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Michael Jackson died 10 years ago today

#Phonepunk#

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RIP to the king of pop

I really like Moonwalker the movie the best. Just a nonstop crazy ride. Like a music video that lasts the length of a movie.

He was insanely talented. I remember watching the This Is It documentary after he died, when everyone was saying he had lost it and was gone to drugs. Even at the very end he was jamming with his band and focusing on getting the performance right.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
Micheal who?

Sorry I don't know who this man is.

Its almost as if he was deleted and deplatformed from real life.

I look forward to hearing more about this Micheal character. Kinda reminds me of that Weird Al Guy who had that song Eat it and Fat. Maybe Micheal copied him?
 
Damn 10 years already. Time moves too fast for me.

He was insanely talented. I remember watching the This Is It documentary after he died, when everyone was saying he had lost it and was gone to drugs. Even at the very end he was jamming with his band and focusing on getting the performance right.

That concert looked like it was going to be wild. When he announced the tour I remember joking about "How will he survive it". Sadly he didn't make it far enough to try. =/
 

NeoGiffer

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How long will it be until people who know me say the same about me? Time races on.

I don't make judgments about allegations against him. I hate to rely upon hearsay for anything - scandalous or otherwise. As I knew him - as an entertainer - he was incredibly talented, and I loved quite a bit of his output.
 

highrider

Banned
Best performer I’ve ever seen by a large margin, and tonal quality which is pretty much the reason auto tune exists in pop today. Nobody can match his standards. Nobody. RIP.
 
Damn, it's been 10 years already?

MJ's death was a big shock to me at the time. I was looking forward to see what This Is It would be like. I grew up with his music and have fond childhood memories of watching his video clips on tv with my brother. RIP King of Pop.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned


people, if you haven't seen Captain EO, you need to check it out, before Disney cancels it and wipes it from the Earth.

it's totally insane, basically if MJ was the lead character in Star Wars. Angelica Houston guests as a cool cyberpunk demon lady. i was lucky enough to see this when i visited the park in the early 90s.
 

WingM@n

Member
Just read the same thread on resetera. It's horrible, lots of People saying he was guilty of Child abuse and when People point out that his acusers are frauds or defend MJ they get banned by the mods.

I miss MJ he was the biggest star on earth, and a decent human being imo.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Just read the same thread on resetera. It's horrible, lots of People saying he was guilty of Child abuse and when People point out that his acusers are frauds or defend MJ they get banned by the mods.

I miss MJ he was the biggest star on earth, and a decent human being imo.

"User Banned (1 week): Dismissing credible accusations of sexual assault."

They enjoy their safe space because they're afraid of being challenged with clear facts.
 
MJ was a weird cunt but he definitely NEVER touched kids. The people making the accusations in Surviving Neverland are so full of shit. Still has the best selling album in the world & probably the best album of all time.

RIP Mike. You're a legend forever, 10, 20, 100 years from now. Nothing will change.
 

#Phonepunk#

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i still think he is wholly innocent. these charges have followed him for decades, multiple raids on Neverland have happened, and no hard evidence has shown up. he supposedly was a predator with a massive operation designed to capture kids but the only people to ever come out against him are the same few people who tried this in the 90s and were already shown to be frauds. i'm sorry but i'm not going to judge this man guilty based on a Netflix special. if they want to prove this in a court of law, i will know that the evidence had been weighted by trusted legal experts, rather than a media company. i know it's not fashionable these days to wait for the facts rather than condemn people but i say give him his day in court.
 

juliotendo

Member
Had great music and hit after hit. His music was never demeaning and never negative. It was just good music.

But man was he one very strange dude. To be honest it wouldn’t be a surprise if he was a pedophile — he was always just strange around children...
 

Alfen Dave

Member
What a legend.




he looked the best in these 2 video clips.
His looks never improved after that imo.

Best Look: Motown 25 (he SHINED during that performance)
Best Vocals: Rock With You/Baby Be Mine
Best Video Choreography: Smooth Criminal
Best Live Vocals: Human Nature Wembley 1988
Best Live Dancing: Wembley Concert 1988
Best musical production: Wanna Be Starting Something/ Stranger in Moscow

Those are all personal taste btw.

For me, music wise, he topped at Thriller album; with Off The Wall being my personal favorite.

Bad and Dangerous arent bad but lacks soul, sounds a bit too pop-ish.

Invincible; production wise is just terrific. Best RnB album out there, no contest.
 
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I don't understand why a guy who stood trial for accusations and was acquitted twice is not enough for some people to say "well, I guess he was more than likely innocent then"

Do people have that little faith in the justice system?
 

Skyfox

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people, if you haven't seen Captain EO, you need to check it out, before Disney cancels it and wipes it from the Earth.

it's totally insane, basically if MJ was the lead character in Star Wars. Angelica Houston guests as a cool cyberpunk demon lady. i was lucky enough to see this when i visited the park in the early 90s.

Too late! Video unavailable

Godspeed MJ
 

WingM@n

Member
I have been permanently banned from resetera for saying that I believe MJ was innocent until proven guilty. Fuck them.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I have been permanently banned from resetera for saying that I believe MJ was innocent until proven guilty. Fuck them.

I read it again. Surfinn, Krejlooc and RedMercury are the biggest idiots on that thread.

But they're stay in their safe space because they're afraid of being challenged with facts. They know admins will ban anyone who post them. lol
 
Popstars come and go. But without MJ the world truly would not be the same. Can you imagine a world where he never existed? In my eyes he is integral to humanity. He is physically gone but his god-like presence will remain indefinitely. You look at the Earth from a clouds eye view and you realize the whole globe knows about him. Dude is a Titan.
 

Thurible

Member
Dang that is fast. I think I remember either watching a stream of Spore or playing Spore when I heard about him passing.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
People in here are doubting that Jackson preyed on children AND peddling conspiracy theories about his death?

I now find myself in the unenviable position of sympathizing with ResetEra.
 

CeroFrio996

Banned
Probably an unpopular opinion but I find him rather hit or miss, especially his stuff latter on in life. I'm not going to say he's not talented, that would be ludicrous, but a lot of it just isn't for me.

Also, I certainly think it's possible to separate the art from the artist though when it comes to his... transgressions. If we stopped listening to, reading, playing, or watching anything that had been made by bad people some of the best art and entertainment would be "banned".
 

DForce

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People in here are doubting that Jackson preyed on children AND peddling conspiracy theories about his death?

I now find myself in the unenviable position of sympathizing with ResetEra.

There's overwhelming evidence that his accusers are liars. If anyone has looked up all the evidence in depth, then I won't see how any right minded person could even possibly find these accusers even remotely credible.

The fact that the 93 accuser's father was caught on tape trying to extort MJ and allegedly drugged his own child to make up false allegations against him, then that should let you know how far these accuser would go just o get a quick payday.
 

VulcanRaven

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Probably an unpopular opinion but I find him rather hit or miss, especially his stuff latter on in life. I'm not going to say he's not talented, that would be ludicrous, but a lot of it just isn't for me.
I think his 90s albums are really good. HIStory is my favorite album after Bad. It has many great songs.

 

mcz117chief

Member
A real shame he died/was killed. I always really liked him, and not only his music, he seemed like a genuinely nice person. I can't imagine how he would stomach the current hate filled climate in the music/movie industry.
 

#Phonepunk#

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i can understand Weird Al's point of view, as he has always tried to be a family friendly non confrontational jokester. he doesn't seem to be making any judgements with this statement, just doesn't want to upset people, and i can respect that. still it makes me sad cos i am finally seeing him this weekend but classic tracks like "Fat" or "Eat It" will be missing. wish i had seen him before this damn HBO movie.
 
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Chiggs

Gold Member
There's overwhelming evidence that his accusers are liars. If anyone has looked up all the evidence in depth,

There's also overwhelming evidence that Jackson was a kiddy-diddler. Of course, you know this, but are playing the same card that OJ Simpson defenders use.

Speaking of OJ....

then I won't see how any right minded person could even possibly find these accusers even remotely credible.

Probably because right-minded people can also entertain the notion of BOTH Jackson and his accusers being morally flawed, with the former being nothing short of a serial child predator, and the latter being garden variety showbiz types. Truly a match made in hell.

Is it really that hard to fathom that Jackson was a pedophile AND his victims/accusers are hardly saints themselves? It isn't for me. Especially when it comes to the parents of said victims.

The fact that the 93 accuser's father was caught on tape trying to extort MJ and allegedly drugged his own child to make up false allegations against him, then that should let you know how far these accuser would go just o get a quick payday.

When I watched Leaving Neverland, one of the first things that popped into my mind was, "Good God, these parents are awful." And while I still believe that, I don't believe showbiz parent behavior somehow invalidates everything discussed in that documentary, or the other victims/accusers.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
There's also overwhelming evidence that Jackson was a kiddy-diddler. Of course, you know this, but are playing the same card that OJ Simpson defenders use.


There isn't.

Want to debate on this topic? Then post on this thread. If you do, then your argument is going to get shut down, quickly.





When I watched Leaving Neverland, one of the first things that popped into my mind was, "Good God, these parents are awful." And while I still believe that, I don't believe showbiz parent behavior somehow invalidates everything discussed in that documentary, or the other victims/accusers.

This is how I know you have no idea what you're talking about.


Everyone who has tried to defend these accusers only prove to be ignorant regarding the actual facts of these cases.

The documentary is a complete joke.

They removed scenes after they were caught in lies.

They put testimony from so called "witnesses" who lied in court and were ordered to pay Michael Jackson money because they were found guilty of fraud.

Wade Robson already went to court in 2013, and one of the reasons WHY his case was thrown out was because he committed perjury.



Not only that, Wade's own mother help him create this fake story as found in emails by the MJ Esate.

In Joy Robson's 2016 deposition, she testified UNDEROATH that Wade Robson was NOT left at Michael Jackson's house the week he was allegedly abused.

This is an actual e-mail conversation Wade Robson had with is mother. Wade Robson is asking his mother questions (Wade is trying to write a book, something he tried to hide from the Estate) and one question is about the RV trip

Her response is: I will take a look at what I have written. I have several versions. I will let you know if I think it is something that will benefit you.
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Go on the other thread if you want to continue this discussion. The lies these accusers have told are overwhelming. You're only going to post your so called "evidence" that has been debunked for years.

Wade was "caught lying repeatedly"

Anyone who has looked up this case can easily see how Wade was caught in so many lies.

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VulcanRaven

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Great Billie Jean performance from 1992:


I have been watching a lot of live videos lately. Bad and Dangerous Tours are my favorite tours. I recommend watching Wembley 1988 dvd.
 
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