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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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JLB

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I already replied early, imho day1 is for Halo only + gamepass & 3rd party

What makes you think that Forza Motorsport, a series that never in its history got delayed, and that got an extended development period of time (usually 2 years, now 3) will get delayed? Why a games that was the first to appear on the very first trailer of Series X wont be there on day one? Turn 10 is a damn swiss clock, they just dont miss dates. Not since its inception.
 
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Says the guy that have no ideia what AAA is :messenger_tears_of_joy:

These games I said that are AAA are well know in the industry as being AAA. Even if I don’t know (and I don’t need to know) how much budget the gaming industry says it is AAA.

Spining false claims won’t make you right.... Wrongiswrong.
Again, you have no idea what makes a AAA game other than what you think it is.
I said that State of Decay is in the same league as Days Gone. Same genre, same level of graphics, both use Unreal Engine.
Even IGN think they are in the same league.
Problem is the fanboys like yourself had to jump in and claim one is AAA and the other isn't, all the while you have no idea what makes each one so.
You and your fellow SDF members let your bias get the better of you and you couldn't help but try and prove the Sony first party game is better than the Xbox first party. I guess I should have know my place as an Xbox owner, where we can't in any way claim that two exclusives are on the same level, be it Forza vs GT, or Halo vs Killzone.
And the fact that a game you protest is AAA is only as good as a game you protest is only AA is even more egg on your face.

Don't stress Mods, I'll move one from this one.
 

ethomaz

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Again, you have no idea what makes a AAA game other than what you think it is.
I said that State of Decay is in the same league as Days Gone. Same genre, same level of graphics, both use Unreal Engine.
Even IGN think they are in the same league.
Problem is the fanboys like yourself had to jump in and claim one is AAA and the other isn't, all the while you have no idea what makes each one so.
You and your fellow SDF members let your bias get the better of you and you couldn't help but try and prove the Sony first party game is better than the Xbox first party. I guess I should have know my place as an Xbox owner, where we can't in any way claim that two exclusives are on the same level, be it Forza vs GT, or Halo vs Killzone.
And the fact that a game you protest is AAA is only as good as a game you protest is only AA is even more egg on your face.

Don't stress Mods, I'll move one from this one.
You continue being wrong.

AAA has a definition and I can’t change that... neither you.
AAA means games where the publisher/developer had big budget for development and marketing.

It has nothing to do with a game being better than another or any console war bullshit you are trying to create here.

An indie game (small budget) can be as good as an AAA game (big budget).... the amount of the budget helps to make a quality title but it not define the quality of that title.
 
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Moneal

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Are you for real? Here is the leak I was referring to. It's pretty well known and I assume you would have seen it.
It says the PS5 is 10tflops.
And go onto Twitter and Google and see how many people are talking about the 10tflop mark.
Now I guess you are gonna pony up with that apology?

That one disqualifies itself with the October release and being at E3 claims. Holiday Season is November and December, basically after Halloween. We already know they aren't going to be at E3 this year as well.
 
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James Sawyer Ford

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Yeah that leak is terribly wrong...just look at the pricing for each territory, it makes zero sense based on current exchange rates

also...Sony confirmed no E3...add it to the dumpster fire along with the other leaks
 
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Unless you are a high school or a college student, you should be able to save up enough money to buy both consoles later this year. cut down on avacados. dont upgrade your $1000 phone every two years. stop eating out every day at lunch time. Stop giving chipotle your money 4x a week. hell, cut cable and save up to a $100 a month.

Now buying multiple $60 games a month for both consoles might be tough, but thanks to gamepass you should be able to afford those $1 deals MS keeps offering to all non-subscribers.

if anything, MS buying from is a good thing because you can then play fromsoft games for $10 max. and if you are like me and cancel often, $1 max.

trade in your current gen consoles for $100-200 in credit towards next gen consoles. Buying two consoles is really not that expensive. the real expense comes from wanting to buy new games on day 1.
Perfect post!
 

Dargor

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Again, you have no idea what makes a AAA game other than what you think it is.
I said that State of Decay is in the same league as Days Gone. Same genre, same level of graphics, both use Unreal Engine.
Even IGN think they are in the same league.
Problem is the fanboys like yourself had to jump in and claim one is AAA and the other isn't, all the while you have no idea what makes each one so.
You and your fellow SDF members let your bias get the better of you and you couldn't help but try and prove the Sony first party game is better than the Xbox first party. I guess I should have know my place as an Xbox owner, where we can't in any way claim that two exclusives are on the same level, be it Forza vs GT, or Halo vs Killzone.
And the fact that a game you protest is AAA is only as good as a game you protest is only AA is even more egg on your face.

Don't stress Mods, I'll move one from this one.


Please, tell me you are P.U.I.* right now...

*posting under the influence
 

Mriverz

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Alot of gaming sites dont see sea of thieves as a triple a game either. Idk personally never played it
But MS treated it like one so guess thats what matters?
 
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Sony still owns spiderman

That one disqualifies itself with the October release and being at E3 claims. Holiday Season is November and December, basically after Halloween. We already know they aren't going to be at E3 this year as well.
As I said in another post, the person who leaked this wouldn't also have to know Sonys plans for E3. The leaker could be in the media department putting together the presentation for the reveal. The leaker isnt going to be anyone high up in the company, and most likely isn't kept in the loop with all future plans, and could have just assumed that Sony would go there.
Leakers arnt people of any note generally.
The fact they got the new catch phrase is more than a lucky guess I would think.

Why would it be totally unacceptable for a console to release in October?
PS2 was released in March.
And we might only be talking a week or two before November anyway.
 
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the game was never going to review well with the woke critics in gaming journalism. Too much toxic masculinity about a biker gang in flyover country That doesn’t perfectly align with their ridiculously narrow minded view of the world

you remember that Patrick Klepek review? It’s laughable. I hate how every single game needs to have a political or moral compass attached to it.

Maybe, just maybe, the game had average/poor reviews since the writing is really bad regardless of the content and the game is super unpolished and bland? It's just not good quality in any way or sense.

Not everything is a SJW conspiracy.
 

Imtjnotu

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Are you for real? Here is the leak I was referring to. It's pretty well known and I assume you would have seen it.
It says the PS5 is 10tflops.
And go onto Twitter and Google and see how many people are talking about the 10tflop mark.
Now I guess you are gonna pony up with that apology?

And even reading it you could see the it's time to play slogan came out in 2019

It says sony is going to be at E3

It says it has Ps3 BC.


Stop nit picking your rumors to fit what you want wrong is wrong
 
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James Sawyer Ford

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Maybe, just maybe, the game had average/poor reviews since the writing is really bad regardless of the content and the game is super unpolished and bland? It's just not good quality in any way or sense.

Not everything is a SJW conspiracy.

No, the game is actually solid all the way around. Pretty good story and characters, great world, nice camps, great gunplay, looks gorgeous, lengthy, and lots of side content. I enjoyed it more than TLOU as a GAME.

It just doesn't jive with the reviewer crowd. Biker gang culture is like polar opposite of what they're into...and that's fine, but the actual game is great.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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To be fair, DG and SoD are two different kinds of games. And SoD is also a last gen game too on 360.

DG looks better, but SoD got better reviews.

It's like PUBG (which has got to be one of the worst looking and jankiest shooters I can remember). But it got great reviews and people love playing the game even though in the first year it was same single map.

More to a game than looks.
 

Moneal

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As I said in another post, the person who leaked this wouldn't also have to know Sonys plans for E3. The leaker could be in the media department putting together the presentation for the reveal. The leaker isnt going to be anyone high up in the company, and most likely isn't kept in the loop with all future plans, and could have just assumed that Sony would go there.
Leakers arnt people of any note generally.
The fact they got the new catch phrase is more than a lucky guess I would think.

Why would it be totally unacceptable for a console to release in October?
PS2 was released in March.
And we might only be talking a week or two before November anyway.
Leaks have to build credibility by things in them being confirmed. We know one claim is wrong, E3. Why claim something if you are out of the loop on it? It also points to being out of the loop on more things.

Sure, consoles can release in October, but we know what Holiday XXXX means. It has meant November or December for a long time. October hasn't been a part of that.

Its time to play was in a November 2019 PlayStation advertisement, so its not a revelation.
 

SlimySnake

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the game was never going to review well with the woke critics in gaming journalism. Too much toxic masculinity about a biker gang in flyover country That doesn’t perfectly align with their ridiculously narrow minded view of the world

you remember that Patrick Klepek review? It’s laughable. I hate how every single game needs to have a political or moral compass attached to it.

Yeah its absurd. The gamespot reviewer spent the whole time talking about the story instead of the game and still managed to get half of the things wrong about the story. She actually brought up the ride me like your bike line even after finishing the game which means she must have seen the flashback where it clearly gets set up as a joke about biker girls. The way she misconstrued every plot point was something else.

That video has some of the worst like dislike ratio I've seen on YouTube.

I can't believe Sony didn't make a big stink about the reviews. I guess they don't want to burn bridges for their big titles but i think games like days gone and death stranding need publisher support behind them more than guaranteed hits like Spiderman, tlou and gow.
 

GermanZepp

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Multiplat vs exclusive. Keep going.
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GermanZepp

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the game was never going to review well with the woke critics in gaming journalism. Too much toxic masculinity about a biker gang in flyover country That doesn’t perfectly align with their ridiculously narrow minded view of the world

you remember that Patrick Klepek review? It’s laughable. I hate how every single game needs to have a political or moral compass attached to it.


:messenger_tears_of_joy: in Fallout 3 i allways made the slave with explosive collar to blow up.
 

TLZ

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It’s a shame we don’t have an OP to capture a lot of this info that has been trickling in or some way to easily locate it.
Maybe it's best if we have a new thread with all that info since SonGoku's nowhere to be found :(

But we can also wait a couple weeks for the real deal and just have a new thread then.
 

bitbydeath

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Maybe it's best if we have a new thread with all that info since SonGoku's nowhere to be found :(

But we can also wait a couple weeks for the real deal and just have a new thread then.

Yeah, that’s where I’m at too.
Couple more weeks and OT PS5 time.

Edit: Gonna have to come up with a title.
PS5 [OT] Time for that third job
 
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Even without any leaks, Forza Motorsport 8 is a must at launch. Racing games are IMO one of the easiest way to show what your console can achieve with its power.
They already skipped a release in 2019 to prepare for Next-Gen so I would be very surprised, if they do not release it as a launch title.
Forza 8 won't be ready at launch. If anything we will see another Horizon game before a Forza game. Fine for me since I would rather watch paint dry then play a racing sim. The Horizon games are cool though.
 
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Oddspeak

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It's rather odd that SonGoku just stopped coming here cold turkey after averaging almost 10 posts per day from the creation of his account to his last day of activity.

But I guess a new OT will indeed be made as soon as the reveal event happens anyway.
 
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xool

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Qunlian? Never heard of it, also, whoever wrote that article clearly has no idea of what he/she is talking about, they've got it all mixed up. If Qunlian really provides the SSD, they don't provide the controller because the controller is from Phison. Also, the part that says "This is almost certainly the PCIe 4.0 version", proves that they're not really 100% sure about wether it's 3.0 or 4.0. So yeah Idk, the whole article screams bs to me.

Qunlian is a literal translation/transliteration of the chinese characters for Phison 群联在

News source : https://www.ithome.com/0/468/512.htm

Phison : https://www.phison.com/zh/company/about-us
 

xool

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AAA means games where the publisher/developer had big budget for development and marketing.


This is right - the original usage - which was internal to videogame company management was :
  • A for budget
  • A for marketting
  • A for (expected) sales
(where A means the highest rank)

Of course people can let it mean whatever they want, just like they pronounce .gif however they want.
 
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Mriverz

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Qunlian is a literal translation/transliteration of the chinese characters for Phison 群联在

News source : https://www.ithome.com/0/468/512.htm

Phison : https://www.phison.com/zh/company/about-us
According to reports, the new master PCIe 4.0 SSD will reach a speed of 7GB / s, which is very beneficial for the host. Microsoft has confirmed that the Xbox Series X is equipped with a core configuration based on the AMD Zen2 processor and the next-generation GPU. In addition, it will also be equipped with an "ultrafast" NVMe SSD. It has also announced that it will eliminate game loading time.

Grouplink is leading the way in PCIe 4.0 master control. Its E16 master SSD is the only SSD on the market that supports PCIe 4.0 interface. According to previous reports, the PS5018-E18 master will provide a read / write speed of 7GB / s and a maximum read / write speed of 1000k IOPS. In order to achieve this goal, Qunlian has switched from TSMC's 28nm lithography technology to the latest 12nm manufacturing process, controlling the controller power consumption to a maximum of about 3W, and increasing the speed of each memory channel from 800 MT / s to 1200MT. / s, which greatly increases the speed of the controller. This new controller will also support DDR4 / LPDDR4 cache, and will be able to support TLC and QLC NAND, and support NVMe 1.4 protocol.”

tbh sounds way to good to be true having a ssd like that. Imagine the price even in a wholesale. unless they really charging 600$
 

MilkyJoe

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Has this dropped yet?


Arguably the most important detail in the leak is the price of the PlayStation 5, which is put at £449 in the UK, $499 in the US, €449 in Europe, and ¥54,999 in Japan. Pre-orders will allegedly begin as soon as the reveal event in February is over. The specs of the PlayStation 5 will apparently be ‘almost on par’ with the Xbox Series X, which the leak suggests will be $100 (£77) more expensive than Sony’s console. The PlayStation 5 will also be fully backwards compatible with all existing PlayStation 4 games.


 

Imtjnotu

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Has this dropped yet?


Arguably the most important detail in the leak is the price of the PlayStation 5, which is put at £449 in the UK, $499 in the US, €449 in Europe, and ¥54,999 in Japan. Pre-orders will allegedly begin as soon as the reveal event in February is over. The specs of the PlayStation 5 will apparently be ‘almost on par’ with the Xbox Series X, which the leak suggests will be $100 (£77) more expensive than Sony’s console. The PlayStation 5 will also be fully backwards compatible with all existing PlayStation 4 games.


The same leak says Ps3 BC and Sony will also reveal more at E3 2020
 
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