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Possibly the best UFO clip ever was recorded yesterday

Nymphae

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I watched the video and it showed horizon was lower than his yellow line when the capsule was in the air.

I don't believe it does, take a screenshot.

The simulated model on the left shows how far the horizon should have dropped on a ball Earth. We should be seeing something like that. And when you are in the cockpit view from behind Felix, you can see clearly that 1 - the vessel is not shaking with respect to the horizon, which 2 - is visible in the camera view at the same height it was on the ground.
 
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MadAnon

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I don't believe it does, take a screenshot.

The simulated model on the left shows how far the horizon should have dropped on a ball Earth. We should be seeing something like that. And when you are in the cockpit view from behind Felix, you can see clearly that 1 - the vessel is not shaking with respect to the horizon, which 2 - is visible in the camera view at the same height it was on the ground.
I already pointed out you the problems with your simulation compared to Baumgartner video. It doesn't have to shake. The moment it lifted a center of gravity might cause a small, permanent tilt.

And I'm talking about the yellow line at the beginning where he marks the horizon on the inside camera while capsule is still on the ground and then he switches to view in the air and the horizon is clearly under the line.
 
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Nymphae

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I already pointed out you the problems with your simulation.

And I'm talking about the yellow line at the beginning where he marks the horizon on the inside camera while capsule is still on the ground and then he switches to view in the air and the horizon is clearly under the line.

No it is not, show me a screenshot, I've watched that video several times. The horizon should be massively hidden from view, even being visible from the cockpit at all is impossible on a globe model. You can see the horizon in both camera shots. You're claiming that the vessel was tilted at a constant tilt to bring horizon into view, and I call BS, it's level like it was on the ground, why would they specifically make the vessel tilt forward any amount? You'd want a nice flat platform to stand and jump from. And again, the video shows no movement of the vessel at all really with respect to the visible horizon.
 
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Well you are going to have to provide that video. But why is there a limit to what you can see on a flat earth? As you go up why can't you see it all? Why can I call up someone far away and they say it's dark there and where i'm at it's daylight?

i think we should all agree that if anyone knows if the Earth is truly round or flat, it’s a mothafuckin’ Metal Alien
 

MadAnon

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But it's supposed to be hidden by a physical barrier (the curvature of the ball), and zooming wouldn't bring it back into view if that were the case.


He zooms in but proportionaly you see the same amount. Why the bottom of the buildings and street doesn't come into view. According to you, zooming should make these buildings emerge gradually from behind the water.

I posted this video to one flat earther a while back on this forum. And to no surprise he shut up about his "perspective makes things sink behind horizon"
 
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nemiroff

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I know it's no use to try to convince people with mental health issues or have faulty programming, but, for fun, I just wonder what their counter argument for this is:



Let me guess: Actors, smoke and mirrors?
 
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Nymphae

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He zooms in but proportionally you see the same amount. Why the bottom of the buildings and street doesn't come into view. According to you, zooming should make these buildings emerge gradually from behind the water.

I posted this video to one flat earther a while back on this forum. And to no surprise he shut up about his "perspective makes things sink behind horizon"


I'll find the video later tonight maybe if you actually care, it's pretty easy to demonstrate how the bottom of objects will disappear first at a distance on a plane. The angle is too narrow for optics to be able to resolve the image of the ground, things above that will still be visible.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit


He zooms in but proportionally you see the same amount. Why the bottom of the buildings and street doesn't come into view. According to you, zooming should make these buildings emerge gradually from behind the water.

I posted this video to one flat earther a while back on this forum. And to no surprise he shut up about his "perspective makes things sink behind horizon"


Clearly it is the use of the government using special technology to stop you from seeing the truth.

You just don't get it you *basic bitch*. Clearly I am the more intelligent person because I don't believe what others believe nor centuries of scientific development. Now excuse me while I go suck on the end of a tailpipe. Didn't you know? It is the best way to raise IQ levels because the government says it is dangerous! Clearly they are lying.
 
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MadAnon

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No it is not, show me a screenshot, I've watched that video several times. The horizon should be massively hidden from view, even being visible from the cockpit at all is impossible on a globe model. You can see the horizon in both camera shots. You're claiming that the vessel was tilted at a constant tilt to bring horizon into view, and I call BS, it's level like it was on the ground, why would they specifically make the vessel tilt forward any amount? You'd want a nice flat platform to stand and jump from. And again, the video shows no movement of the vessel at all really with respect to the visible horizon.
At 9:00 and forward when it switches to view in the air. Clear drop below the line.

I didn't say it was tilted just to bring horizon higher into view. How can you tell a difference between no tilt on a flat ground compared to tiny 2-3 degrees tilt in the air. It would be basically undectable tilt for a person in that capsule. But go play around with the tool I linked and see how it changes horizon and eye-level in a perfectly stable simulation. Same goes for wider view angle than the one used in the simulation.
 
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MadAnon

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I'll find the video later tonight maybe if you actually care, it's pretty easy to demonstrate how the bottom of objects will disappear first at a distance on a plane. The angle is too narrow for optics to be able to resolve the image of the ground, things above that will still be visible.
I don't need other videos because this one is enough to disprove your bullshit. Keep up making bullshit. Too narrow angle lmao. What has angle to do with parts that are clearly hidden behind water. Show me how you use wide angle lence to bring something into view from behind the corner of your house. You can go with your pseudo science to flat earth conference.

I'm done here.
 
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Weilthain

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Clearly it is the use of the government using special technology to stop you from seeing the truth.

You just don't get it you *basic bitch*. Clearly I am the more intelligent person because I don't believe what others believe nor centuries of scientific development. Now excuse me while I go suck on the end of a tailpipe. Didn't you know? It is the best way to raise IQ levels because the government says it is dangerous! Clearly they are lying.
Don’t steal my jokes and don’t be so mean.

here’s a cool video demonstrating perspective

 

Nymphae

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At 9:00 and forward when it switches to view in the air. Clear drop below the line.

It should drop far far out of view, not just barely behind the line. It should not be visible at all, unless we posit that the craft is angled downwards to keep eye level focused on the horizon, and not moving from that angle (because we can see no movement with respect to the horizon.)

But go play around with the tool I linked and see how it changes horizon and eye-level un a perfectly stable simulation. Same goes for wider view angle than the one used in the simulation.

Can you relink this I don't know what you're referring to. If it's the same tool I'm thinking of, I have another video detailing how this horizon viewing application has deceptive default settings which keep horizon at eye level, rather than keeping it's position true relative to the flat eye level of a rising observer.

I don't need anymore videos because this one is enough to disprove your bullshit. Keep up making bullshit. Too narrow angle lmao. What has angle to do with parts that are clearly hidden behind water.

Like I said, I recently watched some videos explaining this, if you want to ask me how angle is a factor, but refuse to look at the info I share, not sure what else we can do here.
 
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Weilthain

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Nymphae

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No Sphere Earth = No cell phones

Satellites are pretty interesting too when you dig into those. Ever seen NASA launch an 8 tonne satellite from Antarctica on a helium balloon? Not many people know about those satellite launches. They're up there on fucking balloons. I can send you the videos if you want.

But anyway, satellites in space are not necessary for telecommunications


Most people probably don't know that 99 percent of all transoceanic data traffic goes through undersea cables, and that includes Internet usage, phone calls and text messages. This route is also faster than satellite transmissions, by up to eight-fold.

I was watching a new video the other day too about how planes lose access to GPS over the Pacific, and they have to use this super old technology (forgive me I just watched it the other day and forget the terminology) to coordinate their position with the ground stations. GPS should work everywhere, why are they losing it over the oceans?
 
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Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Why don’t you guys go and make a Conspiracy Fights: Balls vs Walls OT or something? This thread is way off topic.
 

Airola

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Why does most space stories devolve into flat earth theories here?

Because aliens are boring. Extraterrestrials were the most mysterious shit decades ago and since then we've had so many movies, tv-series, books, comics and games about them that a regular alien theory just doesn't do much anymore. So what's the next most exciting theory? A sudden curve ball to say that the dark age people were correct and our planet is not round but flat. And if that doesn't set the feeling of mystery high enough, you can always go even wilder and say space doesn't really exist at all.

But all of that is something more religious people like to think. The non-religious people have already chosen multiverse and simulation theories to satisfy their love for mystery.
 

Ornlu

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Most........ I think you mean all :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I'm not a flat Earther, but I work in a laser lab and I think that's not a good demonstration (the helicopter is fine though). If they go three miles out on the lake, then for the laser beam to shift up by 2 meters all it would take is a vertical misalignment of two hundreds of a degree. In terms of precision alignment this is actually not that much, you can do it with a normal kinematic mount without any differential adjusters. However, that's when talking about everything being rigidly mounted to an optical table that is floating on compressed air to damp out vibrations. They're using a laser mounted on what looks like camera tripods, and it's standing on a beach, that's not a stable surface.

Furthermore they don't give any explanation for what they use as a reference for their alignment. What I mean is, how are they sure that the beam is straight? They can't measure it by looking at the beam spot far away, because then they would be assuming the thing they want to measure. This is actually the key point of the whole experiment, and the fact that they don't address it means that the demonstration is pointless, and such "demonstrations" only give fuel to flat Earthers.

There are better ways of doing the experiment, for example setting up two lasers on either side of the lake, measuring the height (not precisely, but a few orders of magnitude more than the expected drop) of both of them, and then aligning them to each other such that they're parallel. Then the laser isn't parallel to the water any more, however you will still see the beam height change as you go across the lake. Specifically, it should change in a way that is symmetric around the half way point between both lasers. This symmetry directly proves the curvature, and eliminates the need for an ultra precise reference.

The Mods made a thread for Flat Earf discussionz the other day; they'd like any further discussion there. People were derailing lots of threads previously (including this one). Just FYI.
 

eot

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The Mods made a thread for Flat Earf discussionz the other day; they'd like any further discussion there. People were derailing lots of threads previously (including this one). Just FYI.
Alright, I didn't notice. It's fine though I'm not gonna discuss it any further.
 
Fits this thread IMO:


So, a ton of hypnotic regression stories where people are being treated to try and remember lapses of lost time, the people have these very bizarre recollections of impossiblish encounters of owls, like an owl or group of owls just swooping over you for halves of hours with you just standing there, stupefied. Or an owl being somewhere its not supposed to be, just staring at you for hours. The people who are being regressed usually also note how, even in the memory, it feels off, fake, and/or too fantastical. In the alien abduction/conspiracy theory world, the running theory seems to be that it's a false or implanted memory, total recall style, used to wipe out whatever really happened to them.

The weird parts are how many people this occurs in and also when two or more people remember the encounter in the same manner.

Those baby owls are fuckin FREAKY tho lol.
 

Airola

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Fits this thread IMO:



So, a ton of hypnotic regression stories where people are being treated to try and remember lapses of lost time, the people have these very bizarre recollections of impossiblish encounters of owls, like an owl or group of owls just swooping over you for halves of hours with you just standing there, stupefied. Or an owl being somewhere its not supposed to be, just staring at you for hours. The people who are being regressed usually also note how, even in the memory, it feels off, fake, and/or too fantastical. In the alien abduction/conspiracy theory world, the running theory seems to be that it's a false or implanted memory, total recall style, used to wipe out whatever really happened to them.

The weird parts are how many people this occurs in and also when two or more people remember the encounter in the same manner.

Those baby owls are fuckin FREAKY tho lol.

"The owls are not what they seem" was revealed to all of us decades ago.

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Mista

Banned
Debris rotating showing different angles which is normal in life, doesn't make it a damn UFO. Me looking at you from the front isn't the same as looking at you from the back
 
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