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Doctors say India must prepare for an "onslaught" as crowded slum reports first coronavirus death

One of Asia's biggest slums has confirmed its first coronavirus death, leading top Indian doctors to warn that the country must prepare to face an "onslaught" of cases.

A 56-year-old man died in the Dharavi slum, in the Indian financial capital of Mumbai, on Wednesday. He had no travel history, and died hours after testing positive for the coronavirus while being transferred to a local hospital, a Mumbai city official told CNN.

Several of the man's family members have been tested and placed under home quarantine, and the block of 300 homes and 90 shops that make up his densely packed neighborhood have been sealed off to prevent further infections.

On Thursday, a 52-year-old sweeper who works for the city's Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation in Dharavi also tested positive.

A cluster in the slum could be disastrous. Home to about 1 million people, the Dharavi slum has a population density almost 30 times greater than New York City -- about 280,000 people per square kilometer.

Doctors say the situation would be unmanageable if a sustained outbreak spread rapidly through one of India's many slums, where there is little sanitation or running water and thousands of people live cheek by jowl -- making social distancing physically and economically impossible.

Doctors say India must prepare for an "onslaught" as crowded slum reports first coronavirus death

One of Asia's biggest slums has confirmed its first coronavirus death, leading top Indian doctors to warn that the country must prepare to face an "onslaught" of cases.

www.cnn.com

India is the worst case scenario if it really spreads.. And if someone is already dying its likely too late.

Population like China but not evil enough to do what's needed to stop this. Yikes. I'd hope we'd get good numbers from them but probably impossible to get an accurate # of tests.

Everyone wear masks
Stop all travel
Lock it down
???
Profit

 

[Shouta]

Not sure if it's been posted but this video shows how micro-droplets and how they float around.

 

[Kazza]

 

[12Goblins]

Nope, they protect everybody.

They limit the amount of germs being spread, but a face mask will not protect you from contracting the virus.

 

[Raven117]

Doctors say India must prepare for an "onslaught" as crowded slum reports first coronavirus death

One of Asia's biggest slums has confirmed its first coronavirus death, leading top Indian doctors to warn that the country must prepare to face an "onslaught" of cases.

A 56-year-old man died in the Dharavi slum, in the Indian financial capital of Mumbai, on Wednesday. He had no travel history, and died hours after testing positive for the coronavirus while being transferred to a local hospital, a Mumbai city official told CNN.

Several of the man's family members have been tested and placed under home quarantine, and the block of 300 homes and 90 shops that make up his densely packed neighborhood have been sealed off to prevent further infections.

On Thursday, a 52-year-old sweeper who works for the city's Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation in Dharavi also tested positive.

A cluster in the slum could be disastrous. Home to about 1 million people, the Dharavi slum has a population density almost 30 times greater than New York City -- about 280,000 people per square kilometer.

Doctors say the situation would be unmanageable if a sustained outbreak spread rapidly through one of India's many slums, where there is little sanitation or running water and thousands of people live cheek by jowl -- making social distancing physically and economically impossible.

Doctors say India must prepare for an "onslaught" as crowded slum reports first coronavirus death

One of Asia's biggest slums has confirmed its first coronavirus death, leading top Indian doctors to warn that the country must prepare to face an "onslaught" of cases.

www.cnn.com

More spring breakers diagnosed with coronavirus


A total of 49 of the 211 students from the University of Texas at Austin who traveled to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, for spring break have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to a statement from the university.
They went on the March 14-19 trip against the advice of White House officials who asked that people avoid gathering in groups of more than 10, and refrain from nonessential air travel.
Texas House Speaker Dennis Bonnen had a blunt message for the spring breakers.

As some of the spring breakers took commercial flights home, public health officials said dozens of other passengers are being monitored.
The students who tested positive are in self-isolation, health officials said. The Department of State Health Services has been alerted.

More spring breakers diagnosed with coronavirus

A total of 49 of the 211 students from the University of Texas at Austin who traveled to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, for spring break have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to a statement from the university.

www.cnn.com

If there is widespread community spread in India (which their likely already is), it will make Italy look like a garden party. (Same with most of the 3rd world...their healthcare systems just aren’t equipped for it.... and won’t be without international help).

 

[Jtibh]

 

[Kazza]

Some good news for the UK (well, London anyway):

The new 4,000-bed Nightingale emergency hospital in London was opened by Prince Charles via videolink on Friday, but it is hoped it will not be needed as urgently as previously thought because hospitals in the capital are coping better with the coronavirus. A week ago it had been thought that intensive care units in London would be overflowing by this point, but political sources said they had been told the capital’s hospitals were three-quarters full, which is better than expected. In a highly praised high-speed build involving an unprecedented partnership between the NHS and the Ministry of Defence, the vast ExCeL conference centre in east London has been converted into a hospital, ready to take up to 500 patients in the first wave.

But while the emergency capacity had been expected to be required as soon as last Wednesday, the first patients are now likely to arrive early next week – a tentative sign that the coronavirus outbreak in the capital may not be as bad as expected.

Nightingale emergency coronavirus hospital may not be needed as urgently as expected

London’s intensive care units were expected to be overflowing at this point but are only three-quarters full

www.theguardian.com

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Nope, they protect everybody.

can you even order any masks online?

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[Jtibh]

 

[EviLore]

Bill Gates is spending billions on simultaneous vaccine research, just to get us to the finish line a little faster:

Bill Gates is helping fund new factories for 7 potential coronavirus vaccines, even though it will waste billions of dollars

Bill Gates had previously said a coronavirus vaccine could be developed in 18 months.

www.businessinsider.com.au

 

[Smiles and Cries]

toilet paper and 98% of us left

 

[oatmeal]

I’m stoked I don’t get this reference.

 

[Ma-Yuan]

I can feel you.

Had to shop something with my family. Wife, 3,5 year old kid and 6 month baby. We went out with masks. I even cleaned the handles of the shopping cart with alcohol before putting it back and then one woman came up to me and complained why I go shopping with my family we would make everyone sick.
I should go alone. I mean the baby isn't moving anywhere and my older son was sitting in a kids shopping cart also not doing anything. It was basically the highlight for him of the week since we are stuck home.

Of all the people who had no masks not clean anything they touched she picked me. My wife thinks because she is Asian and I tend to agree. Also according to her cleaning something with alcohol and disinfectant doesn't help.

Was really pissed.

Went to the grocery store today.

Shelves are empty.

Got to the cashier counter with what I could get and started putting my groceries on the conveyer.

Lady in front of me with one item in a shopping cart (one pineapple) started yelling at me and making a scene, telling me to step back and that I should be ten feet away.

I ignored her and just kept putting my groceries on the conveyer. I didn't want to contribute in making a scene with a raving fucking loon.

She started yelling at the cashier about me, calling me a psychopath, etc. Cashier just told her "let it go" or was trying to shrug it off.

People are fucking insane. I expected something like this to happen. It sucks because I have to do the shopping and I'm in no mood for crazy.

Man I've just seen the worst in people mostly (and a handful of really good though) in my experience.

With 911 people were mostly cool but then that wasn't a virus.

 

[oatmeal]

Not sure if it's been posted but this video shows how micro-droplets and how they float around.

If someone ever catches me sneezing like that, I give them full permission to kill me.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Married for 51 years, they died six minutes apart
From CNN's Harmeet Kaur

Before just a few weeks ago, Stuart and Adrian Baker were perfectly healthy.

The inseparable couple had been married for more than 51 years and were living in Boynton Beach, Florida, in retirement. Neither of them had any serious health conditions.

Then in mid-March, they started feeling ill.

On Sunday, they both died -- six minutes apart -- due to complications from Covid-19, their son Buddy Baker said.

Stuart Baker was 74. Adrian Baker was 72.

The three weeks from infection to death: About three weeks ago, Stuart and Adrian went to the doctor because they weren't feeling well, according to Buddy. They were eventually sent home.

A few days later, their symptoms still hadn't improved so their doctor recommended that they visit the hospital. They were also sent home and told to self-quarantine.

After a few more days, on March 19, they were told to return to the hospital. Baker's father, who had a fever and asthma, was admitted. His mother, who did not have a fever, was not.

On March 24, the hospital called -- Stuart had tested positive for Covid-19 and the doctor said it didn't look like he would make it.

Buddy and his sister decided to take their mother to the hospital as a precautionary measure. Within 45 minutes of their mother being checked in, the doctor called to report that her oxygen levels were very low.

Buddy said he and his sister decided to move their parents to hospice care at the counsel of medical professionals. His mother and father were moved to the same room and taken off ventilators to be comfortable. Within minutes of each other, they had passed.

Married for 51 years, they died six minutes apart

Before just a few weeks ago, Stuart and Adrian Baker were perfectly healthy.

www.cnn.com

 

[Smiles and Cries]

WWII vet beat Covid-19 and turned 104 in the same week
From CNN's David Williams

Bill Lapschies and his family have a lot to celebrate. The Oregon veteran has recovered from Covid-19 -- and he just celebrated his 104th birthday.
Visitors aren't allowed inside the Edward C. Allworth Veterans' Home in Lebanon because of statewide restrictions, but they were able to have a small celebration outside.
Staff brought him out to a patio in a wheelchair on Wednesday. His loved ones held signs, waved and blew kisses from a safe distance.
His daughter Carolee Brown told CNN affiliate KOIN that it wasn't how they had planned to celebrate his big day.

"We celebrated his 101 and had over 200 people. So trying to keep our social distancing and do what Governor [Kate] Brown has asked us to do," she told KOIN. "But we're so thrilled he's recovered from this and we just had to do something for him."

State Gov. Kate Brown also sent birthday wishes on Facebook.

WWII vet beat Covid-19 and turned 104 in the same week

Bill Lapschies and his family have a lot to celebrate. The Oregon veteran has recovered from Covid-19 -- and he just celebrated his 104th birthday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Smiles and Cries]

 

[Pasedo]

Dude, you give them way too much credit. They are just as fucked as the rest of the world, if not more, with this virus. Sure, they are ordering people back to work, but there isn't much work to be done for a lot of them and they are sure to see huge re-flare ups of the virus throughout the country wherever they ease their lockdowns.

Don't know man.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. - Sun Tzu.

 

[Jtibh]

Going to hit the bed.
Just wanted to thank all of you for your dedication in this thread.
The daily realtime updates and information provided here are very helpful to keep track on these sad events.
We are only at the very beginning of this outbreak so there is a lot of work ahead of us.

At the end of each day i feel i am ahead of most people and i can share the knowledge gained from this thread with my friends and family.
As you guys, ladies know there are still a lot of people out there that dont take this serious or fall for dissinformation but
the diversity and debates in here help me find the right information for the right person, maybe change their opinions or just get them to be more open minded.

Stay safe wash your hands and dont fall for the liars who tell you kleenex is just as good as TP. Its not, i tried...and failed.

 

[crowbrow]

It's bullshit - the rural area I'm in now has a very large population of black Americans and they were buying loads of it all too.



Come on, who wouldn't want to have open heart surgery in this state-of-the-art hospital?

I hear the regime said that bits of old moldy ceiling tiles falling into your chest cavity promote good outcomes. Clearly it must be true - they would never lie.

It has first world health statistics with a decades old commercial blockade and third world installations. Maybe if the United States would stop their BS and criminal commercial blockade to the island they would fair even better and have better equipment.

 

[DragoonKain]

I can’t find regular syrup anywhere near me and I’m running out. I stocked up on waffles, dammit need mah syrup!

 

[Joe T.]

Had Tucker Carlson in the background earlier tonight and an interesting line caught my attention (while he was taking a flamethrower to Fauci) - the IMHE projections are fairly close in terms of deaths, but they wildly overestimated hospitalizations.

The projection for New York state on this day was between 47,753 and 78,012 beds and the current number being reported is 14,810 (source: nymag.com). I could only find a cumulative number for New Jersey (around 4,800), but they overestimated expectations by a decent amount there, too (6,189 up to 10,637).

Might help explain why the Navy hospital ship barely has any patients on board.

 

[Grinchy]

I can’t find regular syrup anywhere near me and I’m running out. I stocked up on waffles, dammit need mah syrup!

Make a simplified version of your own at home!

Homemade Maple Syrup

This homemade maple syrup tastes just like the real thing, is perfect over pancakes and waffles, and is made with 4 simple ingredients in 10 minutes.

www.allrecipes.com

Sometimes that shit tastes way better than the flavored corn syrup from the store.

 

[hariseldon]

A quick question for those complaining that their government has not done enough: what have you done? I’ve purchased 80kg of food and delivered it to local orgs looking after the vulnerable in the last week. I am not rich. I will be doing this once a month, supplies and employment permitting.

Oh and I persuaded my employer to top up furlough money so staff don’t lose out. Not sure if that counts though.

Before complaining that others have not done enough, we should do more.

 

[paparazzo]

They limit the amount of germs being spread, but a face mask will not protect you from contracting the virus.

Guess you didn't watch the video, but at 3:25 he cites an NYT article explaining how masks prevent you from getting a higher viral load, meaning the difference between a mild case and a serious case. Sure, it's not 100% immunity but if it's the difference between normal flu-like symptoms or the ICU, it wouldn't be smart to go without. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

can you even order any masks online?

I ordered some cotton ones that have room for a filter from a local clothing store that only sells them to locals and is donating masks to hospitals. Might not be as good as N95s but much better than nothing. You might try Googling cotton face masks for sale in your area.

 

[hariseldon]

Guess you didn't watch the video, but at 3:25 he cites an NYT article explaining how masks prevent you from getting a higher viral load, meaning the difference between a mild case and a serious case. Sure, it's not 100% immunity but if it's the difference between normal flu-like symptoms or the ICU, it wouldn't be smart to go without. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.


I ordered some cotton ones that have room for a filter from a local clothing store that only sells them to locals and is donating masks to hospitals. Might not be as good as N95s but much better than nothing. You might try Googling cotton face masks for sale in your area.

I can’t get hold of anything so I’ve ordered some heavy cotton and plan to make a couple for me and my wife.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Had Tucker Carlson in the background earlier tonight and an interesting line caught my attention (while he was taking a flamethrower to Fauci) - the IMHE projections are fairly close in terms of deaths, but they wildly overestimated hospitalizations.

The projection for New York state on this day was between 47,753 and 78,012 beds and the current number being reported is 14,810 (source: nymag.com). I could only find a cumulative number for New Jersey (around 4,800), but they overestimated expectations by a decent amount there, too (6,189 up to 10,637).

Might help explain why the Navy hospital ship barely has any patients on board.

That's great news - that means our response has been more than sufficient, health system-wise.

 

[E-Cat]

Bill Gates is spending billions on simultaneous vaccine research, just to get us to the finish line a little faster:

Bill Gates is helping fund new factories for 7 potential coronavirus vaccines, even though it will waste billions of dollars

Bill Gates had previously said a coronavirus vaccine could be developed in 18 months.

www.businessinsider.com.au

Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos had a meeting to discuss how to best smear a warehouse worker who demanded a safe workplace for his colleagues - priorities, I guess.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Yesterday's record?

so far today

Italy vs Spain

Coronavirus Update (Live): 131,897,800 Cases and 2,865,517 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Scopa]

Italy vs Spain

 

[hariseldon]

 

[E-Cat]

I'm saying that no matter how many people are being tested, there doesn't seem to be a dramatic increase in the ratio of positive to negative results, unless I'm missing something.

In your example of 100% growth rate in which the total number of infected doubles every day with a hypothetical population of 1000 in which everyone is tested every day, isn't this how it would break down?

Day 1: 1/1000 infected = 0.1% of population (0.1% new infection rate)
Day 2: 2/1000 infected = 0.2% of population (0.1% new infection rate)
Day 3: 4/1000 infected = 0.4% of population (0.2% new infection rate)
Day 4: 16/1000 infected = 1.6% of population (1.2% new infection rate)
Day 5: 32/1000 infected = 3.2% of population (1.6% new infection rate)
Day 6: 64/1000 infected = 6.4% of population (3.2% new infection rate)
Day 7: 128/1000 infected = 12.8% of population (6.4% new infection rate)
Day 8: 256/1000 infected = 25.6% of population (12.8% new infection rate)
Day 9: 512/1000 infected = 51.2% of population (25.6% new infection rate)

While obviously the real world will never mirror this and the same group of people are not being tested every day, but wouldn't we still need to see a similar kind of climb in "new infection rate" (positive to negative ratio for tests performed that day) for the total numbers to also be growing exponentially?

Hopefully someone smarter about this stuff can take the time to explain it.

A while ago, @Zefah was wondering that, if the number of infections proceeds exponentially, then why aren't we seeing similarly exponential growth in the percentage of positive cases of those being tested.

Well, we are seeing that now (though it's still 'linear growth', I guess):

 

[Armorian]

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Just the Flu Bro(tm)

 

[RSB]

Italy vs Spain

I'll post this again:

 

[E-Cat]

Had Tucker Carlson in the background earlier tonight and an interesting line caught my attention (while he was taking a flamethrower to Fauci) - the IMHE projections are fairly close in terms of deaths, but they wildly overestimated hospitalizations.

The projection for New York state on this day was between 47,753 and 78,012 beds and the current number being reported is 14,810 (source: nymag.com). I could only find a cumulative number for New Jersey (around 4,800), but they overestimated expectations by a decent amount there, too (6,189 up to 10,637).

Might help explain why the Navy hospital ship barely has any patients on board.

If the current number of hospitalizations in NY is 14,180, then it should already exceed the capacity of available hospital beds according to IMHE's figure, which is 13,010. So, it looks like the data is outdated.

Another, more conservative model (https://covidactnow.org/us/ny) claims a total of 43,490 available beds in NY, which should be overloaded by either Apr 9 or 11, depending on strict/poor compliance of the stay at home order. The model projects 27,016 hospitalizations today (Apr 4), so it might still be a bit high.

Another difference is that IMHE projects peak hospitalizations to occur by Apr 10, whereas covidactnow.org is more trending towards the middle of May. Based on the available data, I tend to agree with the latter model.

 

[sinnergy]

Just the Flu Bro(tm)

I blame governments for creating just the flu, if they where honest when this started and not downplay it as flu, this is the result. People also would have been more careful.

But it is what it is now.

 

[RSB]

Holy shit.

 

[Armorian]

Holy shit.

It will only get worse...

 

[nush]

My wife thinks because she is Asian and I tend to agree.

True, and the polar opposite is foreigners in China are being treated the same or even worse.

 

[Scopa]

 

[eot]

Had Tucker Carlson in the background earlier tonight and an interesting line caught my attention (while he was taking a flamethrower to Fauci) - the IMHE projections are fairly close in terms of deaths, but they wildly overestimated hospitalizations.

The projection for New York state on this day was between 47,753 and 78,012 beds and the current number being reported is 14,810 (source: nymag.com). I could only find a cumulative number for New Jersey (around 4,800), but they overestimated expectations by a decent amount there, too (6,189 up to 10,637).

Might help explain why the Navy hospital ship barely has any patients on board.

The ship doesn't house COVID-19 patients, it's not set up to handle infectious diseases. It's meant to free up other beds. If that's not happening I'd wager it's more likely a coordination issue than anything else.

 

[hariseldon]

Spain and Italy have been abandoned by the EU

If ever there was a time for the EU to show the benefit of belonging to an economic bloc with coherent cross-border cooperation you would think it would be now. But that is not quite how things are working out. On the contrary, the EU has erupted into open warfare between north and south. The

www.spectator.co.uk

Spain and Italy have been abandoned by the EU

If ever there was a time for the EU to show the benefit of belonging to an economic bloc with coherent cross-border cooperation you would think it would be now. But that is not quite how things are working out. On the contrary, the EU has erupted into open warfare between north and south. The rifts caused by the 2008/09 financial crisis have been torn open again, with Italy and Spain desperately pleading for help from a reluctant Germany and other northern countries.

If anyone thought harmony would reign once troublesome Britain was out of the EU, there was not much evidence of it at a virtual summit held last week to discuss the coronavirus crisis. Italy and Spain pleaded for an EU ‘Marshall Plan’ to lift their already flagging economies, which have never fully recovered from the sovereign debt crisis which followed the last recession. But they were rebuffed by Germany and the Netherlands. They also asked for ‘coronabonds’ to fund the recovery from the crisis, only for that to be dismissed, too. Angela Merkel insisted that Italy and Spain, both deeply damaged from three weeks’ lockdown, apply instead to the European Stability Mechanism, which southern countries blame for the depth of Greece’s problems ten years ago. ‘If what you’re waiting for is coronabonds, they’re never going to arrive,’ she reportedly told the Italians and Spanish. Ouch!

Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez was especially upset, refusing to sign the joint declaration reportedly with the words: ‘I cannot accept this vague language or this talk about several weeks, when my country is in the grip of a health emergency. We have asked for a common unemployment insurance and you’re not giving it to me.’ Addressing his citizens the next day he caused surprise by telling them the EU had been too little and too late with help after the 2008/09 crisis – and that it ‘must not fail’ this time.

Unlike Britain, Spain and Italy cannot quantitatively-ease their way out of this crisis because, as members of the Euro, the control of their money supply is in the hands of the European Central Bank. It’s President, Christine Lagarde, at one point seemed to dismiss the idea that this crisis had anything to do with her or her bank.

Three weeks ago Guy Verhofstadt scorned Donald Trump for imposing a ban on flights from the Schengen area, which covers most of the EU, saying it had been imposed unnecessarily and without discussion with the EU. He failed to notice that at the same time many EU states were imposing unilateral Schengen-busting travel bans of their own.

Many have been caught out by the Covid-19 crisis, but no institution has been left looking quite so helpless as the EU. One feels it is sorely missing a common enemy – ie Britain – to help keep it together.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

Holy shit.

Saw this yesterday, well...they did flatten the curve.

Also, found this pretty scary, Im not sure if these are all commercial, although they could be empty, the US has the highest density of flights in the world (this is right now).

Highest density seems to be Florida, I wonder if this is still due to the spring breakers.

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[VertigoOA]

I have a good amount n95 masks...

Made sure to by a bunch when idiots were saying no need to almost two months ago now...

Never listen to flu bro’s...

 

[Cunth]

Not sure if it's been posted but this video shows how micro-droplets and how they float around.

damn that shits gross

 

[GamingKaiju]

Welp UK's figures are not encouraging things are only going to get worse over the next few weeks. I suspect the 3 week lock-down will be extended but if the figures haven't improved after the extension I can see public opinion changing to "Fuck it! Unleash the beast"

Spain and Italy have been abandoned by the EU

If ever there was a time for the EU to show the benefit of belonging to an economic bloc with coherent cross-border cooperation you would think it would be now. But that is not quite how things are working out. On the contrary, the EU has erupted into open warfare between north and south. The

www.spectator.co.uk

The EU has been silent since the outbreak, Italy and Spain are on their knees wanting help from their supposed EU partners but they have stayed silent, it's every Country for it's self atm I fear the EU is done for after this crisis this will be the straw that break's the EU.

The last line got me though:

Many have been caught out by the Covid-19 crisis, but no institution has been left looking quite so helpless as the EU. One feels it is sorely missing a common enemy – ie Britain – to help keep it together.

Laughs in British.

 

[T8SC]

UK hospital warns of 'critical incident'
A critical incident has been declared at Watford General Hospital to the north of London.
West Herts NHS Trust is urging people to go to other hospitals "even in an emergency". Those with non-urgent issues are being told to call 111.
A statement will be issued by the hospital shortly.