalism" in my books is almost zero.I have always found games journalism to be questionable at best. There really is no money in actual journalism of niche areas at leat when companies that do publish are looking to pay as low as they can on a business model of advertising.
There is a story here about the harassment no doubt about that. The story should also focus on a mysterious new player, a few red flags and the issue of trust within gaming/pro-gaming circles. This should not be a one sided article. Harassment - the end. This should be a peice that covers community and everything that creates said community.
Unfortunately at the end of the day we have a one sided article that is missing key facts that shed a lot of light on the situation. Creating even more distrust than before and that only emboldens everyones perceptions of a bad situation all around.
It is crazy that this many years later you would only need one guess as to who would have their name attached to a fake story. Basically nothing changed after Gawker folded, huh?Hey, at least Gameinformer updated their article, even if their inane 'take' is still on proud display. Kotaku (archived) hasn't even bothered yet:
I'll skim them another time..... I just tried to and I think there are 3 separate threads about this entire issue. GeezWoo man. I clicked that resetera thread. No thanks, never again.
What's the cliff notes version here.. was this a false flag? Or an elaborate troll?
What's the cliff notes version here.. was this a false flag? Or an elaborate troll?
What's the cliff notes version here.. was this a false flag? Or an elaborate troll?
That saddens me to hear this. I wish folks could have the courage to ignore folks like that, but I also wish those folks wouldn't be going around harassing people like this in the first place.
I think you need to get updated on the events. Look at the post above yours.
Wow what a cluster fuc for all involved. Especially gaming journalism which does almost no fact checking.
Simple solution. Masked players are not allowed in real sports, so the shouldn't be allowed in esports. Every league should have a player profile with a picture of each player. It's the looseness of the "sports" regulations that causes all be this BS. Also they need to create some kind of verification system 4 players on each match.
Ya. And real names too. If esports is supposed to be some kind of professional league of gaming athletes, real info please.Wow what a cluster fuc for all involved. Especially gaming journalism which does almost no fact checking.
Simple solution. Masked players are not allowed in real sports, so the shouldn't be allowed in esports. Every league should have a player profile with a picture of each player. It's the looseness of the "sports" regulations that causes all be this BS. Also they need to create some kind of verification system 4 players on each match.
As far as high level Counter-Strike is concerned it is tested for, has been for several years.Adderall intake should be monitored as well (if it isn't already).
It's radar worthy because people are sensitive and Overwatch is on consoles. Nobody cares about Counterstrike because it's on PC and PC gamers skew older, so they can handle it.After being involved in the league community within Counter-Strike for burgeoning on nearly two decades all I can do is laugh my ass off at this whole situation. This is one of the dumbest things I've seen, and I don't mean the scenario itself but the spotlight its been given.
How is this even on the radar outside of the Overwatch community? This is like a normal seasonal controversy in the Counter-Strike community and crap like this never leaves the scope of that community. Absolutely pathetic.
As far as high level Counter-Strike is concerned it is tested for, has been for several years.
It's radar worthy because people are sensitive and Overwatch is on consoles. Nobody cares about Counterstrike because it's on PC and PC gamers skew older, so they can handle it.
This whole issue about toxicity is actually a common thing in competitive sports. It's just that the camera crews and mics purposely don't pick it up the vulgarity. But on the field, pros are lip smacking opponents all the time. But in gaming, you have people recording audio and people doing twitter and videos. So people see it and go apeshit like it's the first time it's happened in gaming history.
Anyone here watch hockey? When was the last time you saw something like this aired publicly?
Wait people still play Overwatch? Overwatch hasn't been killed off by Blizzard? Tourney's are hemorrhaging money aren't they?
That's like a sports team suddenly adding a no-name player to the roster nobody has heard of. If that happened, every sports reporter would be shoving microphones in the coach's or GM's face asking who this random athlete was and why he's suddenly on the team.
Topics like these are exactly why Era is a garbage "community." Kudos to the guy for yet again exposing how easy the usual suspects + games media are to string along..
At least its good for a laught.Woo man. I clicked that resetera thread. No thanks, never again.
So basically this was Milli Vanilli, but in the video game scene and with the added bonus of gender issues to mix things up.
It’s still gaming, but the game has changed. Now, the game is who can virtue signal the hardest and get those clicks. Meanwhile, the rest of us adults just look on and shake our heads at these kids like our parents used to do to us when we played video games. Do you reckon the journos have a leaderboard in their secret discords? Who’s winning? I think that Game Informer dude is trying to get top spot at the moment. Has some stiff competition from Gestapo Bombe.2019 and the Gaming Industry, everyone.
I see less and less fun and more and more personal quarrels being the topics of today.
I thought Gaming was supposed to be something else.
It’s still gaming, but the game has changed. Now, the game is who can virtue signal the hardest and get those clicks. Meanwhile, the rest of us adults just look on and shake our heads at these kids like our parents used to do to us when we played video games. Do you reckon the journos have a leaderboard in their secret discords? Who’s winning? I think that Game Informer dude is trying to get top spot at the moment. Has some stiff competition from Gestapo Bombe.
Whatever happened to threepeat champions Idle Thumbs? Will they ever come out of retirement? The league needs a boost.They are still lagging behind the triple threat grand champ of WayTakuGon.
So it turns out the speculations were all true and said Overwatch player was indeed a fictional character. It doesn't excuse the doxxing attempts, but it also does not excuse the mediocre reporting by the gaming press, many of which assumed things they didn't verify because they wanted to jump on a juicy clickbait story that seemingly confirmed their narrative that the gaming community is toxic and filled with misogynistic trolls. While I'm sure that the vast majority of the gaming community does not support doxxing, the press were quick to condemn those who remained skeptical while painting them with the same broad brush.
The gaming press decided to run with the headline that said fictional character retired due to death threats, when in reality it was merely a pretext to quickly get out of the situation. The press has yet again demonstrated its inability to verify their facts, instead letting their own subjective biases run rampant leaving their audience no choice but to remain skeptical the next time they concoct a similar story. What's even worse about this is that next time, the story might be true, but fall on deaf ears because the press cried wolf one too many times.
There's too many games journalists out there, hungry for clicks, desperately wanting the gaming community to be toxic because it's the sort of outrage that drives their traffic.
makes completely sense now i think about it....because you can only play one game at a time! /sI just thought Overwatch players had all moved on to Fortnite.
So it turns out the speculations were all true and said Overwatch player was indeed a fictional character. It doesn't excuse the doxxing attempts, but it also does not excuse the mediocre reporting by the gaming press, many of which assumed things they didn't verify because they wanted to jump on a juicy clickbait story that seemingly confirmed their narrative that the gaming community is toxic and filled with misogynistic trolls. While I'm sure that the vast majority of the gaming community does not support doxxing, the press were quick to condemn those who remained skeptical while painting them with the same broad brush.
The gaming press decided to run with the headline that said fictional character retired due to death threats, when in reality it was merely a pretext to quickly get out of the situation. The press has yet again demonstrated its inability to verify their facts, instead letting their own subjective biases run rampant leaving their audience no choice but to remain skeptical the next time they concoct a similar story. What's even worse about this is that next time, the story might be true, but fall on deaf ears because the press cried wolf one too many times.
There's too many games journalists out there, hungry for clicks, desperately wanting the gaming community to be toxic because it's the sort of outrage that drives their traffic.
Very well put. The fact that it was quickly thrown under the Tower Shield of "Don't Insult My WOMEN!" demonstrates the depth of conscience these people have (read: shallow).I think this is the important thing going forward, and highlights how stupid is to to quickly reduce an argument down to gender politics. There were legitimate concerns about a new hot-shot player appearing form nowhere. Of course the argument now has shifted to 'if the player was called Steve, would they be required to prove their identity', as these people stroke their faces thinking they've won the debate. Of course the counter points are
In order to snap up a new female player, were the vetting rules relaxed?
Would the defence force for harassment have appeared so quickly if the player name was Steve (white knighting)?
No-one really unpacks the underlying causes for these issues so they never progress.
I'm not even sure what videogame systems you have Red.2019 and the Gaming Industry, everyone.
I see less and less fun and more and more personal quarrels being the topics of today.
I thought Gaming was supposed to be something else.