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Dolby Atmos Pushes Back Against Mark Cerny PS5 Audio Claims

Mark Cerny makes claims about Dolby Atmos's technology during Sony's Road to PS5 event and the company responds.

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[Arkam]

Unless their response was "Your equipment no longer needs to be licensed by us to support our formats" they didnt push back on the largest part of his assertions. Not that Dolby sux, but that it is behind a paywall.

 

[Clintizzle]

All I heard was "My dad can beat up your dad"

 

[sdrawkcab]

Okay

 

[LittleBusters]

Dolby supports more audio sources and they're the gold standard. I'd rather devs target Dolby Atmos. This is typical Sony/Apple bullshit putting in proprietary tech.

 

[martino]

Dolby supports more audio sources and they're the gold standard. I'd rather devs target Dolby Atmos. This is typical Sony/Apple bullshit putting in proprietary tech.

isn't atmos proprietary ?

 

[lynux3]

Dolby supports more audio sources and they're the gold standard. I'd rather devs target Dolby Atmos. This is typical Sony/Apple bullshit putting in proprietary tech.

Dobly Atmos is proprietary.

 

[LittleBusters]

isn't atmos proprietary ?

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD. Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

 

[Fulcizombie]

The ps5 presentation becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day. I can’t wait for the day when someone will discover the average clock speeds that the GPU&CPU are running at.

 

[martino]

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD.

i can hear the argument .
but as a whole company sony do that kind of R&D for other products, why not use it ?

 

[LittleBusters]

i can hear the argument .
but as a whole company sony do that kind of R&D for other products, why not use it ?

Where else will their 3D audio engine be used? Sony mobile phones are dead, Sony laptops dead. What?

 

[martino]

Where else will their 3D audio engine be used? Sony mobile phones are dead, Sony laptops dead. What?

strangely audio (headphone, hifi etc...)

 

[TLZ]

The ps5 presentation becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day. I can’t wait for the day when someone will discover the average clock speeds that the GPU&CPU are running at.

At 1mhz.

Feel good?

 

[Gamernyc78]

Dolby supports more audio sources and they're the gold standard. I'd rather devs target Dolby Atmos. This is typical Sony/Apple bullshit putting in proprietary tech.

No this is Sony being Sony, you know one of the pioneers and innovators in bluray, console vr, etc. Just because Dolby is deep in it doesn't mean other companies should stay stagnant and can't do better. More competition and pushing innovation breeds new and better methods.

 

[DESTROYA]

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD. Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

You know what the PS5’s cooling solution is and sounds like?

 

[Robins]

strangely audio (headphone, hifi etc...)

Yeah their noise cancelling headphones are killing it right now

 

[A.Romero]

It was probably cheaper to develop Tempest than to pay Dolby for licensing. Simple.

If not, then Sony really thinks this can make a difference.

What's not to like?

 

[Mithos]

Not everyone have hardware that can decode/do "dolby atmos"...
Thats was one of the reasons they made tempest was it not.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

All I heard was my "My dad can beat up your dad"

 

[Lanrutcon]

Money is always the bottom line.

Sony saw they could save a buck, so they did. Quality has nothing to do with it.

It's called business.

 

[BattleScar]

All I heard was my "My dad can beat up your dad"

NeoGAF since the consoles have been unveiled

 

[TGO]

Seems it was taken out of context

PS5's 3D Audio Technology Even Has Dolby Atmos Excited

Hear, hear

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[Windows-PC]

I'm personally happy that the XBox Series X supports Dolby Atmos. Dolby stands for the worldwide leading high quality audio technology.

Never heard something before of the 3D Tempest Engine, and I actually don't care, sorry

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Where else will their 3D audio engine be used? Sony mobile phones are dead, Sony laptops dead. What?

the 3d audio hardware was said to be cell like in nature, I suspect could have uses outside of audio.

 

[B0xel-new]

Where else will their 3D audio engine be used? Sony mobile phones are dead, Sony laptops dead. What?

You do know that Sony Music Entertainment exists right? Also you have no idea what their new tech brings, maybe they have new features that aren’t available on Dolby Atmos, or they want to compete with them. I guess you would have told them not to bother with Blu-ray either, I mean DVD was a thing. I really don’t understand what you’re crying about, this isn’t something Sony just threw together for the PS5 to avoid paying licensing fees. They are actually heavily invested in the Audio business.

 

[lynux3]

With Sony's acquisition of AudioKinetic, company behind Wwise, Tempest 3D audio SDK will likely be integrated into that. Many studios utilize Wwise and injecting Tempest 3D audio for developers to play with is a no brainer.

 

[ethomaz]

It is old.
And Dolby praises Sony imitative.

 

[Matsuchezz]

Tempest Engine is a PS5 hardware feature, right? I wonder if the headset will connect/pair directly to PS5 or it will connect/pair to DS5?
I am really looking forward to PS5 teardown to be held soon enough, so we can learn more about the console ins and outs. I am guessing this will happen after The Last of US Part 2 is released or GoT in june.

 

[Fulcizombie]

At 1mhz.

Feel good?

Nope, don’t worry we will eventually find out.

 

[TGO]

Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't.

*Looks back at the last 20 years *

 

[IbizaPocholo]

[

Dolby Atmos’s Dev About PS5’s 3D audio "Tempest Engine"

Q- Is it true Dolby Atmos is capped at 32 objects? No, that is incorrect. As a technology, Dolby Atmos can support hundreds of simultaneous objects. That being said, we fall back on sage advice from developers of some of the first Atmos games: Objects are a fantastic tool, but restraint should...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Fake]

Never heard something before of the 3D Tempest Engine, and I actually don't care, sorry

Neither Dolby Atmos before release. Try a little hard next time.

 

[diffusionx]

"Tech company doesn't want other tech company to use different technology than the one they are selling" - wow what a story.

 

[888]

No this is Sony being Sony, you know one of the pioneers and innovators in bluray, console vr, etc. Just because Dolby is deep in it doesn't mean other companies should stay stagnant and can't do better. More competition and pushing innovation breeds new and better methods.

Also the inventor of high priced Proprietary storage formats. With everyone good Sony does, they end up doing something dumb.

 

[draliko]

Some of you guys seems like they don't know dolby labs and what they did in the past...

 

[Gamernyc78]

Also the inventor of high priced Proprietary storage formats. With everyone good Sony does, they end up doing something dumb.

Thts all companies, every single one of them. They are not in business to be ppls friends.

 

[Jigsaah]

Yawn...

When's this thing coming out already?

I'm so over these companies slap boxing each other.

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD. Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

Hey since you've heard the ps5's cooling set up in action can you share a pic of the unit that you snapped? Or were you not able to grab one?

Seriously though what makes you think both options arent possible?

Why is it ok for Dolby to have proprietary tech but not Sony?

 

[TGO]

Also the most important part

As a technology, Dolby Atmos can support hundreds of objects simultaneously

Keyword: "can"
But it don't.
They say it can, but at the moment it doesn't.

 

[PocoJoe]

Hey since you've heard the ps5's cooling set up in action can you share a pic of the unit that you snapped? Or were you not able to grab one?

Seriously though what makes you think both options arent possible?

Why is it ok for Dolby to have proprietary tech but not Sony?

Because xbox fanboys are so childish that they cant see tech as tech, they HAVE TO bash anything related to Sony to feel like they won some imaginary battle

I see this Sony solution as wise move. They get what they want, can modify it and it is made for games, not for movies(mainly) like atmos

I have atmos setup and honestly it isnt anything special. But if Sony can offer real 3D audio with this, it is epic

Maybe dolby could too, but why the fuck Sony cant use their solution if they want?

Oh, I forgot! Because xbox uses dolby so it must "win" because of dipshits and their fragile egos

 

[The Pleasure]

Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

Microsoft Zune, windows phone, windows rt, windows millennium edition, sidewinder controllers, Microsoft Bob, active x, developers developers developers. Anything else I'm missing?

 

[PSYGN]

strangely audio (headphone, hifi etc...)

 

[sendit]

Microsoft Zune, windows phone, windows rt, windows millennium edition, sidewinder controllers, Microsoft Bob, active x, developers developers developers. Anything else I'm missing?

Kinect.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

is this like the 3d audio in the VR headset? if so then it's pretty fucking good when used correctly.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD. Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

Mind telling us what the cooling solution is like on PS5 since you're in a position to make such claims?

Also, LOL What???

 

[TLZ]

I'm personally happy that the XBox Series X supports Dolby Atmos. Dolby stands for the worldwide leading high quality audio technology.

Never heard something before of the 3D Tempest Engine, and I actually don't care, sorry

Way to encourage innovation!

 

[Hawking Radiation]

*Looks back at the last 20 years *

Yeah, just look at his post history. YIKES

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

It's licensed tech. Sony's Tempest engine will never be. There is no valid reason for Sony to have wasted R&D on their custom 3D audio engine, they could have instead used that cash to improve the cooling system so the Playstation doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Opportunity costs, something Sony needs to learn and HARD. Microsoft seems to know how to pick battles, Sony doesn't. They're doing things out of pride rather than rationality.

This guy

 

[Hostile_18]

Must admit I feel like a bit of a second class citizen to Sony at the moment audio wise. I've got a 5.1.2 Atmos Setup.

Sony are saying they are focusing on Headphones, then tv speakers and then finally those with surround sound systems.

Way to deprioritise those that care about immersive sound quality most lol.

 

[DESTROYA]

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