Kagey K
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Last week my daughter told me when those babies get older they will be called quaranteens.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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crowbrow
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Ok my bad. I can acknowledge a mistake unlike others
How about cuban cigars though?
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Mihos
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Jasmine flowers are banned... the word Jasmine doesn't even show up in search engines. Gambling of all types is illegal even in private residences. Only exemption is the state lotteries. Big Bang was banned the first time I was there, substitute South Park if you want to go by last time I was there in November.
Mihos
Gold Member
Ok my bad. I can acknowledge a mistake unlike others
legal since 2016
crowbrow
Banned
That's weird with Jasmine flowers. But then again I can smoke a joint legally in the Netherlands or take shrooms and not in most places in the US. Also I can gamble a lot more in Cyrpus than in Germany and in Germany much more than in the US.
I'm not defending China, but there are restrictions to freedom almost everywhere.
crowbrow
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On I didn't know, you're not free to sell them in your country though.
darkestdame
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We’ve gotten completely exposed, Taiwan & South Korea showed up the “best healthcare system”The US is starting to look more and more like a third world country.
Hospitals Tell Doctors They’ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear
Hospitals Tell Doctors They’ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear
"I spoke out for patient safety and as a result I got terminated."www.bloomberg.com
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Sums up your entire posting history.
crowbrow
Banned
Restricting and threatening doctors Chinese style. They learned from the best.The US is starting to look more and more like a third world country.
Hospitals Tell Doctors They’ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear
Hospitals Tell Doctors They’ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear
"I spoke out for patient safety and as a result I got terminated."
Shrap
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Is your daughter also your father? Because that's some prime dad joke material right there.
RSB
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betrayal
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This is a completely wrong way of thinking and in fact not logical and not correct. No matter whether less or more tests are done. If the number of cases goes up and not down, then a) there was no lockdown or b) too many people did not maintain the lockdown. The development of case numbers during a lockdown has nothing to do with testing. Sure, the numbers certainly don't drop to zero, but a lockdown reduces the number of active cases.
The topic "preventing a collapse of health care systems" refers solely to the peak, i.e. the period with the most active cases. Italy, for example, will soon leave this peak behind .What follows is a further decrease in active cases (daily recovered + deaths > daily number of new infections). How far the daily average number will decrease will vary from country to country. The peak, as currently in Italy, should and must never be reached again, otherwise you have done something wrong.
After a lockdown, several measures (social distancing, no large events, hygiene, ...) are still important, which together with contact tracing etc. keep the general number of cases at a low level. This is the only way it works and we will soon experience this almost everywhere in the world. The worst should be over in most countries in a few weeks. After that, the very hard work will begin to keep the case numbers low and at the same time avoid further lockdowns, although this will certainly not always be possible in epicenters and different measures will be implemented depending on the region within a country.
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EightBit Man
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Yes, they talk about Coronavirus in that video.
"Selected moments from the Event 201 pandemic tabletop exercise hosted by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated the pandemic preparedness efforts needed to diminish the large-scale economic and societal consequences of a severe pandemic."
I don't believe in the official narrative anymore. There has been an agenda behind this.
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ricardo_sousa11
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You're seriously comparing this situation to customer service?
Firing the very people you need the most right now, because they dont have the gear necessary to ensure their safety or the safety of their family.
You keep defending something I'm not quite sure what it is, but your political opinions are all screwed up. Everytime theres an article about something against the response of the government you try to defend it with silly arguements, and I dont understand why.
Im sure the doctors and nurses are just looking for their 15m of fame....not actual needs...yup, im pretty sure thats it!
Armorian
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crowbrow
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Like a specialist on the video mentioned, the potential for viral outbreaks has been increasing for decades and scientists have been warning for decades so that there are panels in some places discussing what to do with this is not really so strange. But mostly everyone have been turning their heads the other way and ignoring the warnings. Even now in the middle of the crisis people are dismissing those warnings and trying to point blame on a specific actor when everyone has been basically accomplice to this.
DunDunDunpachi
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But they're not being fired because they don't have the gear necessary. They're being fired because they're talking to the public about it. This results in panic, misinformation, and possibly a run on the services during a time when we need people to keep a level head.
Certainly the best outcome would be to have more than enough gear, obviously. But in lieu of that, complaining about lack of gear is going to cause its own problems. It certainly won't alleviate the problem, will it? You tell me. What is it supposed to solve?
Ah, well what hope do I have against this argument? You've clearly thought this through.
If you spent as much time reading as you do flippantly misconstruing someone else's points, you might even one day be able to hold an actual conversation! You'll get there. Keep trying.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Yeah, I want the Prince Charles version of vacationing in my castle in Scotland and be virus-free in a week.
ricardo_sousa11
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Because the governement doesnt provide it? Its obvious they need to speak to the public, if the governement isnt getting their message. Who else would they speak to?
You're delusional, move along.
crowbrow
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Hahaha you are one of the ones condemning China for shutting down health professionals during a crisis and now you're defending the same shit by your government. You can't make this shit up folks. "It's ok if we do it" lol
ricardo_sousa11
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They just want their 15m of fame! Corrupt doctors, want to bring down the government with their lies!
sigh..
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
When running a business you don't let the customers know that you're about to run out of something, or that your services are possibly compromised, nor do you let workers on the line speak for your "brand" in a time of crisis. People get fired for that under normal circumstances all the time. Like I already mentioned, people who have experience dealing with customers already understand this principle. To an outsider it might seem "unfair" but there are reasons behind it.
Don't tell me to "move along" when you failed to rise to the occasion.
Perhaps it escaped your grasp but hospitals =/= the government, and organ-vanning doctors who speak out =/= hospital staff complaining about lack of gear. Go ahead and keep dunking on your Little Tikes hoop while the rest of us discuss the topic.
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ricardo_sousa11
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Your delusion will ruin you one day. I'm not rising to anything speaking to you, its actually the other way around, im lowering myself, so imma stop that...I'm 6'2 its hard to get down to your level.
Tell me something, when you type "W", does your autocorrect automatically fill to "Wuhan virus"? Im pretty sure it does.
Halo is Back
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They wont fire them. They NEED the doctors now lmao
darkestdame
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The delusion is endlessly entertaining
crowbrow
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Sure is not the same "if we do it". In fact China can now use the same excuse "hey! we just wanted to avoid mass panic so we avoided disclosing information. Sorry about that but we felt it was necessary at the time. You know how that is sometimes right?".
crowbrow
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Probably not. China didn't fire the doctor either but he ended up dead from the virus anyways.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Thank you for stooping to discuss this with me but... you haven't said anything. You just call me delusional and the pack of hyenas laughs along with you, which is your goal anyway. Point and laugh without ever contributing anything.
I'm sure one day I'll be ruined. Your level of discourse is too lofty for me.
"I'm not defending China, but...."
Halo is Back
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And that is why doctors and nurses need our support
crowbrow
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And scientists, people have been dismissing serious scientific research for too long because it's not compatible with the economic system. Well we now see how those fucked up priorities end up, the world crumbling and economy in shatters because we were too focused on the economy and not on the important shit.
holygeesus
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Thought this was interesting...
Source: Guardian.
Why then are we seeing massive outbreaks now if 3/4 of the population have already had it?
Source: Guardian.
Why then are we seeing massive outbreaks now if 3/4 of the population have already had it?
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Malakhov
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It will be interesting to see the aftermath with the different approach from some countries but we will definitely not get rid of it while doing nothing
To be honest most patients are 60+ years old but there is a few in their thirties whom were in top shape as well. It's quite virulent and it's getting worst every day
DunDunDunpachi
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Just a few weeks ago when this was mentioned in the thread, people got shouted at and the notion that "millions have probably already had it" it was handwaved.
Ah well, it hasn't ever been easy talking the mob out of its own panic.
EDIT: to answer your edit as to why we are seeing outbreaks now, hard to say. The virus mutates and maybe this is the worst version of it. We are also at the height of the yearly flu season when people are already compromised and weakened.
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Aggelos
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Italian shoe designer, Sergio Rossi, dies aged 84
One of world’s most respected cordwainers may have died from coronavirus in Cesena
www.theguardian.com
The Italian footwear designer Sergio Rossi has died at the age of 84. Having been admitted to hospital a few days ago in Cesena, a city in Emilia-Romagna, one of the regions hardest hit by the coronavirus pandemic, it is being reported that he may have died from the disease.
Sergio Rossi - Wikipedia
Ovek
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684 more deaths in the UK bringing the total up to 3,605.
news.sky.com
Coronavirus: 684 more COVID-19 deaths in UK - bringing total to 3,605
The Midlands is catching up with the number of deaths in London, which has been the epicentre of the UK's epidemic.
news.sky.com
DeepEnigma
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No, because there is no "wand shortage". These are not kits, they are just the wands which can be produced all day everyday.
Roufianos
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684 more deaths in the UK bringing the total up to 3,605.
Coronavirus: 684 more COVID-19 deaths in UK - bringing total to 3,605
The Midlands is catching up with the number of deaths in London, which has been the epicentre of the UK's epidemic.
We're on track for more deaths than Italy. I remember the NHS advertising weeks ago that they were well prepared for an outbreak. Like fuck they were.
Ornlu
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Call me crazy, but someone who was a whistleblower in China tragically dying sounds like symptoms of an assisted suicide, not Covid-19.
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hariseldon
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Per million of population we're way behind Italy. So far no signs of NHS breakdown in terms of people not being able to get respirators etc unless you have proof otherwise - it's simply that the disease has reached people who are vulnerable to it. Hopefully the lockdown will slow the spread and that'll start showing over the next few weeks.
GamingKaiju
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The NHS is prepared to handle the number of cases but it cannot save them due to lack of treatment options. The only thing all hospitals can do is provide supportive care whilst your body fights the infection.
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crowbrow
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I don't discard that possibility but I wouldn't be surprised if he simply just died from the virus.Call me crazy, but someone who was a whistleblower in China tragically dying sounds like symptoms of an assisted suicide, not Covid-19.
womfalcs3
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My key takeaway from the graph is that the rate is still increasing. Even if it were constant, you'd still experience rising number of cases. So we're far off, globally.
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