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Zoe Quinn #meToo / Alec Holowka suicide -- Update: Article questions ZQ's account of events (link in OP)

-Arcadia-

Banned
Even IF everything she said was true the dude was seeking therapy and one medication and this was YEARS after he is trying to live a decent better life she all of the sudden attacks him on social media runining his life and any chance of recovery. These people had a relationship and went their separate ways. She just decided to kick him while he was down. That is not justice........if anything she ruined any chance to prove what he did

So it’s okay that he raped and abused somebody, because he’s repentant?

If it’s true, and Zoe isn’t being her usual piece of shit self, which I halfway doubt, she has every right to bring it up.

Part of being repentant, is facing your sins, and the consequences.
 

angelic

Banned
I don't know. Don't switch the subject. We were talking about if she did this with the intention of pushing him over the edge to kill himself. Which is obviously bullshit.

It's obviously a very real possibility, and you're on the wrong forum. Go and join your fellows.

Oh and im hitting report. You're a disgrace, re: the still alive comment.
 
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Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I don't know. Don't switch the subject. We were talking about if she did this with the intention of pushing him over the edge to kill himself. Which is obviously bullshit.

She plausibly did this with the aim of having some sort of serious negative impact on his life. Maybe she didn't explicitly expect him to commit suicide, but come the fuck on.
 
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I don't know. Don't switch the subject. We were talking about if she did this with the intention of pushing him over the edge to kill himself. Which is obviously bullshit.
So it’s okay that he raped and abused somebody, because he’s repentant?

If it’s true, and Zoe isn’t being her usual piece of shit self, which I halfway doubt, she has every right to bring it up.

Part of being repentant, is facing your sins, and the consequences.

In context, she was still in contact with him AND was in therapy AND apparently was dealing with depression, something Quinn is ever so empathetic of.

Suppose the allegations are true. Why come out now? There are really only two options - either she wanted to ruin him at his weakest moment, or he was a pawn in her and Sarkeesian's new push to Pound Gaming Too.

And that is a big supposition. The whole "He pulled me by the pussy!" thing alone is so fucking absurd that there is no way that it is true.
 
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This isn’t ReetardEra. Calm down, and realize I’m talking about the whipping up action itself. If the allegations are true, she’d be justified to try to do it, but the mob itself would not be justified to jump on board, without evidence.

Nothing about that contradicts.
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.
 
Zoe Quinn less than a week ago: "Ermagerd I'm so brave, coming forward!"
Zoe Quinn today: *Flees like a coward, burns Twitter account to the ground*

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-Arcadia-

Banned
In context, she was still in contact with him AND was in therapy AND apparently was dealing with depression, something Quinn is ever so empathetic of.

Suppose the allegations are true. Why come out now? There are really only two options - either she wanted to ruin him at his weakest moment, or he was a pawn in her and Sarkeesian's new push to Pound Gaming Too.

And that is a big supposition. The whole "He pulled me by the pussy!" thing alone is so fucking absurd that there is no way that it is true.

Well, that’s a bit different. I didn’t know they were in contact, she knew, and they were working past it.

That’s actually a lot different. Can I get the source? I believe you, but if I take this line against an SJW, I want concrete proof.
 
Well, that’s a bit different. I didn’t know they were in contact, she knew, and they were working past it.

That’s actually a lot different. Can I get the source? I believe you, but if I take this line against an SJW, I want concrete proof.

From what I saw elsewhere, Alec's sister mentioned something about it in her Tweet confirming the suicide, but she protected her Twitter and no one has the actual Tweet.
 
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So it’s okay that he raped and abused somebody, because he’s repentant?

If it’s true, and Zoe isn’t being her usual piece of shit self, which I halfway doubt, she has every right to bring it up.

Part of being repentant, is facing your sins, and the consequences.
Nothing he did now excuses his actions before. But honestly answer me this. What GOOD came out of accusing someone of rape years later when the guy is actually trying to correct his behavior???? Just because you were in an abusive relationship dose not give you the right to slander someone’s name years later on social media for the whole world to see. (I was in a mentally abusive relationship torn 3 years, do you see me trying to “get even” with that person fucking YEARS later???! No because I’m not a piece of shit she dose not deserve that despit what she did to me. The relationship is OVER) You are a vindictive and petty person if you this thing. It’s not like he was still harassing her and she had no where else to go after they have already seperated years ago.
 
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And Gameindustry.biz reporting.


At least his death is (rightly) being reported on. Regardless of which stance someone takes, this is a tragedy all around and it should be discussed. It would have been much worse if gaming journalists kept quiet.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Nothing he did now excuses his actions before. But honestly answer me this. What GOOD came out of accusing someone of rape years later when the guy is actually trying to correct his behavior???? Just because you were in an abusive relationship dose not give you the right to slander someone’s name years later on social media for the whole world to see. (I was in a mentally abusive relationship torn 3 years, do you see me trying to “get even” with that person fucking YEARS later???! No because I’m not a piece of shit she dose not deserve that despit what she did to me. The relationship is OVER) You are a vindictive and petty person if you this thing. It’s not like he was still harassing her and she had no where else to after they have already seperated years ago.

I did not know that apparently she knew that he was trying to correct his behavior, and they were in contact.

I was speaking of the scenario I was aware of, where all lines of communication were severed. I feel it’s okay to call out an actual rapist any time, both for the emotional release, and to protect others.

What I don’t think is okay, is people getting on board without proof. And furthermore, apparently being in contact with the guy, knowing he’s turning his life around, coming to a peace with him... then stabbing him in the back like this.
 

CRON

Banned
At least his death is (rightly) being reported on. Regardless of which stance someone takes, this is a tragedy all around and it should be discussed. It would have been much worse if gaming journalists kept quiet.
A lot of writers probably feel in between a rock and a hard place. Due to vocal minorities and echo chambers, you're either going to be accused of siding with an alleged rapist, or siding with a compulsive liar.
 

Acidizer

Banned
Resetera is fucking poison. Some good people at the moment speaking out against them and their rabid ideology, probably now banned of course. Some of them saying they are quitting the site - the more people that come to that conclusion the better. Angers me they ban people and label them "troll accounts" as the ban reason because they made them look bad, trying to discredit them. Scum tactics. That this happens regularly and is standard practice says it all.
 
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A lot of writers probably feel in between a rock and a hard place. Due to vocal minorities and echo chambers, you're either going to be accused of siding with an alleged rapist, or siding with a compulsive liar.
Sure, and please excuse my dripping sarcasm, but one does have the option of saying "Wow, these are some really strong allegations. Let's allow law enforcement to sort this out" and not stirring into a hate mob.

I think we need to stop caring about who were are accused of siding with and just state the truth when we see the truth.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Cue a barrage of articles from the likes of Kotaku/Polygon/Waypoint Vice about how poor Zoe Quinn has had to go into hiding and has recieved 1,354,896 death threats (all documented, of course) and that gamers are evil trash.

Oh yeah...and some guy died something, something...but, it has nothing to do with brave Zoe, she was just being courageous and strong.

Long live Queen Zoe!







Can I have some pussy now oh Queen of Geekdom?
 
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-Arcadia-

Banned
Archive of the sister’s tweet. I’m working on finding Zoe’s, but maybe this, and all relevant information could be added to the OP, so we can all keep things straight?

Not trying to be bossy, but I’ve already made an erroneous post based on bad information, so the more informed we are, the better we can discuss this.

 
Archive of the sister’s tweet. I’m working on finding Zoe’s, but maybe this, and all relevant information could be added to the OP, so we can all keep things straight?

Not trying to be bossy, but I’ve already made an erroneous post based on bad information, so the more informed we are, the better we can discuss this.


That has the part showing that he was getting rehabilitated, but not the part with her still being in contact. Let me see if I can find something.
 
I did not know that apparently she knew that he was trying to correct his behavior, and they were in contact.

I was speaking of the scenario I was aware of, where all lines of communication were severed. I feel it’s okay to call out an actual rapist any time, both for the emotional release, and to protect others.

What I don’t think is okay, is people getting on board without proof. And furthermore, apparently being in contact with the guy, knowing he’s turning his life around, coming to a peace with him... then stabbing him in the back like this.
Really I think the relationship turned sour and he started to become an abusive partner. As someone who has going through that I can have the deepest sympathy for them but announcing to the world about everything he or she did in a relationship with someone that was years ago is just wrong. This wasn’t (at lest I speculate) a case like Bill Cosby where he used his fame as power to take advantage of women. He sounds like a person who became abuse and later wanted to better himself. No good comes from street revenge
 
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So it’s okay that he raped and abused somebody, because he’s repentant?

If it’s true, and Zoe isn’t being her usual piece of shit self, which I halfway doubt, she has every right to bring it up.

Part of being repentant, is facing your sins, and the consequences.

Some of what you say has pertinence. But ... mobs haranguing a mentally ill abuse victim to his death?

I don't know about what he did or didn't do. And it could easily be that people have been treated badly by him and feel the need to speak out. That would be fair enough.

But games journalists calling down the mob on someone without knowing or even caring what's true? No interest in telling the full story? Hugely popular forums being moderated in the direction of attacking someone until their entire future is eradicated?

I don't like what's happened here.
 
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Flintty

Member
Resetera is fucking poison. Some good people at the moment speaking out against them and their rabid ideology, probably now banned of course. Some of them saying they are quitting the site - the more people that come to that conclusion the better. Angers me they ban people and label them "troll accounts" as the ban reason because they made them look bad, trying to discredit them. Scum tactics. That this happens regularly and is standard practice says it all.

Yup. Seen a few “Banned: Inflammatory Accusations; Ignoring Staff Post” to very reasonable posts. Unreal.
 
Imagine being Alec's sister, having to go on Twitter to announce his suicide.

What a messed up world. People can't even kill themselves in private anymore. She's grieving for her brother yet has to log into a social media site and say "hey mob, my brother killed himself. Just thought you should know".

Dystopian future.
 

Whitesnake

Banned
I hope the accusations are true, else Quinn has an innocent man's blood on her hands.

Betcha when she comes she's gonna use this event complain about all the "harassment" and "death threats" she supposedly recieved to garner sympathy for herself like the scumfuck she is.
 
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nkarafo

Member
So now he is dead and she is going to carry that death for the rest of her life. Everyone loses.

I blame the studio who fired him the most.
 
Zoe Quinn less than a week ago: "Ermagerd I'm so brave, coming forward!"
Zoe Quinn today: *Flees like a coward, burns Twitter account to the ground*

QpO5KEc.png
Just wait a month and her account will go back up. And she will be interviewed by Kotaku, Polygon, RPS, etc. on how brave she was at taking Alec down and facing the "abuse" & "harassment" on Twitter.
 
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Cue a barrage of articles from the likes of Kotaku/Polygon/Waypoint Vice about how poor Zoe Quinn has had to go into hiding and has recieved 1,354,896 death threats (all documented, of course) and that gamers are evil trash.

Oh yeah...and some guy died something, something...but, it has nothing to do with brave Zoe, she was just being courageous and strong.

Long live Queen Zoe!







Can I have some pussy now oh Queen of Geekdom?
Vice ain't gonna say shit. Old rape time biotch Klepik doesn't want his secret to be outed next. He'll be a good little cuck to old Zoe if he knows what's good for him.
 
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Boss Key

Neo Member
Resetera is fucking poison. Some good people at the moment speaking out against them and their rabid ideology, probably now banned of course. Some of them saying they are quitting the site - the more people that come to that conclusion the better. Angers me they ban people and label them "troll accounts" as the ban reason because they made them look bad, trying to discredit them. Scum tactics. That this happens regularly and is standard practice says it all.

It’s the reason I came here! If you dare have a difference of opinion (and mine was very mild) they ban you.

So fuck them I’ll never go back
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Further proof that the biggest edgelords are all sjws now.

It’s about doing whatever’s popular at that moment. The people that used to be cool (not that Zoe fantasizing about killing people, and bragging about taking out a furry, is cool in any way), then went full batshit, have no character or thoughts of their own. They’re just glomming onto whatever is the accepted trend at that time.
 
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