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Proelite
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FERN
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demigod
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No and no. 40% creators of direct x, and 8TF GCN.
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bitbydeath
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The meltdowns are going to be HUGE if PS5 ends up more powerful.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Fun Fanboy
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Yep. Just like if Xbox ends up more powerful. Klee and the boys. Meltdowns. Can't wait.
chemical boy
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All this information contradicts the information of Klee, Tommy and Osiris. If Sony does not give data it is clear that Heisenberg is right.
HeisenbergFX4
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CasperDarling
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That shit was said like 7 plus years ago. Let it die already. Penello knows more then any fake insider here and at Reee combined about this stuff.
Agnostic2020
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True if Sony doesn’t give data in the next showing of ps5 (ps meeting or sop)then we are around 9.5 tf
fuckkk. Just hit double digits Sony for the love of god lol
Agnostic2020
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The other bigly source(not the SIE one ) has said :I am not trying to be right just sharing what I hear.
From my guesses
11.3 vs 12.1 in favour of Xbox ?
Gamernyc78
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Why bcus thts your narrative? As if Sony would go for 9, minimum will be 10 watch and see.
HeisenbergFX4
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Not exact numbers but close enough and yes.
Gamernyc78
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Right about what? He Gave us two sources with diff numbers one was 9 and other double digits lol shit either one will be right. Thts playing it safe and not leaking anything.
Agnostic2020
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Ps5 is above 11 with that source ?
DaGwaphics
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Keep in mind that Stadia isn't dead yet (despite what is posted here) and their specs are easily upgraded at any time. Let's say Sony has the power advantage and they are bragging, bragging, bragging. What happens when Stadia waits a bit to give Sony time to make those numbers stick in the minds of consumers and then doubles those numbers on their platform? Not the best look for Sony, tbh. Both companies could stay silent on hard numbers, in which case someone with the lead would also be silent.
demigod
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If he knew more he wouldn't have said that bs 8TF GCN, but we know which camp he's rooting for.
Gamernyc78
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Easily upgraded u say bcus of remote racks and all that right? Not how it works and even with their 10 plus flops, performance and graphics still isn't living up to the numbers tht console shouod be outputting because of course it's a bs streaming machine.
Stadia ppl correctly predicted isn't a contender and it's showing and it won't be now or in the near future.
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Lunatic_Gamer
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Xbox Series X launch price rumored at $499, again
At $499, the Xbox Series X would offer beast level performance for console gamers.
www.tweaktown.com
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Not exactly playing it safe you make it sound like I am trying to compete with Jason Screier or something.
I am just sharing things I have heard
Okami Haundo
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Is Stadia RNDA or GCN flops?
Lort
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With Stadia you need to upgrade your home internet and move closer to a datacenter to upgrade.
nikolino840
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Stadia power Is useless becouse Is locked behind internet speed
(i can't use the xcloud using Xbox as server, uplaod too low and NAT not open,i hope in the normal xcloud version)
If someone have a low connection dosen't matter if the PC of stadia Is a 12tf or 20tf
I again, agree with that. TF are a marketable number. When you know you are the most powerful, you show the number like when Cerny did almost 7 years ago. No numbers = underpower machine, period. What worse would be for Sony to sell that machine at 499$...
DaGwaphics
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Marketing isn't all about reality is it? Blast processing says hi. Stadia can easily have the raw spec advantage and likely will have that (they've already talked about building out with new technologies as they become available). If MS or Sony plays the numbers game and then those numbers don't sound impressive next to high-end PC or Stadia, well that might not be the best approach. That's not to say that MS or Sony won't take that risk, but I'm sure the potential ramifications are being considered.
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Lort
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Based on real world performance GCN.
Gamernyc78
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Boy how ppl love to give authority figures the benefit of the doubt even when they've lied and been wrong so much. Some of these dudes act like Penello is sitting in Sony Board meetings
Penello doesn't know shit and has shown us tht time and time again through the years.
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Racer!
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Okami Haundo
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Much appreciated! So that means that a 9-10Tf RDNA PS5/Series X would have better GPU performance than Stadia?
If so, I'm really starting to believe that we are looking at 10<Tf RDNA machines. Especially when we can't really get confirmation of where the rumors about Tf are coming from. These are devkits, sure... But that doesn't mean the info is coming from developers.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
We'll easily hit 1,000 pages before Sony says a WORD! CRAZY TIMES.
ethomaz
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GCN... it is uses a Vega card.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
HeisenbergFX4
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Need to take a break, I will be back after we get some official info.
NathanDiego
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Why is he right if Sony does not give data? MS didn't,they didn't said "Series X is 12TF RDNA",they where vague as could have been.
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CasperDarling
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maybe so...but he still has had a career actually working on this stuff unlike every Fake Insider here and at Ree. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt over some forum warriors trying to get attention that make up fake rumors to get said attention.Boy how ppl love to give authority figures the benegit of the doubt even when they've lied and been wrong do much. Some of these dudes act like Penello is sitting in Sony Board meetings
Something worth noting, sony sells playstation in alot more countries than MS. Alot of countries are not as rich as the UK,US etc that's why the 399 price point was so popular because it was affordable for the masses. Playstation is a world wide brand, they have to meet the expectations of the consumer on a much larger scale compared to MS because they sell consoles in quite alot less markets. It's fair enough wanting a big beefy console but that comes at a risk of not being affordable for people in alot of markets. They have to hit that pricing sweet spot.
Agnostic2020
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You know people are thirsty for info and they would act antsy when faced with what they don’t like to hear . So please don’t take it personal and thanks for all the contributions and your afternoon thoughts
demigod
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I'm giving you 30mins for your break.
geordiemp
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If stadia is streaming a million billion TF I still would not give a crap, streaming is laggy and unresponsive unless I want to play chess I am not interested.
To me Stadia has - 10 TF (that is a MINUS), as does all streaming pile of crap unless I move to a data centre. Imagine GOW or Ninja gaiden or any COD via streaming and the lag for online, makes me puke in my mouth.
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chilichote
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Many months ago someone said, that we are not hearing much about TFlops. Don't know who, i read in this thread.
It makes sense and i believe, both machines are around 9 TF because price and powerconsume are moderat at this TF-range and their powerful enough for breathtaking graphics (i hope^^).
It makes sense and i believe, both machines are around 9 TF because price and powerconsume are moderat at this TF-range and their powerful enough for breathtaking graphics (i hope^^).
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sonomamashine
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At first i was next gen = 5700xt +/-10%, but now with Ampere presumed leaks next gen gonna kinda be absolete if not 2080 perf.
The thirst.
Lone Wolf
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That’s within Department of Labor standards. He better be back on time though.
BlacknGold_Blood
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Thing is though, we know that XSX has a 56 CU die. According to one of the techies on the other site, to get to 9.2 TF’s, it would have to be clocked at around 1,255 MHz, which would mean it’s one of the slowest 7nm GPU’s on the market, even slower than one for a laptop.
DaGwaphics
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I'm not a streaming fan myself either, but I do think it is the inevitable future. How long it takes to get there is up for debate. I will say the tech has improved with each iteration.
I'll stick to console/PC for as long as possible. LOL
Lone Wolf
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Google can’t just upgrade at anytime. They have a proprietary setup. And anything they do will have a cost, just as a console would.
chilichote
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We assume but don't know for sure.
Chromata
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