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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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StreetsofBeige

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You never know. Maybe this 7tf chip is right. But similar to Xbox (if Lockhart is true) it'll be a two pronged approach.

SeX 12 tf
Lockhart (rumoured anywhere from 4-6 tf, but I think 4 tf is still the main guess)

PS5 Pro 12 tf
PS5 OG 7 tf
 

Voidout

Member
Guys please does anyone know anything about WHEN Sony will talk more about the PS5? Someone has to know, surely the date is not a greater secret than console info?
 
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Perrott

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Hmm...If the SH rumors are true, does anyone think one of those games might be shown or teased in some way during the PS5 reveal? At least rumors are picking up, somewhat.
Japan Studio's SH soft-reboot it's not ready to be shown, and in the case of Kojima's Silent Hills revival, not even greenlighted. Plus, Sony has more than enough first-party content ready to show at the PS5 reveal that would be available during the launch window, so there's no need to show 2022 games just yet.
 
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Nadojay

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How did GitHub reach even lower numbers for PS5? Like 4 to 7/8 TFLOP/S low? What’s the theory on that? What gives?
The reasoning (I'll preface by saying I in no way believe this, I'm still in the 54cu camp)
So the reasoning is that because github showed 9.2 at 2.0 GHz, that this clocking was no where near what a console could do due to heat, thus it must actually be lower, there is certain people still pushing this agenda.
 
Any thoughts on the rumoured Bloodborne sequel being a launch title for PS5? There was some buzz about it a way back but it seems to have gone quiet.

Assuming the Demons Souls remake/remaster is a launch title, I'm guessing Sony wouldn't release BB2 alongside it...
 

Panajev2001a

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I'd prefer PlayStation shed a few teraflops for the sake of a better quality SSD and more powerful CPU.

Teraflops only gives you better visual fidelity, but doesn't necessarily push the boundaries of game design, level design, AI systems, etc.
It depends, GPU’s can be used for general computation too so while I welcome better CPU and SSD, a more balanced system, there are lots of uses for extra GPU FLOPS as they say. Shedding one or more TFLOPS would be quite a big drop and I am not sure it would buy them as much as we think.
 
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It depends, GPU’s can be used for general computation too so while I welcome better CPU and SSD, a more balanced system, there are lots of uses for extra GPU FLOPS as they say. Shedding one or more TFLOPS would be quite a big drop and I am not sure it would buy them as much as we think.
The teraflops game started this gen and I believe last gen, it was more about CPU, correct?

Don't get me wrong, teraflops are important, but not the most important factor when it comes to making a genuinely great game.

Crysis is a good example of a game that defined a generation of graphics but wasn't necessarily a great game itself.
 
So to summarize this week, we got stealth drop for Last of Us HBO series announcement and the crazy looking Ghost of Tsushima story/release date reveal trailer. Then yesterday Kotaku ran a post about crunch culture in ND and quoted a tweet by Jonathan Cooper(former ND senior animator) who said ND is no longer the best in the business and thus he'd left the studio to pursue something else. I doubt we are getting PS5 related until June!
 

Bo_Hazem

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Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem I forgot to mention UHDTV upscaling processors, I am sure next gen is going to be powerful enough to clean the image quality of old games, but how can the upscaling processors of UHDTVs help with image quality? Check this out:




It was only a problem I think during 2013-2014? Or before? My older 2015 LG 4K 55" LCD upscales my PS4 games well, much sharper than 1080p TV's, my current 2016 Sony XD70 55" does that perfectly as well. But newer TV's might not only upscale, but also could have machine learning assist through consoles or maybe in their own processor? Not sure.

Overall, upscaling was problematic only with earlier 4K models. That game is 720p and see how good it's been upscaled. With next gen you should have native 4K or 1800p as the baseline, which is much higher than that.

But WTF with that butt close up at the beginning :messenger_tears_of_joy: One thing I hate about Japanese games that they are too sexist which destroys immersion to me, unlike The Witcher 3 or even GTA where it's implemented in a more "sensible" way:messenger_winking_tongue:
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Like I've said before, I'd love to play through the classic, "Night of the Living Dead" at 1080P resolution at 30FPS locked with absolutely photorealistic graphics. To make this dream come true, I don't need a massive leap in CPU performance or a SSD. All I need is a system with a true generational leap in TF.

You can do 4K@60fps photorealistic, and in worst scenario 1440p@60fps, so don't worry about that, it's already been done by Quixel if you checked youtube and they mentioned that games being developed with photorealistic assets. Death Stranding was the first game to have Photorealistic assets and it was running on PS4/PS4 Pro, Quixel used 1080ti which is weaker than next gen for 4K photorealism with full physics as well: (No Raytracing though)



Don't worry. If you wanna boost that then go for Big Navi and next Nvidia.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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@GlassAwful I’ve spent a long time doing something that I enjoy, while also working other projects with other people that actually have released. I fail to see the connection? That’s like saying I can’t complete a jigsaw at home, because I professionally print them for others.

The two are not connected and you are reaching. Just for the record, my actual job right now is a teacher of special needs children and the vulnerable. However that doesn’t change the fact that over the years I have contributed to many different retail and indie titles.

(Also, just for the record, it’s not a multiplayer mod for quake 2. If you dig a little deeper you would see it’s an engine rewrite from the ground up, with advanced lighting, physics and audio, and shares more in common with later id tech, technology wise.)

@TheThreadsThatBindUs no I did not say lockhart has to run 4k.Lockhart has to run 1080p content hypothetically. The pro did not. If you allowed the Pro to run games at 1080p using its full grunt, that would be a fair comparison.

@Gamernyc78 the reason I’m stepping away for a while is simple, and during the night, I actually had that reason confirmed even more. While things were getting tougher than I would like last night, in the night I’ve had actual threats sent to me, people with no life, no clue and under some illusion that plastic boxes are life or death. I mean... that’s just sad, man. I’m still going to be posting on the forum, even here every so often, but I’m taking a step back. I stand by what I’ve said, and as I said to you all before, if it turns out bad info, i won’t be running off. I’m still here. You need to take a step back and see the bigger picture my friend, because when you get messages like I got last night that even include my daughter (twitter) then that’s a whoooooole different thing. But I’m still here, not running away like a bitch as you put in, which btw, is one of the reasons I’m no longer participating because people like you drive me mad.

Just be good to each other, believe what you want, but talk common sense with this stuff. I’ll pop back up every so often.

You're stepping away because of Atlético Madrid :messenger_winking_tongue:
 
It was only a problem I think during 2013-2014? Or before? My older 2015 LG 4K 55" LCD upscales my PS4 games well, much sharper than 1080p TV's, my current 2016 Sony XD70 55" does that perfectly as well. But newer TV's might not only upscale, but also could have machine learning assist through consoles or maybe in their own processor? Not sure.

Overall, upscaling was problematic only with earlier 4K models. That game is 720p and see how good it's been upscaled. With next gen you should have native 4K or 1800p as the baseline, which is much higher than that.

But WTF with that butt close up at the beginning :messenger_tears_of_joy: One thing I hate with Japanese games that they are too sexist which destroys immersion to me, unlike The Witcher 3 or even GTA where it's implemented in a more "sensible" way:messenger_winking_tongue:

What backlight level do you use? On Samsung's I feel backlight ruins even well upscaled games.
 

Bo_Hazem

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What backlight level do you use? On Samsung's I feel backlight ruins even well upscaled games.

With my LG local dimming was destroying the image, with Sony XD70 it doesn't have that but you as well can't expect near perfect blacks in a dark room but WAY better without local dimming and you will not miss small particles because of the wacky local dimming shit.

I'm slightly worried with the next TV and I hope I can shut down local dimming if it's not working properly, like with TCL's they are shit compared to Samsung in that matter. Newer TCL's need to be checked with reviews to know how it's working and the possibility of shutting it down. Used to have black level adjustment but with updates it disappeared, used to put it at 90%. I can say that picture quality and color accuracy difference is gigantic between the two, but those are old TV's.
 

Zero707

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With my LG local dimming was destroying the image, with Sony XD70 it doesn't have that but you as well can't expect near perfect blacks in a dark room but WAY better without local dimming and you will not miss small particles because of the wacky local dimming shit.

I'm slightly worried with the next TV and I hope I can shut down local dimming if it's not working properly, like with TCL's they are shit compared to Samsung in that matter. Newer TCL's need to be checked with reviews to know how it's working and the possibility of shutting it down. Used to have black level adjustment but with updates it disappeared, used to put it at 90%. I can say that picture quality and color accuracy difference is gigantic between the two, but those are old TV's.
BTW Will Microled TVs become affordable 4 years from now ?
 

Bo_Hazem

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BTW Will Microled TVs become affordable 4 years from now ?

That's something I can't say, I would say expect at least $3000 for 55", but microLED TV's are the perfect TV's. In the meanwhile you better not spend big, that's why I'm going with 65" Sony XH90 or even 75" then when microLED comes I go for like 55-65" and throw that massive one in the living room, hoping TV channels will man-up and put more 4K channels and some 8K ones by 2023-2024.
 

OrionNebula

Member
I can rename you to Thread Ban if you keep this goofy shit up.

Yeah but don’t we all need a Fun Fanboy around, though?


Also, but unrelated, you guys here are making ‘’the news‘’ : N4G

If posted before : sorry, I don’t have time to look through 1300+ pages. Just ignore and move on with your life
 

husomc

Member
I still believe it's being exaggerated a lot. I hope I'm right.
It's this mentality that has gotten the Covid situation where we are today. If from the onset of this thing everyone took it serious and took the necessary precautions, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Not trying to pile on you or anything just blowing off steam
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Zero707 Zero707 As I have part-time contracts with Oman TV, they told me that they are 4K-ready since like 2013-2014, but it's expensive to have a 4K channel overall (satelites and so) that's it's still worthless for them for being a governmental TV with not much commercials.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Ryzen 4800U


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400% zoom FTW!... So, a ~1500MHz GPU clock, in a laptop, and on top of that on Vega which has a terrible thermal efficiency, with RDNA2 I won't be surprised if the GPU clocks in the upcoming consoles will be close to 2GHz barier.

PS. God the AMD's mobile naming is terrible, they are branding current 3000 CPU series as not released yet 4000 series, with a 3yo GPU architecture...Good luck fighting that already well proven Intel+NV combo.
 

pawel86ck

Banned
The teraflops game started this gen and I believe last gen, it was more about CPU, correct?

Don't get me wrong, teraflops are important, but not the most important factor when it comes to making a genuinely great game.

Crysis is a good example of a game that defined a generation of graphics but wasn't necessarily a great game itself.
Crysis 1 was very good game in my book and reviewers loved it too.
 
Crysis 1 was very good game in my book and reviewers loved it too.
Not saying it's a mediocre game, but is it as revered as Half-Life?

Ken Levine's new project is something that I've been following for the past 4 years and I believe that project will prove to gamers just how much more important CPU capabilities are when it comes to delivering actual generational leaps.
 
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TLZ

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It's this mentality that has gotten the Covid situation where we are today. If from the onset of this thing everyone took it serious and took the necessary precautions, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Not trying to pile on you or anything just blowing off steam
That's not what I meant though. Of course we take precautions, but at the same time not exaggerate. We shouldn't have ignored it when it started. In fact when it first started I told my wife the government should close schools until further notice. What I'm saying is we shouldn't do either or. We shouldn't take extremes. We should do both and be balanced. That's how to better deal with things. Not wait until things get worse.

I hope I didn't confuse you further :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

Bo_Hazem

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Just for the record, my actual job right now is a teacher of special needs children and the vulnerable. However that doesn’t change the fact that over the years I have contributed to many different retail and indie titles.

I'm an Arabic teacher as the main job. Teachers FTW💪

Edit: I'm like a celebrity at the school for being so engaged in gaming and sports. Probably as well occasionally seen on TV. :messenger_tears_of_joy: Helps with controlling the class.
 
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Zero707

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400% zoom FTW!... So, a ~1500MHz GPU clock, in a laptop, and on top of that on Vega which has a terrible thermal efficiency, with RDNA2 I won't be surprised if the GPU clocks in the upcoming consoles will be close to 2GHz barier.
So Another W for GitHub :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_grinning_sweat::messenger_beaming:
 
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Bo_Hazem

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@Agnostic2020 Somehow I have a feeling if I get a threat and reply with a picture of my cock, Twitter won’t be taking my side so quick 🤣 that’s what you get for putting your public details up, ha. It’s on me. As I said, Xbox fans are upset it’s high, Sony fans are upset it’s low. Nintendo fans are still pissed about no Metroid, but at least I’m not to blame for that 🤣

Well, we born with some kinda fanaticism processor inside our brain, I do spread it and break it down to:

Phones: Sony/Android > iPhone/iOS
PC: Microsoft > Apple
Cars: Nissan/Patrol > other brands/4x4 (especially Jeeps and Land Cruisers)
Football: Manchester United > The world

So you end up with less fanaticism in each. You can see that probably everywhere, but some concentrate it into one like Vegans, then it gets extreme to what is literally food. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Want to know the stupid thing? After posting what I have, and reading a few things sent my way, I’ve seen other stories from other areas that have matched what I said (that wasn’t my original post or about me/related to), and a couple were from even before. I mean what else can I say? But alas, I’m here now the same as you all. I won’t be asking for any new info, and anything else I DO get I won’t be posting, that’s for bloody sure. I’ve learnt my lesson: Don’t trust the horde. My character was called into question and insults thrown my way, and that’s fine, this is the internet. But once my daughter was involved sexually, I was well and truly done with it all. Twitter just gave me the usual silence and deleted account bollocks, but it was clearly a fake (0/0 following count). But that’s enough for me to essentially say no, no more. From now on I’m plain clothes, and will just be here for the lulz. People will understand what’s happening at some point.

Anyway, so, what’s new? Have we passed 16tf yet? Are they delayed until 2057 yet? What did I miss 😆
 
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Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
On the subject of tvs, I used to have a ks8000 Samsung, and by lord the backlight was awful. Any dark scene was ruined because there was this glow on random spots, it was just terrible. Shame because the tv wasn’t that bad, but that glow... ugh...

Ive got an OLED now and made a huge problem for myself, because I likely won’t be getting another OLED next time, but these blacks, by god, I don’t want to leave them! Even after a few years of owning one, I still have that weird “what just happened” moment when an advert comes on at night and I think the tv has gone off. Pure black, no light, utterly gorgeous.
 
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Zero707

If I carry on trolling, report me.
Want to know the stupid thing? After posting what I have, and reading a few things sent my way, I’ve seen other stories from other areas that have matched what I said, and a couple were from even before. I mean what else can I say? But alas, I’m here now the same as you all. I won’t be asking for any new info, and anything else I DO get I won’t be posting, that’s for bloody sure. I’ve learnt my lesson: Don’t trust the horde. My character was called into question and insults thrown my way, and that’s fine, this is the internet. But once my daughter was involved sexually, I was well and truly done with it all. Twitter just gave me the usual silence and deleted account bollocks, but it was clearly a fake (0/0 following count). But that’s enough for me to essentially say no, no more. From now on I’m plain clothes, and will just be here for the lulz. People will understand what’s happening at some point.

Anyway, so, what’s new? Have we passed 16tf yet? Are they delayed until 2057 yet? What did I miss 😆
And i am wandering why this thread smells like Pigeons ..........
 

Zero707

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On the is left of tvs, I used to have a ks8000 Samsung, and by lord the backlight was awful. Any dark scene was ruined because there was this glow on random spots, it was just terrible. Shame because the tv wasn’t that bad, but that glow... ugh...

Ive got an OLED now and made a huge problem for myself, because I likely won’t be getting another OLED next time, but these blacks, by god, I don’t want to leave them! Even after a few years of owning one, I still have that weird “what just happened” moment when an advert comes on at night and I think the tv has gone off. Pure black, no light, utterly gorgeous.
OLED still the GOAT
 

CyberPanda

Banned
On the is left of tvs, I used to have a ks8000 Samsung, and by lord the backlight was awful. Any dark scene was ruined because there was this glow on random spots, it was just terrible. Shame because the tv wasn’t that bad, but that glow... ugh...

Ive got an OLED now and made a huge problem for myself, because I likely won’t be getting another OLED next time, but these blacks, by god, I don’t want to leave them! Even after a few years of owning one, I still have that weird “what just happened” moment when an advert comes on at night and I think the tv has gone off. Pure black, no light, utterly gorgeous.
Yea, I got a C9 and love it.
 
Not saying it's a mediocre game, but is it as revered as Half-Life?

Ken Levine's new project is something that I've been following for the past 4 years and I believe that project will prove to gamers just how much more important CPU capabilities are when it comes to delivering actual generational leaps.
Wait, what do you know about Ken Levine's new project?
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Whether people believed me or not, I don’t really care, I have other priorities now. But I do hope at least we all had a little fun along the way. It certainly added a little randomness to an otherwise boring thread. 🐦

I'm 100% sure that you're genuine, along with the rest of the trusted insiders here. But I still think the bigger image is not clear, and numbers are different in the final stage, wither Sony comes on top or Xbox but by small margins. Reee's are kinda salty you are more engaged here, and there is a bigger github cult around there so no wonder.
 
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