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[oatmeal]

That's not true, there are young people and healthy people getting very sick and dying. Of course the majority are older people, but that will always be the case with any illness, and that's still 80%, 20% is no small number on a grand scale.

Where are the young people getting sick and dying? Those seem to be very rare.

in the states it hasn't happened yet.

 

[MilkyJoe]

That's not true, there are young people and healthy people getting very sick and dying. Of course the majority are older people, but that will always be the case with any illness, and that's still 80%, 20% is no small number on a grand scale.

I'm going to need to see those receipts.

If this was a big one infants would be dying in the thousands

 

[Captain Zyrain]

 

[Rock And Roll]

42 new cases in Ontario today. 302 total for Canada. The model of it doubling every 2-3 days seems to have held pretty well for everywhere else, so I'm going to guess by Friday Ontario will be having triple digit new cases each day and the country will be past 1000 new cases.

 

[cryptoadam]

COVID-19 updates March 15: Quebec now has 39 cases, orders further closures

Eleven new cases have been confirmed since Saturday, one of which was in Montreal.

montrealgazette.com

Quebec says bars, movie theatres, gyms, pools, ski hill, dance studios and other non-essential locations must close while the province ramps up measures to fight the novel coronavirus.

Restaurants will have to limit their capacity to about 50 per cent. Takeouts can remain open.

Sugar shacks (cabane à sucre) must also close.

As of 3 p.m. Sunday, there are 39 cases of COVID-19 in Quebec, which means further restrictions are necessary, Premier François Legault said.

“In other countries (the number) was exponential. It could be exponential here,” he said. “What we are doing will save lives.”

Quebecers should only go out to buy bread, go to the pharmacy, take care of an elderly person or go for a walk.

Quebecers should try to remain one metre apart because you could be infected and not know it, he said.

 

[jts]

Yes, because it's fucking nothing unless you are old as fuck on deaths door as it is.

Dude, that's not only not necessarily true, but also when you get it, you're a potential spreader, and even if you don't care for the weak that may get it from you, you'll be contributing to sustain the disease and overwhelm the hospitals which will make it harder for you to get hospital assistance for anything else, as well as perpetuating the whole FUBAR situation we're going thorough, and barely getting started at.

 

[bitbydeath]

BNO playing catch up

Italy not playing around over there.
There’s no way Chinas numbers were real.

 

[Kenpachii]

We need to kick china out of the world and frankly ban any travel from or towards there when they allow shit like this to happen.



The next disease is probably already in the make.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Dude, that's not only not necessarily true, but also when you get it, you're a potential spreader, and even if you don't care for the weak that may get it from you, you'll be contributing to sustain the disease and overwhelm the hospitals which will make it harder for you to get hospital assistance for anything else, as well as perpetuating the whole FUBAR situation we're going thorough, and barely getting started at.

That's why the governments, well some, are going with the herd immunity strategy. Its just another flu and almost all will be fine. There's no need for most to be afraid, the media has caused mass panic over a couple of days feeling like turd.

 

[Melon]

I like when the reporter asked Pence if we may do a nationwide lockdown and Pence answered with, "You'll find out more tomorrow."


Way to make things sound ominous, Pence. lol

 

[oatmeal]

I like when the reporter asked Pence if we may do a nationwide lockdown and Pence answered with, "You'll find out more tomorrow."


Way to make things sound ominous, Pence. lol

They ask questions so they can cause more panic. They've had a single focus here and that's to drive panic. Pence isn't biting to give them some soundbite that they can use to cause more unrest.

The US media has been a complete embarrassment through this.

 

[DragoonKain]

Where are the young people getting sick and dying? Those seem to be very rare.

in the states it hasn't happened yet.

I'm going to need to see those receipts.

If this was a big one infants would be dying in the thousands

Over 50% of ICU patients in France are under 60.

Posted a case yesterday of someone on the brink of death in their mid 30's in this country. Another one I saw today in their 20's(same hospital as one I posted yesterday) very sick.

If you follow the news on this diligently there are a lot of younger and healthy people very ill.

 

[cryptoadam]

42 new cases in Ontario today. 302 total for Canada. The model of it doubling every 2-3 days seems to have held pretty well for everywhere else, so I'm going to guess by Friday Ontario will be having triple digit new cases each day and the country will be past 1000 new cases.

So far the provinces is taking a lot of steps. Hitting a 1000 is another milestone I hope we don't reach. Lucky are deahts are low. Cases are going to go up we need to keep deaths low though. It seems pretty much all across canada there are basically lock downs except for essentials. TBH I suspect curfews coming up very soon. The big key is how you manage it from 1000 to 10000, and above 10k and its a runaway train at that point.

 

[oatmeal]

Over 50% of ICU patients in France are under 60.

Posted a case yesterday of someone on the brink of death in their mid 30's in this country. Another one I saw today in their 20's(same hospital as one I posted yesterday) very sick.

If you follow the news on this diligently there are a lot of younger and healthy people very ill.

Under 60 meaning what? There's a reason we break down by age brackets so we can understand it more. Merely saying Under 60 tells you nothing.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Lol

 

[DragoonKain]

Under 60 meaning what? There's a reason we break down by age brackets so we can understand it more. Merely saying Under 60 tells you nothing.

I mean, does it really matter?

If you get infected, even if you survive, you're a carrier. You can pass it on to people who can die. Elderly or not. It's not just about me or you getting sick. It's how many we can infect also. Everyone's life matters. Whether they are 20 or 85. These are people's loved ones regardless of age.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Over 50% of ICU patients in France are under 60.

Posted a case yesterday of someone on the brink of death in their mid 30's in this country. Another one I saw today in their 20's(same hospital as one I posted yesterday) very sick.

If you follow the news on this diligently there are a lot of younger and healthy people very ill.

A baby in the uk had it, it's not dead.

People of all ages get flu, if they are already in the underline health conditions camp they are at risk, but most healthy under 60s are just going to get a pain in the arse couple of days in bed

 

[oatmeal]

I mean, does it really matter?

If you get infected, even if you survive, you're a carrier. You can pass it on to people who can die. Elderly or not. It's not just about me or you getting sick. It's how many we can infect also. Everyone's life matters. Whether they are 20 or 85. These are people's loved ones regardless of age.

It matters if the majority of that 50% is 50-60.

All the numbers matter. Otherwise you're just dealing with narratives.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Here's a bit of an honest controversial take stemming from a selfish 1st world brain:

This is the dream epidemic situation.

We all in the 1st world who've played video games and watched movies have had these fantasies of what it would be if some horrible plague happened, a zombie invasion or just whatever other apocalypse situation there could be.
Now we're having one that's right on the threshold of being safe enough and way too dangerous.
We can now kinda larp living an apocalypse scenario.

It's not like stepping outside would instakill us or if we got the disease it would be a 100% torturous experience of vomiting shit and blood and having skin boiling and rotting. But it still is an actual real and dangerous deadly disease that we can't take too lightly.
It's not like everyone who gets out gets shot or that there are some vicious gangs forming in the streets and it's not a situation where everyone in the world needs to go to an underground bunker, but it's still dangerous enough to actually have real lockdowns, emptry streets, empty grocery stores, forced closings of public events, passenger flights and cruises cancelled, no sport events, people having to keep distance to each other. Like a real sense of the world turning around while not being unbearably too much of that sense.

It's kinda like a really well made training scenario for some absolutely devastating world shaking event. It's a real deal with our lives kinda really on stake and there is an actual real feel of real danger, but we don't really have to fear for our lives 24/7 and we still can communicate with each other with no problem whatsoever.

It's like getting to live a bit in a world of some apocalypse movie during its first 10 minutes with a sign of things to come here and there and a montage of warnings on tv and newspapers and things looking like they might crash any moment now, but not really having to stay in that movie too long past that point.
Kinda having a small taste of an apocalypse and still being able to be the fat lazy bastards we like to be.

Now, here's hoping it will stay this way and not escalate into a complete nightmare. But if it stays like this, it's catering to our brains that are hooked into going through morbid scenarios from safe distance, but as an actual good thing it's making countries train really hard for any upcoming hyper deadly plague scenarios.

First of all, downplaying the gravity of this using the "only old people" mantra is disgusting. Not only disgusting but wrong. Young people have already died. It is less likely, yes, but it has happened and it may happen many times, as the desease infects more people.

From an Economics point of view, it is the apocalypse. Many companies are going under and that will lead to unemployment at historical levels worldwide once the epidemic crisis is over.

Actually, what this crisis has shown us is that the world is not ready for this. If something deadlier ever comes up, we are all doomed. This event will amount zero "experience points" for the next time we face a crisis of this magnitude.


The media is not overblowing anyhing. On my side of the world what they have done is quite the opposite, with catastrophic results. I wish they had warned people over the true danger of this. Until last week all they were saying is that "it's just a flu, you just wash your hands and that's it"

It's not the end of the world, but expect major disruptions in common people's lives for the next few years.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I mean, does it really matter?

If you get infected, even if you survive, you're a carrier. You can pass it on to people who can die. Elderly or not. It's not just about me or you getting sick. It's how many we can infect also. Everyone's life matters. Whether they are 20 or 85. These are people's loved ones regardless of age.

NO

IF YOU SURVIVE IT'S DEAD IN YOU, YOU ARE NOT A RISK OF PASSING IT ON.

FFS let's have some sanity here

 

[DragoonKain]

It matters if the majority of that 50% is 50-60.

All the numbers matter. Otherwise you're just dealing with narratives.

But it still invalidates his original argument and that was the point of sharing those numbers. That it only messes up very sick and elderly people. When it doesn't. I mean, that much has already been proven.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Food shortage 2020 WOOOOOOO
#CannedFoods
#ThoseBitchesTookMyDoritos

 

[Sub_Level]

Food shortage 2020 WOOOOOOO
#CannedFoods
#ThoseBitchesTookMyDoritos

Fuck you I ate a whole pizza today.

 

[DragoonKain]

NO

IF YOU SURVIVE IT'S DEAD IN YOU, YOU ARE NOT A RISK OF PASSING IT ON.

FFS let's have some sanity here

If you're infected, you're a carrier. The point is, it's still a huge deal for someone 25 and healthy to get it because that person could get very minor symptoms and pass it along to 10 people who will have worse symptoms.

It's a big deal. Gotta look out for our fellow man.

 

[oatmeal]

But it still invalidates his original argument and that was the point of sharing those numbers. That it only messes up very sick and elderly people. When it doesn't. I mean, that much has already been proven.

But we don't know that since you won't post the numbers you're referencing.

No one wants anyone to get sick, but this thing is known to not affect non-elder people as much. It's pretty much guaranteed, so if you're coming in and saying 50% of the extreme cases are not the elderly in France, I want to see what is happening there that isn't happening anywhere else.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

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[SLoWMoTIoN]

Fuck you I ate a whole pizza today.

Same because the grocery stores were full.

 

[MilkyJoe]

If you're infected, you're a carrier. The point is, it's still a huge deal for someone 25 and healthy to get it because that person could get very minor symptoms and pass it along to 10 people who will have worse symptoms.

It's a big deal. Gotta look out for our fellow man.

NO, NOOOOOOOOOO

IF YOU HAVE IMMUNITY TO IT YOU ARE NOT A CARRIER. ITS CALLED HERD IMMUNISATION.

STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT!

 

[DragoonKain]

But we don't know that since you won't post the numbers you're referencing.

No one wants anyone to get sick, but this thing is known to not affect non-elder people as much. It's pretty much guaranteed, so if you're coming in and saying 50% of the extreme cases are not the elderly in France, I want to see what is happening there that isn't happening anywhere else.

Does me posting a tweet really make a difference, do you think I just made it up?

All the info is out there, man. I've read dozens upon dozens of first hand accounts from doctors, nurses, medical professionals, etc and reporters talking about how a lot of healthy and young people are getting sick over the last week.





They're all over the place online man, just take a look for yourself. The narrative out there that this is only the elderly and already sick is just wrong.

 

[GamingKaiju]

Welp the U.K. has lost its shit and the supermarket shelves are fucking bare I brought what I could last week but due to finances I wasn’t in a position to buy much. I get paid this week so will be out hunting for food, me and my lady are looking at buying raw ingredients and cooking from scratch stuff like pasta, bread etc

Since the idiots have brought up all the tinned stuff. Panic buying toilet paper though utter fucking morons.

 

[DragoonKain]

NO, NOOOOOOOOOO

IF YOU HAVE IMMUNITY TO IT YOU ARE NOT A CARRIER. ITS CALLED HERD IMMUNISATION.

STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT!

I'm talking about before immunity. Before you get over the virus. Obviously. C'mon man, stop trolling lol. A healthy 25 year old can get it, only have a minor cough, and during that time spread it to others before their body fights off the virus. This isn't rocket science stuff here.

 

[Loki]

NYC just announced that public schools will be closed until at least April 20th and possibly the rest of the year.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I'm talking about before immunity. Before you get over the virus. Obviously. C'mon man, stop trolling lol. A healthy 25 year old can get it, only have a minor cough, and during that time spread it to others before their body fights off the virus. This isn't rocket science stuff here.

That's why governments have implemented self isolation. I've already been banned from my work for having a cold.

 

[TwoDurans]

Shit like this is why they need to shut down the US. We can't be trusted to not act like idiots in times of crisis.

 

[Kadayi]

Yep, definitely not going to work tomorrow. Even in normal times I’m feeling too rough to go in.

In a bit of a dilemma though. I need to stock up for the week. I live close to a supermarket so can get in early, but my late fiancée’s mum (who lives 30 seconds away) has offered to leave meals and other food supplies at my door.

It’s a kind offer, but if I’ve got it (and I think I probably have), I don’t even want her near my front door.

My advice. Mask & Glove up. Hit the supermarket early, buy as much shit as you can and use the self-checkout. That way you minimize any contact risk . Also, make sure you don't use the keypad without some anti-bac

 

[DragoonKain]

That's why governments have implemented self isolation. I've already been banned from my work for having a cold.

The majority of this is spreading by people before they develop symptoms. Which can take up to a few days to a week. All that time you have no symptoms and are infected. It's hard to contain.

And self isolation only works if you live alone, otherwise, you spread it among family. The goal is testing and total isolation.

 

[Jtibh]

COVID-19 updates March 15: Quebec now has 39 cases, orders further closures

Eleven new cases have been confirmed since Saturday, one of which was in Montreal.

montrealgazette.com

Quebec says bars, movie theatres, gyms, pools, ski hill, dance studios and other non-essential locations must close while the province ramps up measures to fight the novel coronavirus.

Restaurants will have to limit their capacity to about 50 per cent. Takeouts can remain open.

Sugar shacks (cabane à sucre) must also close.

As of 3 p.m. Sunday, there are 39 cases of COVID-19 in Quebec, which means further restrictions are necessary, Premier François Legault said.

“In other countries (the number) was exponential. It could be exponential here,” he said. “What we are doing will save lives.”

Quebecers should only go out to buy bread, go to the pharmacy, take care of an elderly person or go for a walk.

Quebecers should try to remain one metre apart because you could be infected and not know it, he said.

Checking alberta site brb

No change no update.

Only thing i see is reduced hours for malls.
11am to 7pm.
Like it matters

 

[Chaplain]

 

[DragoonKain]

States are stepping up today and they all need to right now.

 

[bitbydeath]

Does me posting a tweet really make a difference, do you think I just made it up?

All the info is out there, man. I've read dozens upon dozens of first hand accounts from doctors, nurses, medical professionals, etc and reporters talking about how a lot of healthy and young people are getting sick over the last week.





They're all over the place online man, just take a look for yourself. The narrative out there that this is only the elderly and already sick is just wrong.

Yeah, I don’t know why anyone’s arguing this.
Everyone gets sick, elderly are more prone to dying and that is due to many reasons. One being they’re often left to die while the young get treated.

 

[oatmeal]

Does me posting a tweet really make a difference, do you think I just made it up?

All the info is out there, man. I've read dozens upon dozens of first hand accounts from doctors, nurses, medical professionals, etc and reporters talking about how a lot of healthy and young people are getting sick over the last week.





They're all over the place online man, just take a look for yourself. The narrative out there that this is only the elderly and already sick is just wrong.

Again it just says "under 60" which gives not a ton of information. Under 60 is too broad.

 

[DragoonKain]

Again it just says "under 60" which gives not a ton of information. Under 60 is too broad.

But it counters the false point that "only elderly and sick people are getting hurt by this" and that's all I wanted to do. Was show that it wasn't. The divide of that demographic is a whole other debate entirely.

 

[oatmeal]

Yeah, I don’t know why anyone’s arguing this.
Everyone gets sick, elderly are more prone to dying and that is due to many reasons. One being they’re often left to die while the young get treated.

I'm not arguing anything, just that I want a clear view of the stats.

His argument is that young people should be as afraid of this because in France, half the people who are in the ICU are under 60. This goes against the general idea that the elderly are the most affected.

I'm just looking for clarity. What does that 50% actually look like? If it were a 50/50 split between elderly and not, that changes the entire outlook on this thing.

So yes, it's not just about not caring about old people, it's about knowing the truth about what's happening.

 

[T8SC]

- Italy: 3,590 new cases, 368 new deaths


Locking the country down clearly works then.



/sarcasm.

 

[Kagey K]

Checking alberta site brb

No change no update.

Only thing i see is reduced hours for malls.
11am to 7pm.
Like it matters

They haven’t updated today. (Checked 20 mins ago)

Edit you edited while I was posting

 

[oatmeal]

But it counters the false point that "only elderly and sick people are getting hurt by this" and that's all I wanted to do. Was show that it wasn't. The divide of that demographic is a whole other debate entirely.

I know what you mean, and I appreciate you posting them. I'm not trying to disparage anything you're saying, I'm just trying to find more clarity. Because those numbers can mean a million different things, and we don't have the full breakdown right now.

 

[Karma Jawa]

My advice. Mask & Glove up. Hit the supermarket early, buy as much shit as you can and use the self-checkout. That way you minimize any contact risk . Also, make sure you don't use the keypad without some anti-bac

Thanks. I’m going to self-scan and pay in batches so I can use contactless. I can get there at 6AM. I’ll certainly make sure I’m as clean and as covered as possible.

Looking to cook a batch of food so I can freeze a load of stuff.

 

[bitbydeath]

I'm not arguing anything, just that I want a clear view of the stats.

His argument is that young people should be as afraid of this because in France, half the people who are in the ICU are under 60. This goes against the general idea that the elderly are the most affected.

I'm just looking for clarity. What does that 50% actually look like? If it were a 50/50 split between elderly and not, that changes the entire outlook on this thing.

So yes, it's not just about not caring about old people, it's about knowing the truth about what's happening.

If everyone has it how much can ones lungs take given re-infection is a thing?

 

[DragoonKain]

I'm not arguing anything, just that I want a clear view of the stats.

His argument is that young people should be as afraid of this because in France, half the people who are in the ICU are under 60. This goes against the general idea that the elderly are the most affected.

I'm just looking for clarity. What does that 50% actually look like? If it were a 50/50 split between elderly and not, that changes the entire outlook on this thing.

So yes, it's not just about not caring about old people, it's about knowing the truth about what's happening.

My argument isn't that young people should be as afraid. It's that everyone should take it seriously and just because you're young doesn't mean you can't get very sick. Whether or not people wanna worry is up to them, but I'm just giving the facts, and also telling those to mind their fellow man and don't risk infecting others.

 

[oatmeal]

My argument isn't that young people should be as afraid. It's that everyone should take it seriously and just because you're young doesn't mean you can't get very sick. Whether or not people wanna worry is up to them, but I'm just giving the facts, and also telling those to mind their fellow man and don't risk infecting others.

Cool. I don't think we're arguing as much as I just want more info since your info is purposefully vague (not your fault).