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[IkarugaDE]

But everyone had Nyko/MadCatz cheapo charging cradles (especially for Wii) far before Xbox Elite 2 or PS5. It’s just not exciting for EITHER Xbox or PS, it’s old-news 3rd party peripheral stuff.

Didn't said you are wrong, but sometimes it's it's a matter of communication and how to get things across. You can't always assume that everyone reads and understands it as you thought it would.

 

[demigod]

Let me get this straight:

-You own an Xbox because you cannot stand the noise of your shitty PS4

-Guesses can sometimes be right, especially as they gradually change and are adjusted over time to fit the current narrative of the week.

-The Github leak is NOW real to you, but the context stayed the same for Xbox but magically must have changed for PS5

-You’ll buy an XSX if the difference is YUUUUUUUUUGE. In other words it will be “good enough” no matter what and not huge since you refused to give a number.

-You live in Europe where PS is more popular. Ok? What’s your point? That’s like saying that Xbox is inferior regardless of specs just because you live Japan. These consoles are region free, but you’re saying that no matter what you’re going to choose PS because your country digs it. That’s fine, but once again I didn’t think you’d stray from your Japanese console lovin’ nationalistic views.

-The truth is that probably nobody gives a rats arse about wherever you’re from in Europe except your own people. Sony doesn’t literally actually love you, I’m sorry. Brands are brands.

-You “PREFER SONY EXCLUSIVES BECAUSE THEY’RE BETTER!11122”!
Better? your opinion is better? Solid argument, kudos.


Do you have one single valid argument? Troll on, fanboy. This is heavily a Pro-PS forum so I’m not surprised, but your strength in forum fanboy numbers can’t change facts or reality no matter what.

I’ll finish you off with your own words and advice:
“Now that you got yourself a nice dose of reality, maybe you can stop going full fanboy and start being less annoying. Have a good day.”

PS4 is shitty now? Please tell us more.

 

[Neo Blaster]

It's all making sense now. We can add that Bombcast March 3rd comment as well.

Damn, another week without news, I can't stand it anymore!!
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I can hardly wait for next week!

 

[Insane Metal]

Something is definitely happening soon.




















I'm leaving for work, c ya guys later.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Bruh

Nvidia is out for blood. AMD's blood.

Can companies bleed? We're about to find out.

 

[Mod of War]

Mod of War , when do you think you will be able to share the next-gen screenshot you received from OB? asking for a friend

I will share them on February 30th.

 

[Disco_]

The issue with this is the assumption that RT will be handled by the CUs on the GPU of the series X. If they are implementing hardware acceleration for RT then it would have cores specifically handling this that are not part of the GPU compute performance. Correct me if I'm wrong

Actually this implementation is better than having separate cores on the die. This saves space on the die while also taking load off the GPU so the TFLOPs do not account for the RT solution. The 12 tflops do not account for the RT. Correct me if I'm wrong

The gpu(CUs) handle RT. There is no offloading to some other hardware.

of course it's not 100% official. i did say 90% so far xbox x series has matched the leak perfectly.

Which parts matched?
I'm going to go on a limb and say you haven't actually seen the leak, and just going off what you've heard from the people you follow. Github showed 3584 opc/clk/simd32 and from that we arrived at 56cu. There were no arden clocks in github and there was no 12tf number. So again, which parts matched?

www.techradar.com/amp/news/ps5-controller-could-get-one-of-the-best-features-of-modern-smartphones

That's unfortunate.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Here we are guys, Jason Schreier saying Xbox is shit and that PS5 will definitely be better because PS4 was more famous this gen.

 

[DJ12]

I'm talking about the secret reveal event that was supposed to happen the next day that somehow no one knew about LMAO.

OK, if the words and "calculations" are in the reveal are you prepared to apologise to the man? Or you just a full on console warrior that is going to disappear if your favourite box doesn't win the power top trumps?

 

[it_wasn't_me]

I can’t change facts or reality. You guys live under a huge cloud of PS protection, everyone knows that Xbox fans are “less than” & get banned here and PS fans can troll forever with a free pass under a different set of standards. That’s just GAF. If I was mostly pro Sony most of my objectors would be kissing up to me.
It’s better than ResetEra, but it’s only a Eutopia for team Playstation. This is a Playstation forum first without doubt, at least as far as moderation goes.

I hope everyone enjoys the launches, Myself and Xbox fans have to walk a very different fine line than the PS boys here. That’s just reality.

The sad thing is that I’ll be happy if PS5 has the most TF. I doubt it, but still it goes to show...

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[ThisIsMyDog]

Something is definitely happening soon.

Im in *soon* team for two months now.

 

[JLB]

I remember Call of Duty Ghosts being one of the first 720p v 1080p games. Fifa were all 1080p, I think, and Pro Evo was... Less?

yeah, i think that was the case indeed

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Im in *soon* team for two months now.

I mean it will be soon sooner or later.

 

[R600]

Putting aside Github leak (which was spot on for XSX, Renoir and M100), MS seems to be flexing muscles as far as power goes ever since December.

They announced XSX right infront of Mark Cerny on VGAs. The entire message since then has been "power power power".

They then showed massive die shot right before Sony's CES press conference, and just when you thought Sony will have PS meeting by the end of February, they post blog on XSX specs confirming 12TF of RDNA2.

They gone so far to put dictionary definition for TF on their official twitter.

To me, putting power and TFs in spotlight before your competitor announces its console + before pre orders start only means :

A) they are pretty sure they have higher TF number
B) they are idiots and they can land flat on their face before gen even starts.

Therefore, going by MS message and Sony's silence, I am pretty sure AMDs deleted internal repo containing tests for XSX and PS5 are indeed correct (who would have thought it really?).

 

[prinz_valium]

No let's put it at 8tf 6 if you want to be real edgy and cool.

Retail Ps5 will be between 8.3 and 8.7 TF

That's 2x Ps4 Pro

36CU at 1800MHz is 8.3TF
That's a higher frequency than Xbox Series X will use.

 

[Classicrockfan]

soon so many times and yet..

 

[BruceWayneIII]

Rockstar is teasing...
Kojima production is teasing...
Godfall devs "really really soon"

Something is going to happen early March

State of Play next week - PS4 games

 

[Burrito Bandito]

Putting aside Github leak (which was spot on for XSX, Renoir and M100), MS seems to be flexing muscles as far as power goes ever since December.

They announced XSX right infront of Mark Cerny on VGAs. The entire message since then has been "power power power".

They then showed massive die shot right before Sony's CES press conference, and just when you thought Sony will have PS meeting by the end of February, they post blog on XSX specs confirming 12TF of RDNA2.

They gone so far to put dictionary definition for TF on their official twitter.

To me, putting power and TFs in spotlight before your competitor announces its console + before pre orders start only means :

A) they are pretty sure they have higher TF number
B) they are idiots and they can land flat on their face before gen even starts.

Therefore, going by MS message and Sony's silence, I am pretty sure AMDs deleted internal repo containing tests for XSX and PS5 are indeed correct (who would have thought it really?).

but the insiders have all been saying that neither company will focus on TF this time around. so clearly you are hallucinating

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

Retail Ps5 will be between 8.3 and 8.7 TF

That's 2x Ps4 Pro

36CU at 1800MHz is 8.3TF
That's a higher frequency than Xbox Series X will use.

Come on now, everyone knows it will have dual Super FX chips running at 21 MHz each...

 

[Akuji]

I will share them on February 30th.

uhh confirmation that those pics were indead sceenshots

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

uhh confirmation that those pics were indead sceenshots

From this point Feb 30th exists.

 

[hemo memo]

Im in *soon* team for two months now.

The word “soon” lost it’s meaning honestly.

 

[Disco_]

The Xbox Elite 2 already has wireless charging. Charging docks are nothing new or game changing. Maybe for PS4?

It isn't.
Docks are pretty old tech, and they aren't wireless. There's metal contacts on the controller and the dock that touch to transmit jooce.

I’m pessimistic about it, the Github is the only FACTUAL numbers that we know so far. It was right about XSX. The rest is hearsay.

Which parts?

But everyone had Nyko/MadCatz cheapo charging cradles (especially for Wii) far before Xbox Elite 2 or PS5. It’s just not exciting for EITHER Xbox or PS, it’s old-news 3rd party peripheral stuff. I’m still happier with craxy cheap & long lasting batteries that I can swap for a full charge anytime, so nobody wins except eco folks.

That's not wireless charging and that's why wireless charging for consoles is a waste of $$. Use it for a better wifi antenna or an extra 100g in the heatsink.

Here we are guys, Jason Schreier saying Xbox is shit and that PS5 will definitely be better because PS4 was more famous this gen.

He's such a sony fanboy he doesn't even know they've done the same thing years ago. boo this man boo

 

[Neo Blaster]

I will share them on February 30th.

So, what you're saying is that insiders were right, there is new info on February...

 

[Gamernyc78]

Retail Ps5 will be between 8.3 and 8.7 TF

That's 2x Ps4 Pro

36CU at 1800MHz is 8.3TF
That's a higher frequency than Xbox Series X will use.

No it'll be 6.5 your being too kind. I'm bookmarking you I have a long list of you guys

 

[Mendou]

I heard that there are 2 consoles per company. The mid-gen refreshes are going to be introduced at release so that these consoles can run the entire 7yr cycle.

Also no dates on when the top models will come out for PS5.

My guess is that they are going to release both models at the same time.

From what I am told, the XSX = PS5 Pro > PS5 > Lockheart

Sony tipped to launch PS5 and PS5 Pro 'at same time next year' in bid to kill Microsoft's secret Xbox 2

SONY is launching not one but two new PlayStations next year, according to reports. As well as the heavily rumoured PS5, the Japanese tech titan will apparently launch a bulkier, more powerful PS5 …

www.thesun.co.uk

Writing for IGN, journalist Zenj Nishikawa reports that Sony is firing with both barrels when it comes to next year's PlayStation launch.

Nishikawa was reportedly told at developer conference CEDEC that "Sony executives are launching two PlayStation models that are different in their performance."

PlayStation did not respond to a request for comment.

We've no way of verifying whether the claims are true, so take them with a pinch of salt.

There absolutely is no any plans for PS5 Pro currently. 3 different PS5 D-Kits with the last one on the way.

Looking back at all this in regards to the PS5 Pro rumors, VFX could have heard that a PS5 Pro was in the works but wasn't given an exact release date for it, possibly making him assume that it may be released at the same time as the base PS5. Tommy Fisher denies that a PS5 Pro is coming at release, yet journalist Zenj Nishikawa from IGN repeats what VFX is saying.

It'll be interesting to hear more about this in the future.

 

[R600]

Which parts?

I'd say : VRS, RT, 320bit bus (XSX E3 video), 56CU (Phil posting ~400mm² die on twitter).

So I think Github leak fits pretty damn good. It also fits with PS5 benchmarks such as Flute from July, or Gonzalo FS ~20k leak, but not many people talk about it.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Putting aside Github leak (which was spot on for XSX, Renoir and M100), MS seems to be flexing muscles as far as power goes ever since December.

They announced XSX right infront of Mark Cerny on VGAs. The entire message since then has been "power power power".

They then showed massive die shot right before Sony's CES press conference, and just when you thought Sony will have PS meeting by the end of February, they post blog on XSX specs confirming 12TF of RDNA2.

They gone so far to put dictionary definition for TF on their official twitter.

To me, putting power and TFs in spotlight before your competitor announces its console + before pre orders start only means :

A) they are pretty sure they have higher TF number
B) they are idiots and they can land flat on their face before gen even starts.

Therefore, going by MS message and Sony's silence, I am pretty sure AMDs deleted internal repo containing tests for XSX and PS5 are indeed correct (who would have thought it really?).

Pretty much says what need be said. MS and Sony are more in-the-know on each other's systems than we could ever hope to be, and the messaging from MS so far (and Sony's for that matter) can only really imply one thing.

My question now is how much of a gulf is there. If it's 1TF or less, then they are virtually identical in output and that'd be less than a 10% differential. That's part of the reason I've been speculating 11.04 as PS5's high end, but even that hinges on some other evidence surfacing. OTOH say that other evidence does surface but due to thermal concerns hits lower clocks, something like 10.4 would still be very powerful (and beat the pants off Stadia), but obviously a more notable gulf between 10.4 and 12.

If things hold as they are, we're potentially looking at a pretty large gulf between the two (, but people should keep in mind that even in such a case you're still looking at a PS5 that outclasses Stadia, could potentially come in at $399 or $450, and could have RT somewhat better than XSX (if they go with PowerVR implementation which is possibly more efficient) and maybe the faster SSD. Tho tbf, those last two are based on rumors and, like those leaks, are missing their own context or going off older specifications.

No matter what happens in terms of specs I hope people can keep their tempers cool and heads on straight. But what am I kidding, it's gonna be a circus of epic proportions.

Retail Ps5 will be between 8.3 and 8.7 TF

That's 2x Ps4 Pro

36CU at 1800MHz is 8.3TF
That's a higher frequency than Xbox Series X will use.

I think that'd be bad. IF they had to downclock, better to turn on the full chip and set it to 1.7.

But that's an absolute worst-case and also would mean no upcoming Oberon steppings or revision pops up within the next two months showing a fuller picture of the chip and more CUs. Which I think is still very likely to happen, tho admittedly I'm being very hopeful on that one moreso for the mental health of people who are going to lose their shit if a worst-case scenario actually ends up happening.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

No it'll be 6.5 your being too kind. I'm bookmarking you I have a long list of you guys

Receipts, you'll be able to hopefully shame someone on the internet one day. Geez

 

[Gudji]

Bruh

Next gen consoles will look like toys when new nvidia cards release. But whatever since one gpu alone is almost the price of new console.

 

[DaGwaphics]

A) they are pretty sure they have higher TF number
B) they are idiots and they can land flat on their face before gen even starts.

Since MS has shown the ability to execute both A & B with precision, anything could happen.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Next gen consoles will look like toys when new nvidia cards release. But whatever since one gpu alone is almost the price of new console.

Depends which, high end are much more than a new console generally.

 

[WhispersintheWind]

No it'll be 6.5 your being too kind. I'm bookmarking you I have a long list of you guys

Your Both wrong! PS5 doesn’t use TFlops. It’s GPU is Powered By Quantum’s Crystals that project Life Like 3D Holograms in your living room.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Receipts, you'll be able to hopefully shame someone on the internet one day. Geez

I Def will, few I'm looking at tht talk nothing but fanboy nonsense

 

[Fatal Enigma]

I Def will, few I'm looking at tht talk nothing but fanboy nonsense

fanboy nonsense calls for fanboy nonsense. Yep

 

[Burrito Bandito]

What's with xbox fans and pushing 9.2 so hard? You guys realize how dumb you will look once they reveal it right? We won't forget you, just like we never forget about MisterXmedia.

lol this is the most ludicrous comment in this entire thread.

“we wont forget you” sounds like a borderline threat of some sort. Im afraid you have taken this WAY too seriously.

And Im going to bookmark this comment because if you are wrong you will look even more absurd and that will be enjoyable to me.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Here we are guys, Jason Schreier saying Xbox is shit and that PS5 will definitely be better because PS4 was more famous this gen.

Errr.. they had this for PS3/4

Official PlayStation™Store US

Whether Sony first party games will support it is another question.. but there are lots of sources saying Sony has a Xbox One like BC program where there will be upgrades to games.. so I'd expect Sony to be showing that off with their first party.

 

[DrDamn]

Mate we go pound for pound with the Irish or in this case pint for pint

Yeah but you are drinking pints of beer and they are drinking pints of whiskey

 

[it_wasn't_me]

But nevertheless, don't drop the axe.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Errr.. they had this for PS3/4

Official PlayStation™Store US

Whether Sony first party games will support it is another question.. but there are lots of sources saying Sony has a Xbox One like BC program where there will be upgrades to games.. so I'd expect Sony to be showing that off with their first party.

It is probably confirmed for both since, as I stated in another post, after Pro and X having to pay for that is nonsense ANYWAY, but we are just not sure about PS5. Even if so (again, it's very likely) one that wants to push PS would have said "Xbox let you do this, nothing for PS5 yet but for sure it will be the same".

 

[JAMMA]

PS4 is shitty now? Please tell us more.

The Pro is loud and underpowered with terrible flimsy “blade buttons” and lightweight junky controllers that have horrendous battery life.

Other than being bad,... it’s ok.

Seriously though, the X is better than the Pro, we’re not comparing all generations. The controller is a different issue but some people like the DS4 controller, bless their poor little hearts.

 

[saintjules]

Sony tipped to launch PS5 and PS5 Pro 'at same time next year' in bid to kill Microsoft's secret Xbox 2

SONY is launching not one but two new PlayStations next year, according to reports. As well as the heavily rumoured PS5, the Japanese tech titan will apparently launch a bulkier, more powerful PS5 …

www.thesun.co.uk

Looking back at all this in regards to the PS5 Pro rumors, VFX could have heard that a PS5 Pro was in the works but wasn't given an exact release date for it, possibly making him assume that it may be released at the same time as the base PS5. Tommy Fisher denies that a PS5 Pro is coming at release, yet journalist Zenj Nishikawa from IGN repeats what VFX is saying.

It'll be interesting to hear more about this in the future.

Been talking about this for a while. Not ruling it out since Zenji Nishikawa also heard about both coming out at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

What's with xbox fans and pushing 9.2 so hard? You guys realize how dumb you will look once they reveal it right? We won't forget you, just like we never forget about MisterXmedia.

And what happens to you and others if it is 9.2. Let's just pretend that happens. What happens to you?

 

[ethomaz]

Here we are guys, Jason Schreier saying Xbox is shit and that PS5 will definitely be better because PS4 was more famous this gen.

I though somebody said he was a Sony fan lol
Time move fast

 

[JAMMA]

But nevertheless, don't drop the axe.

Desperate for a ban? Maybe I’ll get promoted to mod. Klee and Tommy Fisher might have predicted it?

 

[demigod]

lol this is the most ludicrous comment in this entire thread.

“we wont forget you” sounds like a borderline threat of some sort. Im afraid you have taken this WAY too seriously.

And Im going to bookmark this comment because if you are wrong you will look even more absurd and that will be enjoyable to me.

What threat? Yeah I'm going to physically punch you thru the monitor. You're calling me out for not forgetting people and then you do the same bookmarking it. But yeah feel free to come back. I've already pegged you as one of those 9.2ers.

And what happens to you and others if it is 9.2. Let's just pretend that happens. What happens to you?

Whatever you want babe.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Errr.. they had this for PS3/4

Official PlayStation™Store US

Whether Sony first party games will support it is another question.. but there are lots of sources saying Sony has a Xbox One like BC program where there will be upgrades to games.. so I'd expect Sony to be showing that off with their first party.

that’s not what it is.

 

[Gamernyc78]

fanboy nonsense calls for fanboy nonsense. Yep

Of course Mister judge and juror I'm glad you have taken up tht occupation. I've been watching you too

Enjoy your day. Have a great day at the fun house

 

[Zero909]

 

[Gamernyc78]

Errr.. they had this for PS3/4

Official PlayStation™Store US

Whether Sony first party games will support it is another question.. but there are lots of sources saying Sony has a Xbox One like BC program where there will be upgrades to games.. so I'd expect Sony to be showing that off with their first party.

It's seems Ppl forget then Xbox comes and does same shit and it's

I remember buying ps all stars on my Vita and also having it on my ps3 with one purchase