SleepDoctor
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PS+ is the defacto XboxGold.
If and when Sony feels the need to take over that area too it just will.
Their IP is so much ahead of MSFT's offer of mediocre games.
Who's talking about ps + or xbl gold????
PS+ is the defacto XboxGold.
If and when Sony feels the need to take over that area too it just will.
Their IP is so much ahead of MSFT's offer of mediocre games.
How many price drops does X need to even compete?"Their (sic) hardware is never anything special"
Too bad the X is more powerful than the Pro.
you can't be serious.Who's talking about ps + or xbl gold????
How many price drops does X need to even compete?
So what? The reason why Microsoft is willing to lose hundreds of Million is that they are wanting to corner the market and have Sub gaming becomes standard, they know that anybody that will try to compete directly will either have a shit product to avoid losses or be bankrupt or not have enough content. Do you think Sony will be able to sustain the massive losses made with making their AAA SP games for PS Now Day 1? IF Subscription gaming becomes the standard way of consuming games do you think Sony's AAA SP games will survive the transition to a subscription gaming service?
The only way I can see SP AAA games like Sony's surviving in Subscription is if the publisher is willing to loose hundreds of Millions.
Doesn't seem like the case. Hellsblade 2 seems like a AAA title and The Initiative is working on AAA content. So I don't think Game Pass will impact anything. AAA is simply being used as a way to get people onto Game Pass.
But I agree, Game Pass and MS using big money to support losses made in GP is and will be hugely disruptive to the industry. The industry has never dealt with this type of economics before. Curious on how Sony and others will react to this.
I didn't say it wasn't, but you replied to the other guy saying being slightly powerful is being special, but it's not.Lol again deflecting the pro is weaker.
If you're going spout some fanboy nonsense, at least stay ot.
I didn't say it wasn't, but you replied to the other guy saying being slightly powerful is being special, but it's not.
I don't even agree with the post you replied to... MSFT can make cool stuff, even some special HW like the Kinect that outclassed Nintendo waggle and PS light dildo, MSFT just went full ham on it, and was forced to kill it.
There is nothing special about PS hardware either but people want the PlayStation games, and that is why PS4 sells without crazy prize cuts.
"Their (sic) hardware is never anything special"
Too bad the X is more powerful than the Pro.
This is idiotic. The Xbox One X is the best piece of hardware on the gaming today and it's their hardware. You wanna focus on who sells the most consoles it's your right but to suggest to should quit manufacturing consoles is a spit in the face of all their customers and believe it or not there are tens of millions on them on console AND other platforms with streaming on its way.
Has been since release dayYeah I dont understand gamepass. Are games like the Outer Worlds available in full to play already? That's pretty good.
This is not even what you two were arguing about.How many price drops does X need to even compete?
Another fucking thread about gamepass? Is this a religion or something? Does it cure cancer? Tell me, what am I missing because clearly it's the greatest shit since sliced bread seeing as this is thread number 1000 about it...
EviLore I am serious is this forum bought out by Microsoft or something? I get the praise and discussion and I was always sceptical of calling people paid shills but holy moly this is really getting fishy.
I never threadwine but damn...
How DARE people like Xbox here. Mods help!
Ain't see nobody crying over the 20 or so death stranding threads. But SonyGaf gonna SonyGaf
There was.
Fans on both sides be like:
Another fucking thread about gamepass? Is this a religion or something? Does it cure cancer? Tell me, what am I missing because clearly it's the greatest shit since sliced bread seeing as this is thread number 1000 about it...
EviLore I am serious is this forum bought out by Microsoft or something? I get the praise and discussion and I was always sceptical of calling people paid shills but holy moly this is really getting fishy.
I never threadwine but damn...
They will have to sell consoles to sell their services.
Sony doesn't need to put their games on a service day and date of release. Sony has a loyal fanbase that will be there as long as they continue making great gamesConsoles to Microsoft are merely touchpoints for users to access Game Pass. That's basically what it is. Hence why there's Lockhart being released. Microsoft gives no shit about holding back next gen, if they are able to get millions of Game Pass subscribers, they will take that route.
Relying on Consoles is a very risky strategy because if Subscription Gaming becomes big and Microsoft is the dominant service, then Sony has pretty much lost any advantage.
Unless Sony can release their games day 1 onto PS Now and also survive the transition to a Subscription Gaming company, I will agree with you. Disney will be losing BILLIONS for 5 years to make Disney+ profitable and thats not even putting their content Day 1 on the service. How will Sony or any other gaming company in reasonable terms be able to sustain that?
In this business model, only those with big money can sustain the service.
I saw fanboys trolling the ds threads. Not crying over how many there were.
Another fucking thread about gamepass? Is this a religion or something? Does it cure cancer? Tell me, what am I missing because clearly it's the greatest shit since sliced bread seeing as this is thread number 1000 about it...
EviLore I am serious is this forum bought out by Microsoft or something? I get the praise and discussion and I was always sceptical of calling people paid shills but holy moly this is really getting fishy.
I never threadwine but damn...
GAF is neutral ground. Any disparities you see in number or nature of threads comes down to user interest.
PlayStation is making more money than they ever have. I'm sure they would adjust if they needed but I don't see subscription gaming as being some huge industry takeoverSo what? The reason why Microsoft is willing to lose hundreds of Million is that they are wanting to corner the market and have Sub gaming becomes standard, they know that anybody that will try to compete directly will either have a shit product to avoid losses or be bankrupt or not have enough content. Do you think Sony will be able to sustain the massive losses made with making their AAA SP games for PS Now Day 1? IF Subscription gaming becomes the standard way of consuming games do you think Sony's AAA SP games will survive the transition to a subscription gaming service?
The only way I can see SP AAA games like Sony's surviving in Subscription is if the publisher is willing to loose hundreds of Millions.
Yep, I already see people on Xbox saying that they've stopped purchasing games, due to having Gamepass. I think it will make it tougher to sell their exclusives at full price eventuallyOnly the seeing its pro's of it but con of it mostly will hit Xbox game sales
"I never threadwine but damn..."
You don't threadwine (sic), Really? You call people shills, run and tell EviLore you don't like too many GamePass threads and GAF must be owned by MS. Thread whining really doesn't get much worse than this. Don't like Game Pass threads, don't read them.
Have you seen how many Star Wars threads there are in OT? Is this forum bought out by Disney etc...
So because there's competition they can't corner a market...do you know how markets work? Or are you just continuing your Microsoft bashing?Selling a dollar for penny only last for so long, most of the large publishers have there own rental or streaming service or have it in development. There simple isn't a real business model except to maybe have another small revenue stream... nobody really needs Microsoft to be the middleman.
How exactly can MS corner the market? Streaming and rental services have existed before ms has done them....do you live in an alternative universe?
There really is no market to corner, and if they were....everyone would have there own service.....duh. Instead of bailing on their storefronts....MS should have executed and competed with Valve.
I meant I never threadwined before you dense knob.
If you dont post in it then it will go away.That's all well and good. I just don't understand why we need a weekly thread about Gamepass.
So because there's competition they can't corner a market...do you know how markets work? Or are you just continuing your Microsoft bashing?
Classy, name-calling & personal insults. Unlike you I won't tag the site owner or go cry to the mods.
GamePass is on PC, and when XCloud launches you won't need anything to get GamePass.
Just report. Some people can't have a discussion without throwing insults. Most of them will just try to get a reaction so they can report you anyway.
The more they get banned, the more civil maybe these discussions can be. Someone was called an idiot the other day just saying pc is another platform iirc. Its pretty sad.
I always said Microsoft should just stick to games and software. The one thing they have been successful at has nothing to do with the xbox itself. Their hardware is never anything special, they never have anything really compelling regarding exclusive games for said hardware, etc. They should just run game pass and publish/develop games for their game pass platform and other systems.
Sega quit hardware and their company only got better. Microsoft is essentially the new Sega in the console scene. They scream and yell about how awesome their hardware is meanwhile all their competition passes them up and they are left with nothing but software.
Nah, I don't like to report people, especially when the insults are directed at me. It makes me feel like a crybaby and no better than the person in question who tagged EL to cry about this thread.
I hear you on that. Just know that these same people are the first to report you when given the chance.
No doubt that's true, it's obvious with them tagging El. And that's why I chose not to be like them.
With the help of MS if course.PS+ is the defacto XboxGold.
If and when Sony feels the need to take over that area too it just will.
Their IP is so much ahead of MSFT's offer of mediocre games.