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Capcom said Hideaki Itsuno could make Dragon’s Dogma 2, but he chose to make DMC5 first

Shin

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The calls for Capcom to make a true sequel to 2012’s Dragon’s Dogma have been loud for some time now – so what gives? According to the game’s director, it’s all about a difficult choice and Devil May Cry 5.

Hideaki Itsuno is an extremely prolific video game developer. Over his years at Capcom he’s proved instrumental in the creation of countless classics including Rival Schools, Power Stone, Darkstalkers, Street Fighter Alpha and of course Devil May Cry, the series he’s now returned to, with the promising-looking DMC5 set to release in a few short weeks.

Itsuno also directed one of Capcom’s most ambitious games of all time: Dragon’s Dogma. Capcom of course hadn’t been huge on single-player RPGs since Breath of Fire fell dormant, so to see it release a big-budget single-player RPG inspired by modern Western RPGs was a shocker.
The game was a hit and later built a larger cult following with PC and current generation re-releases. That makes it surprising that seven years later we’ve not heard of a sequel aside from a Japan-only online spin-off – but now thanks to Itsuno, we know why.
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deriks

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Shifty

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Based Itsuno delivering the goods.

I love me some Dragon's Dogma, but saving DMC is the more noble goal here.

Also, tacit confirmation of Dragon's Dogma 2? The Capgods are back, baby!
 
Mr Hyde

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More Dragon´s Dogma should always be a priority at Capcom. Jokes aside, I understand that DMC is a more important IP. Hopefully though, this will mean that Itsuno is going to direct DD 2 for next generation. That would be fukkin sweet. The game deserves a sequel.
 
Shin

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Out of curiosity what happen to Deep Down, did they ever give a definitive answer?
Seeing as it's close to MHW (IMO) they could use the knowledge and release it next-gen (though the general consensus is that it's dead I believe).
 
Shifty

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Shin said:
Out of curiosity what happen to Deep Down, did they ever give a definitive answer?
Seeing as it's close to MHW (IMO) they could use the knowledge and release it next-gen (though the general consensus is that it's dead I believe).
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We didn't get anything definitive as far as I'm aware, just a quiet withdrawal from the spotlight followed by extended silence.
I wouldn't be surprised if they quietly folded some of the concepts into Dragon's Dogma 2, but given that Panta Rhei was giving them trouble and RE Engine is the new hotness, I'm fairly confident in saying we ain't gonna see any of its tech make a return.
 
ghairat

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We want Rival Schools!! Capcom needs to deliver another fighting game during PS5 launch. I really want Rival Schools in PS5 launch line up.
 
Shifty

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Shin said:
Isn't this engine limited or was that panty raid? I vaguely remember one of the engines being build from the ground up and was limited to certain games or something.
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If memory serves Panta Rhei was meant to be their big next-gen engine to replace the MT Framework, whereas RE Engine was designed specifically for Resi with support for photogrammetry and other realistic-looking stuff along with VR for RE7.

We've only seen photorealistic stuff in it so far including the surprise that was DMC5's artstyle, so I wonder whether they'll keep MT Framework around for lower-budget / non-photoreal games, extend the RE Engine to account for them, or just roll on with photoreal art for the forseeable future.
 
Husky

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"First"
first!
That means there's a second! That means Dragon's Dogma! WOOOOOOO
 
sublimit

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These news make me simultaneously "angry" as well as excited. :)
"Angry" because he obviously chose DMC but also very excited because this almost confirms that Dragon's Dogma 2 must be his next project.Remember what he said to 4Gamer in the new year's wishes article? Here's his quote:
After (DMC5) its release on March 8, and after checking the free update coming in April, I’m going to refresh and prepare for my next title. I hope to work hard so that my next title meets everyone’s expectations, and so that I can announce it as soon as possible.”
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https://gematsu.com/2018/12/4gamer-interviews-japanese-creators-on-2019-ambitions
"Meeting everyone's expectations" to me sounded that it was a game that a lot of people expected from him and that could have only meant Dragon's Dogma 2.

I don't give a shit about DMC anymore but i'm really happy that Itsuno has Dragon's Dogma so high on his list of his personal works! To me Dragon's Dogma as a concept is far more interesting than DMC and it's far more ambitious.Because of that i'm glad that DMC5 is now almost out of the way and Itsuno can focus his full creativity on DD2.

Also i particularly like this quote from the VG247 interview:
“Whenever I make a game, I make specifically what I want to play, what I’ve always wanted to play. Dragon’s Dogma is one of those things where ever since I was a kid this is the kind of experience I wanted from a game. I think about that and then I work towards creating that experience.”

He goes on to say that he regards it as his most successful project. “The one that was kind of the biggest success in my mind, the one I’m most proud of – that’s probably Dragon’s Dogma.
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Man just reading that makes me want to play Dragon's Dogma again (and it's by far my most replayed game ever)!
 
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Belmonte

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I'm with Itsuno. Dragon's Dogma should continue since it is one of the best action RPGs ever, but the 3D brawler father (action stylish whatever, you know what I mean) deserves more attention at the moment.

A riskier move from Capcom though. IMHO, a Dragon's Dogma seems more appealing to the market right now, since it is an action RPG. I hope enough people have the will to be stylish in 2019.
 
sublimit

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Belmonte said:
I'm with Itsuno. Dragon's Dogma should continue since it is one of the best action RPGs ever, but the 3D brawler father (action stylish whatever, you know what I mean) deserves more attention at the moment.

A riskier move from Capcom though. IMHO, a Dragon's Dogma seems more appealing to the market right now, since it is an action RPG. I hope enough people have the will to be stylish in 2019.
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I think DMC5 is a much safer choice than Dragon's Dogma 2 tbh. First of all DMC's brand name has much bigger weight than Dragon's Dogma,secondly it costs far less than a game like DD2 and lastly not all ARPGs are successful. The vanilla DD originally had very disappointing sales and it only started getting more recognition (and sales) through positive word of mouth with Dark Arisen and finally with the Steam/PS4/XB1 releases.
 
SlashBringingHasher

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sublimit said:
Character design-wise i agree. Both Nero and that new Emo character look terrible. I also don't like how old Dante looks.
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i wanted the old goth look back. i dont want a western take onto it. what am seeing is a western take. thats the only reason besides the combat why dmc was interesting.

you know, the goth, darkness, old castle and victorian design. i dont see any of that
 
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sublimit

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SlashBringingHasher said:
i wanted the old goth look back. i dont want a western take onto it. what am seeing is a western take. thats the only reason besides the combat why dmc was interesting.

you know, the goth, darkness, old castle and victorian design. i dont see any of that
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Yeah the environments also look very generic and uninspired.
 
Airbus Jr

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Lanrutcon said:
Screw DMC.

Dragon's Dogma 2 2021 confirmed.
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Devil May Cry have more name recognition and is the more popular Capcom series

Dragons Dogma made how many 2 mill copies ? Not enough demand compared to DMC

Maybe someday they will make a sequel who knows but not for now

One thing that I really hate about DD is the same enemy always respawn at the exact same spot everytime you pass the same road

I really can't stand that and gets really annoyed by it, it's the reason I didn't finish the original game
 
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Revolutionary

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I hope I'm wrong but nothing about DMC5 tells me that it's going to be any better than DMC4, which was an extremely disappointing game.

I'd have MUCH rather had Dragon's Dogma 2.
 
Lanrutcon

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Monsterkillah said:
Devil May Cry have more name recognition and is the more popular Capcom series

Dragons Dogma made how many 2 mill copies ? Not enough demand compared to DMC

Maybe someday they will make a sequel who knows but not for now

One thing that I really hate about DD is the same enemy always respawn at the exact same spot everytime you pass the same road

I really can't stand that and gets really annoyed by it, it's the reason I didn't finish the original game
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That's all good and well...

...but wolves hunt in packs, Arisen.
 
Belmonte

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sublimit said:
I think DMC5 is a much safer choice than Dragon's Dogma 2 tbh. First of all DMC's brand name has much bigger weight than Dragon's Dogma,secondly it costs far less than a game like DD2 and lastly not all ARPGs are successful. The vanilla DD originally had very disappointing sales and it only started getting more recognition (and sales) through positive word of mouth with Dark Arisen and finally with the Steam/PS4/XB1 releases.
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I understand your reasoning, perhaps you are right, but I think Dragon's Dogma wasn't a huge success because it has some minor issues, which are easy to fix in a sequel. Things like how the quests and menus are confusing and turned people off from the amazing game it is.

Without Skyrim as a competitor, with lots of people appreciating deeper, gameplay focused games like Monster Hunter and with managing resources being more popular right now, Dragon's Dogma would have much more appeal than 2012.

Now, true, 100% brawlers, 2D or 3D are not as popular as they were in the past. Even Team Ninja choose to make Ni Oh, instead of a new Ninja Gaiden.
 
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MisterBrimstone

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When it comes to loving a game despite many glaring flaws I think Dragon Dogma takes the cake. I've never seen a game so flawed survive by great combat mechanics and little else. I love it.
 
Mr Nash

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Glad he went the way he did. DMC very much needed to be resuscitated. Still want to see a new Dragon's Dogma at some point though. I guess that'll have to wait for the next generation of consoles.
 
GrayFoxRJ

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I only want a new Rival Schools, but I think it is highly unlikely to happen. That's a bummer.

Project Justice was an awesome fucking sequel to the first and to this day I still manage to play it casually, even got around learning one or two things from Japanese wikis. I found the artwork astonishing and the soundtrack amazing as well
 
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VertigoOA

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I’d like to give dragons dogma another chance. Bought the remaster... came out at a bad time for me to sink time into it to understand anything about its combat and character systems.
 
sublimit

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VertigoOA said:
I’d like to give dragons dogma another chance. Bought the remaster... came out at a bad time for me to sink time into it to understand anything about its combat and character systems.
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You should definitely give it another go!Just take your time and let yourself to be immersed in its world. The game is a celebration of pure gameplay fun and one of the very few games that gave me that special feeling of going on a quest with my companions. The Pawn system is also one of the most unique ideas in gaming and it can become very addicting on its own just to see if someone else hired your Pawn,and what experience,ratings and presents it got. There was a time i was logging in just to see that. :p
 
Punished Miku

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I already pre-ordered DMC V. I'm sure it'll be great.

But I really think it's time to retire that series, or radically reinvent it. Dragon's Dogma is much more interesting to me.

I'd also be fine with Itsuno making an entirely new IP for a new action game.
 
jshackles

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No worries, we can wait
 
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Weren't they also working on something that was supposed to make us say "They're working on that!?" Did anything else come out about that?
 
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Sub_Level

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Dragons Dogma fans actually got a game this decade. They can wait a couple more years.
 
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