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Goddamn if true... Hopefully a reporter will ask about this in the next press conference.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Goddamn if true... Hopefully a reporter will ask about this in the next press conference.
Insane Metal
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I think he actually is one.
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Deleted member 17706
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Just saw the Trump tweet update. Hell yeah for "P act all the way." Man, 3M is going to get a lot of well deserved shit for this.
Yep. Our health care workers can end up dead in droves because of this move by 3M.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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WSJ News Exclusive | 3M CEO on N95 Masks: ‘Demand Exceeds Our Production Capacity’
American manufacturers say it will be months before they meet demand for high-quality masks. “The demand we have exceeds our production capacity,” 3M Chief Executive Mike Roman said.
www.wsj.com
Kacho
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Unbelievable...
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Deleted member 17706
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That was fast.WSJ News Exclusive | 3M CEO on N95 Masks: ‘Demand Exceeds Our Production Capacity’
American manufacturers say it will be months before they meet demand for high-quality masks. “The demand we have exceeds our production capacity,” 3M Chief Executive Mike Roman said.
Paywall. Does it say anything new?
Phunkydiabetic
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SLoWMoTIoN
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It was just the CEO lying if that tweet and video are anything to go by.
DragoonKain
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How long does it take to make these masks? You’d figure they could make millions a week.
rykomatsu
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I'm not going to damn 3M just yet - this really depends on the contractual obligations that exists between a distributor and manufacturer.
For example, on one extreme, there is sole distributorship where one company (that is not the manufacturer) that literally owns the full legal rights of selling a product (can be domestically, internationally, or globally).
A manufacturer can't just abandon that obligation just because a pandemic strikes.
3M's response might be crass, but really this is an area I would argue that the feds should be stepping in. Obviously, without knowing the agreements, this is speculation, but devil's in the details IMHO.
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10 million per week, according to that video.
All Hail C-Webb
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I hope the same.
Why on earth didn't he invoke the act a month ago when people were asking him to? Deblasio was basically begging him everyday in his press conferences. I know many other local politicians around the country were too.
Thank god he finally acted though. Or did he? He's claimed to have used it before when he hadn't.
Now he needs to invoke it to have other companies make surgical masks and the like. C'mon Pres, get r done.
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DeepEnigma
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Last I heard from the President’s press conference a couple weeks ago, 3M said they can produce 35 million a month.
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Because his initial approach was all about bringing corporations together to help, taking advantage of the unprecedented spirit of cooperation or whatever he called it. He wanted to give companies the chance to step up and do their part rather than forcefully take them over.
I understand the desire to want fast action, but imagine if he had started using the emergency act immediately without even giving corporations a chance. People already called him a wannabe dictator before all of this.
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cryptoadam
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So I think the tracker for USA gonna become a bit useless.
As of March 31, the NYC Health Department is now reporting the number of COVID-19 cases by diagnosis date, instead of report date. Diagnosis date is the date that someone went to their doctor and had a swab taken for testing. We were previously using the reported date of infection. Diagnosis date is more reflective of when people are getting sick and being tested.
Due to this change, case counts per day reported previously will not match current daily counts. Information about cases over the last week will be incomplete until the laboratories and hospitals report the results for people who were tested, which can take a few days to a week.
As of March 31, the NYC Health Department is now reporting the number of COVID-19 cases by diagnosis date, instead of report date. Diagnosis date is the date that someone went to their doctor and had a swab taken for testing. We were previously using the reported date of infection. Diagnosis date is more reflective of when people are getting sick and being tested.
Due to this change, case counts per day reported previously will not match current daily counts. Information about cases over the last week will be incomplete until the laboratories and hospitals report the results for people who were tested, which can take a few days to a week.
DragoonKain
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Then I don't see how the demand outdoes the supply. 10 million in a week should be plenty for the hospitals if we're just talking workers and patients, not the general public.. And that's just from one manufacturer.
nikolino840
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Already posted? I have missed 80 pages on this thread XD
Maiden Voyage
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3 M doesn’t sell direct. I don’t see how this is on 3M.
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Because they knew about it and still sold to their distributors. Maybe there are some real nuanced details that can make this all sound reasonable, but I'm doubting it at this moment.
Maiden Voyage
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3M is massive. They do business with a shit ton of distributors at the global level. They have no functional way of enforcing the sale of these masks past the distribution.
It’s like your auto dealer telling you not to drive the car theY just sold you over 25 mph. They have no bearing on what happens after you leave the lot.
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Smiles and Cries
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China has a lot of resentful press. China lies too much so hard to defend them from any of this. I tend to believe they did all of these things reported.
edit: calling it the CCP Virus lol
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All Hail C-Webb
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When has Trump ever given a shit about what some press members thought? Are you calling the President a pussy?
He knew enough to ban travel from China, but he thought that was enough to prevent any outbreak in the US? Are you calling the President a moron?
He wanted to give companies a chance, before he decided to make moves to save American lives? You're definitely calling him a monster, and a failed President.
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Jtibh
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After what china did , everything reported here can be taken as factual.
All i can hope the world will boycott everything from china so they go broke as shit.
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Smiles and Cries
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Jtibh
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We will never know since there is no testing at all and never will be.
Smiles and Cries
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I keep trying to tell people there are worse places than Haiti
6 people in a one room house or shack smh nothing can be done stupid to even send in the army
deep poverty does not work well with these new rules, like the painting of parking lots to mark of spacing for homeless people smh
you are right we will never know the outcome
Kacho
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Holy shit this channel is amazing. They rip the Chinese government to shreds. Easy sub.
Halo is Back
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we have an example. People of Ecuador throwing bodies in the streets and some burning them
darkestdame
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Trump administration ended pandemic early-warning program to detect coronaviruses
The hits of missteps keep rolling in day after day
The hits of missteps keep rolling in day after day
GAMETA
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After the 3M thing, what do you think about the US taking test kits from Italy?
www.defenseone.com
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
US Air Force Flew Half a Million Coronavirus Test Swabs From Italy to Tennessee
Similar missions to distribute COVID-19 test kits are expected in coming days.
www.defenseone.com
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
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After the 3M thing, what do you think about the US taking test kits from Italy?
US Air Force Flew Half a Million Coronavirus Test Swabs From Italy to Tennessee
Similar missions to distribute COVID-19 test kits are expected in coming days.
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
Does Italy have a shortage and the US somehow stole/outbid them in their time of need? The article doesn't give me that impression.
Tesseract
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doing the best we can, mistakes will be made
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DeepEnigma
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After the 3M thing, what do you think about the US taking test kits from Italy?
US Air Force Flew Half a Million Coronavirus Test Swabs From Italy to Tennessee
Similar missions to distribute COVID-19 test kits are expected in coming days.
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
From the article:
Make with that what you will.
GaviotaGrande
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I'm a freedom loving man but this makes me think that maybe dictatorship is not so bad after all. What the actual fuck.
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While I'm certainly in favor of funding groups with goals of prevention and security in general, I'm not seeing any evidence that if they had more funding they would have done anything to prevent this.
They detected a ton of viruses, including novel coronaviruses over the years. It's quite unclear if any direct actions were ever taken as a result of their research. Maybe if they had actual people on site in that Wuhan lab when it's rumored other researchers were exposed to the virus, they could have sounded an alarm about it, but that's really neither here nor there.
Captain Zyrain
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I feel like this is always going to be one of the things that globalization with struggle with.
If there is a shortage of product, who gets it? The person who pays the most? The person who needs it the most? The person closest? The person with the biggest gun? None of them are particularly 'fair' but life isn't fair.
If you set yourself up needing things from across the globe and suddenly everyone, including the people across the globe, need that thing badly.. Why would they ship it to you instead of using it themselves? I have zero faith that people will continue to abide by good nature once the bodybags really start to pile up.
I don't know what the answer is other than every county should be making their own important shit to be self sufficient for at least a time.
If there is a shortage of product, who gets it? The person who pays the most? The person who needs it the most? The person closest? The person with the biggest gun? None of them are particularly 'fair' but life isn't fair.
If you set yourself up needing things from across the globe and suddenly everyone, including the people across the globe, need that thing badly.. Why would they ship it to you instead of using it themselves? I have zero faith that people will continue to abide by good nature once the bodybags really start to pile up.
I don't know what the answer is other than every county should be making their own important shit to be self sufficient for at least a time.
GAMETA
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While at the same 3M is being accused of selling much needed products to other nations... Double standards, much?
Scopa
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Hoo ra?After the 3M thing, what do you think about the US taking test kits from Italy?
US Air Force Flew Half a Million Coronavirus Test Swabs From Italy to Tennessee
Similar missions to distribute COVID-19 test kits are expected in coming days.
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
It depends. The article doesn’t state who owned the swabs. If it was already US military equipment, then I have no problem with them taking them back to their own citizens.
If not, yeah that would be blatant double standards and not cool.
That just sounds like propaganda.
Cybrwzrd
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After the 3M thing, what do you think about the US taking test kits from Italy?
US Air Force Flew Half a Million Coronavirus Test Swabs From Italy to Tennessee
Similar missions to distribute COVID-19 test kits are expected in coming days.
Is this how the US works? "We first, fuck the rest"?
Yes.
That is how it should work too. Our citizens come first. And yet we are helping.
If you want this threat contained, let the US get their shit in order, because the CCP fucked us all, then you vassal states will be next. Until then, well, I hope your politicians can get their shit together.
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Alx
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Nah masks are needed in huge quantity because they're discardable. It's like gloves and needles, you throw them away once they've been used with a patient. Health workers are supposed to use a dozen a day. France alone estimated its needs to 40 million masks a week, and made an order for 1 billion of them from all available sources, despite having local manufacturers too. And all other countries are doing the same, so there's a huge competition to get those.
The Scrivener
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I am. What's so strange about that. I'm a lost cause I guess then.
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