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[Dirk Benedict]

Some of the memes out there, holy fuck xD

I haven't spoiled myself too much, but if this is accurate, hooo boy. Owning the game for it's caliber of story will no longer be a thing, but instead owning it for the WTF-Shock Value is where it's at, now. This could go down in history as a massive disappointment.

 

[siekro1983]

I won't browse 50+ pages to see if this was posted but that's hillarious

man I actually am glad they went this direction with tlou 2, wouldn't buy the game either way but the memes are 10/10

joel was the best character naughty Dog ever made. let's replace him with a the crappiest character ever that no one can relate too. it's nice role model for girls that wanna be a trans man.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Everyone who hates the story of Joel dying and this game being heavy in female characters, part 3 will likely be no different. It's Ellie and Abby again unless Druckmann wants to do another big plot twist. So unless Ellie meets some new NPC characters which are guys to join her finding Abby in part 3, that future game i going to be all females again, but maybe a year or two older.

I haven't spoiled myself too much, but if this is accurate, hooo boy. Owning the game for it's caliber of story will no longer be a thing, but instead owning it for the WTF-Shock Value is where it's at, now. This could go down in history as a massive disappointment.

There's another one of these somewhere which is funny too. The bottom right comment in that one says something like...... Let's Ellie live just to show she's nothing.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Edit.

 

[zeorhymer]

What's super bad PR is that Sony and ND is claiming/striking videos that are talking about the leaks. They even went so far to strike Geeks and Gamers live stream. A live stream where the guy just chats with people. No images, no vids, just him talking. That's beyond Picard facepalm.

 

[Ulysses 31]

I won't browse 50+ pages to see if this was posted but that's hillarious

man I actually am glad they went this direction with tlou 2, wouldn't buy the game either way but the memes are 10/10

Has it been leaked how Abby got the drop on Joel? Did she beat him in a one on one?

 

[Jayjayhd34]

What's super bad PR is that Sony and ND is claiming/striking videos that are talking about the leaks. They even went so far to strike Geeks and Gamers live stream. A live stream where the guy just chats with people. No images, no vids, just him talking. That's beyond Picard facepalm.

Yeah it's trashy of them. Any takedown is just pointless now it's out there now they just have to accept it let the gaming community decide rather than pissing of the people who going to potentially review there game. People are going to be paying attention to lot smaller YouTube reviewers.

 

[cormack12]

Has it been leaked how Abby got the drop on Joel? Did she beat him in a one on one?

Don't think it disclosed yet. But given there are like 3/4 other people and Tommy is already on the floor it's doubtful.

 

[HotPocket69]

Don't think it disclosed yet. But given there are like 3/4 other people and Tommy is already on the floor it's doubtful.

Yeah it’s a group beating and Abby gets the final blow.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Let's hope japanese will come to their senses and take back playstation hq to japan lmao

Has it been leaked how Abby got the drop on Joel? Did she beat him in a one on one?

One leak wrote Joel died from laughter.

 

[Croatoan]

It's not a man lol. It would actually make a lot of sense that a woman could be juiced to the gills in this universe. Look up crossfit women.

Two cross fit women that are ripped as shit and still look like women. Which abby doesn't. Your point sucks when it is so easily debunked.

 

[DForce]

Has it been leaked how Abby got the drop on Joel? Did she beat him in a one on one?

If I had to connect the dots and make some guesses.

- They've been searching for Joel for years
- They knew he's Tommy's brother.
- Tommy gets kidnapped to lure Joel.
- It was reported late 2019 that Ellie was on her way to rescue Tommy during one of the missions.
- At the end of the 2019 trailer where Joel says, "Do you think you were going to do this on your own?"
- Ellie and Joel are separated
- Ellie finds Joel and Tommy in the room with Abby and the others

 

[decisions]

I remember thinking, “Man I wonder why Bruce Straley left?”

LOL

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Two cross fit women that are ripped as shit and still look like women. Which abby doesn't. Your point sucks when it is so easily debunked.

Cut there hair and I would argue there's not much difference. However all three are unattractive even with/without the hair to me but that's subjective.

 

[Ogbert]

@ Ogbert Ogbert is making the mistake many make: portrayal is not endorsement, certainly not celebration.

Oh, of course. It's not endorsement. Perhaps, in that regard, *celebrate* is the wrong word.

I do think however, it demonstrates how simplistic and feeble Naughty Dog's idea of what a strong women is. They, like pretty much the entire output of Marvel, are far too literal. How do we make women stronger? Well, we turn them into men. We show them caving in other women's faces. We let the blood spray across the floor. Now we'll take them seriously.

It's not, in and of itself, especially wrong. As you suggest, women are capable of grotesque violence.

What is pathetic is that it's being painted as a sign of strength. Almost aspirational.

 

[decisions]

Cut there hair and I would argue there's not much difference. However all three are unattractive even with/without the hair to me but that's subjective.

Dude Abby’s arms look about three times the size of both of theirs. Come on now Abby’s physique IN AN APOCALYPSE is just weird.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

Yeah. I know a chick that was really fit. She used to pick me up like nothing. She looked like a female though. Abby doesn't look like a buff chick. She looks like a buff dude.

 

[Croatoan]

Cut there hair and I would argue there's not much difference. However all three are unattractive even with/without the hair to me but that's subjective.

If you think those two have unattractive faces then you must have REALLY high standards. They both have obvious feminine bone structure as well. Abby is modeled to look like a man in all aspects because that fits Druckman's political narrative.

I can understand not being attracted to overly buff chicks, as I find them really unappealing as well, but those two have pretty faces for sure.

 

[ruvikx]

That final boss scene sounds terrible.

There will be a few people (i.e. real believers in The Last of Us franchise) who're defending Naughty Dog & Druckmann right now against all criticism (+ avoiding all the leaks) who will be absolutely disgusted when they realize Ellie is the final boss & the player character beats the shit out of her.

Take a step back for a moment & realize what's going on: a grown adult man called Neil Druckmann (41 years old) has written a lesbian fiction where the lead character is brutally beaten within an inch of her life by the player character in the final boss fight. It's fucked up.

 

[Wunray]

Only popped in here to ask if it's possible to have a TLOU2 meme compilation thread cause some of these are glorious.

 

[Clear]

That's what I'm doing here. Debating. I'm refuting your equivalence between the two forums.

You can't be against Resetera because they censor free debate and then complain when free debate happens here. Nasty opinions out in the open are one of the natural expectable results of freedom of speech, public forums, lack of authoritarian moderation.

First things first, I'm not criticizing the forum for hosting the debate. I'm criticizing what I consider to be the pitifully low quality of posts in this thread. I do not have any complaint with the moderation or management of the site here, I've not asked for the thread to be closed or lobbied for anyone to get banned.

So your complaints have zero substance and in any case aren't evn relevant to my main point of issue: specifically that I see the same abysmal level of discourse seen on on Resetera occurring here.

That I have to spell this out is emblematic of the fundamental issue.

After 12 years, perhaps you should've grown a thicker skin. You will be called all of the usual epitaphs, you will be strawmaned, and you will strawman others. You, me, no one is above a cheap point once in a while. It comes with the territory. Be thankful others will call you out. You get to call out others.

My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just kinda offended by the sheer stupidity and lack of self awareness of many posts/posters in this thread.

Again. I feel like I'm arguing with someone with either a marginal working knowledge of the English language, or the mentality of a small angry child. Its the only reason I'm not being meaner with my retort.

Forever give up on the idea of yours or anybody's opinions getting universal, consensual or even significant traction all time. This is like a pressure cooker. If your ideas can withstand the pressure of serious scrutiny, they're probably sound.

I don't post for validation. I'm not here to make friends or allies. I simply speak the truth as I see it.

You want to alter my position, make your case cogently and persuasively. If I can see the merit in it. I will surely change because, frankly, why not? Its just talk about video-games and not of anything of real substance or import.

On this subject however, that aint happening. The only come-backs I'm getting are drivel, your post being a perfect example.

 

[Ogbert]

Take a step back for a moment & realize what's going on: a grown adult man called Neil Druckmann (41 years old) has written a lesbian fiction where the lead character is brutally beaten within an inch of her life by the player character in the final boss fight. It's fucked up.

Yep.

As you say, a full grown man has ensured that every element of traditional feminine beauty is stripped out of the game, replaced with hyper-realistic male violence, and concludes with you brutally assaulting and perhaps murdering a pair of lesbians.

But don't worry lads. It's not mysoginistic.

It's *empowering*.

Ladies, it's time to hit the steroids. Feminism is about to get serious!

 

[siekro1983]

Two cross fit women that are ripped as shit and still look like women. Which abby doesn't. Your point sucks when it is so easily debunked.

one on the right looks pretty manly, they both have been affected by steroid which makes them look more manly. and no, in a world like that being juiced to the gills doesn't make sense. surviving is way more about the skill with weapons and tactical stealth then actual strength, these are people are not doing cross fit or UFC.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

If you think those two have unattractive faces then you must have REALLY high standards. They both have obvious feminine bone structure to their face. Abby is modeled to look like a man in all aspects, because that fits their political narrative.

I can understand not being attracted to buff chicks, as I find them really unappealing as well. But those two have pretty faces for sure.

The one on the left is alright I suppose one on right is a mong. But yeah musclar is where I stop not fussy really otherwise.

I really don't think it matters how she looks to me or why that is politics don't concern me its all its all irrevelvant she could looked like beauty model and I would be still be pissed she killed joel.

I think if you let these things bother you your going to spent rest life weather that's with movies or TV shows or games questioning and examing everything rather than doing the one thing entertainment is there to enjoy and chill.

 

[BlackTron]

What a sad waste of a good original franchise.

 

[Kagero]

Two cross fit women that are ripped as shit and still look like women. Which abby doesn't. Your point sucks when it is so easily debunked.

Hilarious! there's zero difference here. Take away the makeup, perfect camera angle, and pose. I know you're not this dumb c'mon man. Besides, nice cherry picking. Again, I would ask anyone here to go to google and look up. Cross fit woman. Just go and do it.

 

[Punkster88]

 

[B-universe]

First things first, I'm not criticizing the forum for hosting the debate. I'm criticizing what I consider to be the pitifully low quality of posts in this thread. I do not have any complaint with the moderation or management of the site here, I've not asked for the thread to be closed or lobbied for anyone to get banned.

So your complaints have zero substance and in any case aren't evn relevant to my main point of issue: specifically that I see the same abysmal level of discourse seen on on Resetera occurring here.

That I have to spell this out is emblematic of the fundamental issue.



My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just kinda offended by the sheer stupidity and lack of self awareness of many posts/posters in this thread.

Again. I feel like I'm arguing with someone with either a marginal working knowledge of the English language, or the mentality of a small angry child. Its the only reason I'm not being meaner with my retort.



I don't post for validation. I'm not here to make friends or allies. I simply speak the truth as I see it.

You want to alter my position, make your case cogently and persuasively. If I can see the merit in it. I will surely change because, frankly, why not? Its just talk about video-games and not of anything of real substance or import.

On this subject however, that aint happening. The only come-backs I'm getting are drivel, your post being a perfect example.

You have a wonderful day then.

 

[Velius]

Fucking kek dude

 

[Explosive Zombie]

When people say Abby doesn't look like a chick do they just mean her body? Because her face is modeled after an attractive woman and it's an attractive face. Even her body is modeled after a woman's but I can see finding that body type unattractive.

 

[Punkster88]

Dunno if it has been posted yet but here's a 1h30 spoiler video.

https://m.cda.pl/video/509538290

Joel scene from another perspective:

When he spit on Joel that actually got me pissed.

 

[Jon Neu]

Do you know why Riley was created?
Do you know why Abby was created?
Do you know why Tess was created?

Explain to me how and why these characters were created, from the gender to their race.

Now we understand what the D in your nickname stands for.

Deflection.

How is Drake equal to an entire group of mercenaries? What's his equalizer?

His equalizer is being the protagonist. Will you prefer a videogame in which you get killed at the first encounter of impossible difficulties and couldn’t move on.

Is the trope of the hero. And are the mechanics that make a videogame entertaining.

 

[Velius]

It's amazing at the ratio of making fun of LoU2 after the leak vs. supporters.

The franchise sold something close to 20 million copies across the original and remaster on PS4, you'd think there would be TONS of supporters defending the game. Even Reeee was a shitshow of people criticizing the game.

Let's say a leak came out for Halo or Witcher or GTA and you had some dopey plot. For every naysayer, I'd bet there would also be a defender.

LoU2 looks like a game with almost universal common support for the meh/negative side coming from the leak. Amazing how skewed it seems to be with tons of extra work put into memes.

Why would Reee have any problem with the game? It's woke to the gills

 

[DForce]

Now we understand what the D in your nickname stands for.

Deflection.

You just deflected all of my questions.

His equalizer is being the protagonist. Will you prefer a videogame in which you get killed at the first encounter of impossible difficulties and couldn’t move on.

Is the trope of the hero. And are the mechanics that make a videogame entertaining.

So his equalizer is being the protagonist?


So if you played Nadine as the protagonist and you would have no problem her beating up dudes, correct? Did you have a problem with Uncharted Lost Legacy?

You're making no sense, dude.

 

[Clear]

You have a wonderful day then.

I suggest you reflect on what I wrote, because it was all true and entirely fair.

 

[Ogbert]

I suggest you reflect on what I wrote, because it was all true and entirely fair.

Dude, you’re not The Oracle at Delphi.

 

[Jill Valentine]

Two cross fit women that are ripped as shit and still look like women. Which abby doesn't. Your point sucks when it is so easily debunked.

With the traps/shoulders, stomach muscles and quads, these two definitely look juiced on steroids. The only real good example I seem to see are combat sports where there is serious testing like UFC/boxing fighters. Might be able to pull outliers from Olympic strength competition examples.

 

[DForce]

Saw a small portion a clip on Resetera forum

It's another spoiler and I think people might cry "More SJW Propaganda!"

Spoiler: Spoiler

Ellie is seen killing the guy who was seen spitting on Joel. I hope she does the same thing in return.

SJW? A woman just killed a man! Dammit Neil!

 

[ksdixon]

Oh ffs.... What is this?

https://i.redd.it/lbxf1upt86w41.jpg

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Oh ffs.... What is this?

https://i.redd.it/lbxf1upt86w41.jpg

Don't get can you explain?

 

[ksdixon]

Don't get can you explain?

Changed TLOU1 Ellie model in a flashback. Now she looks like a trap.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Changed TLOU1 Ellie model in a flashback. Now she looks like a trap.

I've not slept for for a few days so might impairing me. But I all I can see is she looks thinner.

 

[Jon Neu]

You just deflected all of my questions.

I deflected the deflector and his stupid deflecting questions.

Or how they say in spanish: Quien a hierro mata, a hierro muere

So his equalizer is being the protagonist?

If that’s not the equalizer, then what’s it?

Enlighten us

So if you played Nadine as the protagonist and you would have no problem her beating up dudes, correct? Did you have a problem with Uncharted Lost Legacy?

I wouldn’t have a problem with a videogame in which a baby destroys the entire US forces. It’s a videogame.

We are not talking about that, but as always, you try to deflect with silly questions and run, displaying a level of intellectual dishonesty only our oracle Clear is capable to compete with.

You're making no sense, dude

Says the dude claiming there isn’t any political agenda even when the creator of the game himself contradicts you.

That alone is a level of crazyness that sometimes I wonder why any sane person would still try to argue with someone who indulges in this level of intellectual dishonesty.

Then I remember how fun this thread is and I understand why.

 

[Hendrick's]

Looks like you play as abbie, and Ellie is stalking you round a basement or summat and you have to hide. Ellie has a one hit kill if she gets her shot off (you can dodge jump to make it harder for her to hit you). The Abby sequence looks like you throw glass bottles from cover to stun Ellie then run out and smash her. Probably rinse/repeat a few times I guess.

That sounds horrible.

 

[Clear]

Dude, you’re not The Oracle at Delphi.

I bothered to respond to his nonsense, so it'd be nice to see that effort wasn't entirely wasted is all.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

So apparently, Naughty Dog is going around make false copyright claims on videos that merely discuss about the leaks. Geeks + Gamers, for example, had their livestream taken down even though the channel did not show a single image or any video footage. On top of that, ND seems to be hiring some shady company called MUSO TNT that is doing these takedowns.

 

[DForce]

I deflected the deflector and his stupid deflecting questions.

Or how they say in spanish: Quien a hierro mata, a hierro muere

You repeated what I said and I asked you questions. That's not reflecting.

If that’s not the equalizer, then what’s it?

Enlighten us

First you tell everyone that women Nadine shouldn't take on Drake because women are physically inferior to men


When I point out that Drake is unable to take out 10 men on his own, you tell me it's the equalizer because he's the main protagonist.

I haven't seen this much goalpost moving since Looney Tuns.

[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t have a problem with a videogame in which a baby destroys the entire US forces. It’s a videogame.

We are not talking about that, but as always, you try to deflect with silly questions and run, displaying a level of intellectual dishonesty only our oracle Clear is capable to compete with.

Yes you would. If the baby was a girl.

Says the dude claiming there isn’t any political agenda even when the creator of the game himself contradicts you.

That alone is a level of crazyness that sometimes I wonder why any sane person would still try to argue with someone who indulges in this level of intellectual dishonesty.

Then I remember how fun this thread is and I understand why.

I'll make this clear because somehow you missed it when I pointed this out in my post over 20 times.


I never said Neil doesn't have any agenda.

I know he wanted to show Ellie and Dina kissing for a reason. I mentioned walking dead because their agenda for pushing diversity is obvious. I said Abby killing Joel is not for political reasons because they want to get rid of the white man.

MY POINT:

It
Shouldn't
Matter

The Walking Dead's plot isn't scarified due to diversity.
Making Abby was a man then the plot would be nearly the same (as far as we know now).

 

[llien]

Cross fit woman. Just go and do it.

I did. I don't know, what was the point to be made, frankly (people on steroids/exercising daily in postapocaliptic world?), but here are the first links:

And video, if you'd like:

 

[Woggleman]

I honestly thought liberals were the ones who couldn't shut the fuck up crying about taking a loss but anti-SJW people might be worse going by this thread. game isn't getting changed, it might bomb but will it though? We'll see.

Also wasn't aware that gay people didn't exist until The Last of Us 2.

Very true. SJWs and anti SJWs are two sides to the same coin. They both think that they should be able to tell somebody what kind of art they can and can't create. At the end of the day I will make my final judgement when I play it. I loved the first one so I will probably love this one but at the end of the day they made the game they wanted to make and either like it or they don't.

 

[joe_zazen]

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So apparently, Naughty Dog is going around make false copyright claims on videos that merely discuss about the leaks. Geeks + Gamers, for example, had their livestream taken down even though the channel did not show a single image or any video footage. On top of that, ND seems to be hiring some shady company called MUSO TNT that is doing these takedowns.

it is even worse. They hired a front company to insulate themselves from any legal action against false strikes. Sony trying to squash little youtubers by cancelling their channels is really nasty. The front company’s legal contact email, btw is musodotcom@gmail.com, a fucking gmail address...yeah nothing fishy about that, they are the ”leading worldwide authority on digital piracy”. Lol