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[Pasedo]

Hoping our tech geniuses on here can chime in as it would be good to read about the technical arguments. But based on what we know about Ps5 and XSX and how their designs might change the way future games are made. Could these games still be ported over to the Switch at a marketed level. I mean the Witcher 3 just ported over and I feel this has hit its full limits. What chance do Switch owners really have to see next gen ports without another hardware upgrade? I think one argument from what I've understood is that these new hardware designs will only be taken advantage of in 1st party titles. But as most games need to be designed to the restriction of PC compatibility this will probably continue to hold back most next gen 3rd party games. So I imagine next gen 3rd party games will continue to come with the usual sacrifices but would be interesting to learn if the Switch could still handle any of the future techniques well see.

 

[Aidah]

What is the percentage of current gen PS4/XB games that are considered relatively demanding and make it to Switch anyway?

Also, what do you consider next-gen games? Is cross-gen next-gen?

Anyway, I think if cross-gen games are still going to look and run decently on PS4/XB1, then it's doable. If they're barely passable, then not. Obviously next gen only games that PS/XB1 can't run aren't going to run on Switch either.

 

[Bakkus]

Definitely not. I expect an type of upgrade to happen to Switch within the next few years.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

No. Make a poll.

 

[Shaqazooloo]

Virtuous and Panic Button are going to be porting Next-gen titles to Switch so I guess it can.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Switch? Nope.
Switch Pro? Yep.

 

[Elektro Demon]

At 240p, 20 fps, sure.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Only cross-gen games. But even from current gen the Switch has gotten like a handful of ports, so who cares.

 

[Stuart360]

It can barely manage current gen games without massive cutbacks.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

They couldn't handle last gen's Saint's Row 3

 

[Stefan.North]

I don't think even getting a Switch Pro model would help it look good compared to XSX and PS5

 

[Kamina]

Obvioulsy there will be a new Switch next year

 

[lachesis]

No for Switch, and also no for Switch Pro, as long as "pro" model keeps portability.

But Nintendo will be fine. In fact, they will thrive on their own and keep on printing $$$ - just like they did with GBA, DS, 3DS.

 

[Lukin1978]

I think they would need a 4 tflop Switch pro to have decent ports next gen.

 

[93xfan]

I think they would need a 4 tflop Switch pro to have decent ports next gen.

I think the CPU may be the limiting factor.

 

[nordique]

Depends on whether or not it can handle the appropriate engines

 

[Zannegan]

Their CPUs are going to be so much more powerful, I don't see how. Even the rumored Lockheart is keeping the same CPU, right? I'm not sure you can reasonably expect even a Switch successor to keep up if it releases in a mobile form factor in the next year or two.

 

[existensmaximum]

The Switch will pretty much have its own generation. And it will be fine.

 

[TLZ]

The SSDs alone will make the Switch so archaic, in addition to the very bad and low res graphics.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Switch? Nope.
Switch Pro? Yep.

There's no such thing as a Switch Pro and zero evidence that one will ever exist.

 

[BusierDonkey]

It couldn't handle this gen's multiplats, forget next gen. Nobody in their right mind is expecting a system with a this for a motherboard to be able to run with the upcoming systems.

Despite that, I find a lot of Switch games to look great. I run everything at max on my PC and have no issue switching inputs from that to my Switch on my monitor. Luigi's mansion is a great example of a game catered perfectly to the hardware. As long as games like BotW, Mario Odyssey, Astral Chain, Xenoblade, Animal Crossing, etc keep coming I’m fine with the performance. I still played 3DS games until recently and that system’s games looked awful compared to the Dreamcast.

 

[Trilobit]

I remember hearing that Switch was sort of in half-time now, so in 3 years I expect Switch 2, which will be to PS5 and XSX what Switch is to current gen now. It seems like a sweet spot for their hybrid console.

 

[Stilton Disco]

Indie games and crossgen, sure.

Actual next gen only games that wont even be able to run on the PS4/XO? Fuck no.

 

[Romulus]

I wouldn't even say it handles current gen games. Everything they've attempted looked like ass/and or poor framerate.

 

[MagnesG]

We need some examples of the games, is it some AAA games? No.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Nope.

I still want a Switch.

If I get the stimulated check, I plan on buying one.

They'll probably be impossible to find.

 

[GymWolf]

dependes if you wanna play at 15frames and with 20 years old resolutions.

 

[M1chl]

dependes if you wanna play at 15frames and with 20 years old resolutions.

You mean like Doom 3/ Wolfenstein II?

 

[UnNamed]

Switch have a shitty CPU for today standard. Don't want to figure what it would be for tomorrow standard.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

The majority of next-gen games are going to be indies.

So yes.

 

[JordanN]

They technically ported PS3/360 games to the DS,

But it also looked like this.

Spoiler

I had fun with it though.

But seriously though, if Switch is basically a 360 on steroids and the Xbox Series X is 60 times more powerful than that, then yeah, it's not going to be close...

 

[KungFucius]

This is silly. The switch is what it is and its good at it. It may get ports of lower tech games like cartoony JRPGs and early cross gen games that still need to run on shitty PCs, but there is no way in hell it will get an actual port of a AAA title mid gen.

 

[GymWolf]

You mean like Doom 3/ Wolfenstein II?

no i mean what op asked, "nextgen games".

and doom\wolfenstein looks like shit on switch (not in a absolute way of course, it's still nice and a technical marvel seeing these games on an outdated tablet), so no chance for switch to run nextgen game without another step down in framerates and resolution.

 

[M1chl]

no i mean what op asked, "nextgen games".

and doom\wolfenstein looks like absolute shit on switch (not in a absolute way of course, it's still nice and a technical marvel seeing these games on an outdated tablet), so no chance for switch to run nextgen game without another step down in framerates and resolution.

My point is that already happening and we haven't seen any next-gen games. So probably you meant running in 0.1fps at 240p...

 

[GymWolf]

My point is that already happening and we haven't seen any next-gen games. So probably you meant running in 0.1fps at 240p...

well i don't know how much lower the resolution and framerates can get before devs renounce all together on porting heavy stuff on switch or even switch 2.

 

[M1chl]

well i don't know how much lower resolution and framerates can get before devs renounce all together on porting heavy stuff on switch or even switch 2.

Sure, because a lot of times those switch ports feels like "just because you can, does not mean you should"...

 

[cireza]

Does the Switch handle current gen games ?

 

[JordanN]

Even if developers could port their next gen projects to Switch, the bigger question is "why"?

Nintendo's third party support has been a disaster since the N64. Playstation, PC & Xbox always had the lionshare outside of family/kids titles or Japanese games.
The profit incentive was never there without counting the obvious exceptions.

We got third party games on GBA/DS because they were cheap to make and mobile phones also weren't a thing. But adding Switch to your PS5/XSX project is just another sunk cost.

 

[Ballthyrm]

It's does not matter.

The switch barely gets any support from the AAA developers anyways.
It will continue to run all the amazing Indie games and the first party Nintendo games.

That's all people care about , people who want modern next gen games on Nintendo consoles are deluded.
You have to go back to N64 as JordanN said.

 

[PocoJoe]

Dude, switch cant even handle current gen games and barely handles last gen games, so what you think?

(Witcher 3 and some other current gen games just arent what they meant to be on switch, yes they barely run on it with ridiculously low res, but it doesnt count as "switch can run current gen games")

It can handle ps3/360/wiiu games with high enough resolution + frame rates and thats about it.

That is the reality.

Switch is like 1/10 to 1/8 of PS4 in performance wise so it is not even fair to compare it to current gen. as it is just a handheld with tv out in the end.

To make Switch like hybrid that can really HANDLE next gen games, aka at least 1080p + 30 fps with 50% of next gen "graphics", switch2 would have to be maybe 20-30x of what it currently is in performance, aka 2-3x PS4 and that is not going to happen, if we are lucky "switch2" will be at ps4 level

 

[Coolwhhip]

Switch 2 will be able to handle them at 20 fps and 900p. That's the Nintendo 3rd party world we are stuck in.

 

[Bankai]

Sure it can, 240p@30 all the way.

 

[Birdo]

It only just handles Wii-U ports....

 

[Rat Rage]

Question is: does it want to, does it need to. Next gen doesn't automatically mean "better" gamers. So as long as Swtich continues got get awesome first party/exclusive games, it'll be fine.

 

[hunthunt]

It would can in the same sense as Nintendo Ds can load Tony Hawks and Burnout

 

[Gamernyc78]

Hoping our tech geniuses on here can chime in as it would be good to read about the technical arguments. But based on what we know about Ps5 and XSX and how their designs might change the way future games are made. Could these games still be ported over to the Switch at a marketed level. I mean the Witcher 3 just ported over and I feel this has hit its full limits. What chance do Switch owners really have to see next gen ports without another hardware upgrade? I think one argument from what I've understood is that these new hardware designs will only be taken advantage of in 1st party titles. But as most games need to be designed to the restriction of PC compatibility this will probably continue to hold back most next gen 3rd party games. So I imagine next gen 3rd party games will continue to come with the usual sacrifices but would be interesting to learn if the Switch could still handle any of the future techniques well see.

Yes and no, psv and nextbox Tetris or some non graphically taxing game. Anything else would have to be seriously dumbed down and many games out right wouldn't work.

 

[Radical_3d]

You still have to make the low settings PC version, don’t you?

 

[JordanN]

You still have to make the low settings PC version, don’t you?

PS4/XBO were already equal to low settings this generation....

In fact, I even remember the generation before that, PS3/360 were also given the same treatment (although it was near the end of its life).

 

[Vawn]

In the same way it "handles" current gen games.

My advice - don't play AAA multi-platform games on Switch.

 

[Radical_3d]

PS4/XBO were already equal to low settings this generation....

I’d say medium but I won’t argue with that. And there is that Witcher 3 port to Switch. There are always lower settings.