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RPCS3 - play PS3 games in 60+ FPS (and 21:9)

Armorian

Banned
This emulator really evolved since I first used it ~one year ago, this video inspired my for some new testing:




You can now force 30FPS games to render in framerates above that limit, results vary from title to title and I tested some games to check it out. I have old as fuck 2600K (4.4GHz) so more recent CPUs will give you much better results, still it's quite impressive in some cases.

Persona 5:



When I first tested this game it run in ~20 FPS in this scene, so quite big improvment:

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Ni No Kuni:

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Games above run with the method from the video without problems but that's not always the case, for example in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and Demon's Souls games run with 2x the speed with this. There are specific patches for some titles https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Help:Game_Patches

Demon's Souls:

60FPS


60FPS with 21:9 patch


NIER:

60FPS 21:9 (better than remaster :p)


I also tested Folklore and Drakengard 3
 
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D.Final

Banned
This emulator really evolved since I first used it ~one year ago, this video inspired my for some new testing:




You can now force 30FPS games to render in framerates above that limit, results vary from title to title and I tested some games to check it out. I have old as fuck 2600K (4.4GHz) so more recent CPUs will give you much better results, still it's quite impressive in some cases.

Persona 5:



When I first tested this game it run in ~20 FPS in this scene, so quite big improvment:

3tanRFaS_o.png


Ni No Kuni:

YHRPfNoV_o.png

7XfiXjBA_o.png


Games above run with the method from the video without problems but that's not always the case, for example in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and Demon's Souls games run with 2x the speed with this. There are specific patches for some titles https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Help:Game_Patches

Demon's Souls:

60FPS


60FPS with 21:9 patch


NIER:

60FPS 21:9 (better than remaster :p)


I alse tested Folklore and Drakengard 3


Cool
 
Yeah, you can already play many PS3 games in much better way than on original console.

Shadows of the Damned:



Clearly needs better CPU for this, but at least it works with the patch. Resolution is limited to 720p because any more creates artifacts.


I have this game but my PS3 is dead. I think I'm going to rip this and play through it, since I never got to!
 

Armorian

Banned
I have this game but my PS3 is dead. I think I'm going to rip this and play through it, since I never got to!

It seems quite fun from ~30 min I played it, without PC version it got stuck on last gen.

can i play my games from a bd drive ?

Sadly, no:

Can I just insert a PlayStation 3 game disc and start playing games?
In its current state, RPCS3 does not support reading game data directly from PlayStation 3 format discs. PlayStation 3 discs are formatted in a very special way that can only be read with an actual PlayStation 3 system, or a compatible Blu-ray drive from select manufacturers. For more information on what Blu-ray drives are capable of reading games, please refer to the Quickstart Guide.
 

Armorian

Banned
i took this one BW-16D1HT
in hope it can read (was not clear) or at worst to rip my games

It's on the supported list so you should be fine.

FUCK THIS I just pulled the trigger and bought:

- R5 3600
- x570 board
- 3200Mhz CL16 16GB RAM

It's probably not the best time to buy new CPU with Intel launch around the corner and B550 boards incoming but I will upgrade this CPU in 12 or 18 months to Zen 3 anyway and difference from 2600K should be massive :)

Will post results later this week.
 
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Romulus

Member
Good, PS3 is by far my least favorite sony console, but with couple of gems it does have its nice to know I don't need a ps3 again.
 

kiphalfton

Member
If this works, it will be a welcome way of playing:

- Condemned 2
- The Darkness
- Red Dead Redemption
- Metal Gear Solid 2-4
- Demon Souls
- God of War PSP & 1-3
- Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 & 2
- Infamous 1 & 2
- Killzone 2 & 3
- Tales of Xillia 1 & 2
- Jak and Daxter Trilogy

Think most of those weren't releae on PC, and having it just sitting around has been a waste since I got rid of my PS3 several years ago.
 

Armorian

Banned
Ninja Gaiden 2 when?

It seems to work fine but clearly needs better CPU than mine. Game works without many visible glitches and looks amazing in internal 4K resolution. Framerate seems tied to game speed and can be unlocked above 60 but there is no point.



I'm suprised how well Soul Calibur 4 runs, perfect 60 in 4K (with room for higher resolution):



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Low quality DOF ruins 3 image :(
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Emulators really have evolved in leaps and bounds. I was amazed at being able to add in ambient occlusion and DoF with depth maps using ReShade for PS2 emulation.
 
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kingbean

Member
It seems to work fine but clearly needs better CPU than mine. Game works without many visible glitches and looks amazing in internal 4K resolution. Framerate seems tied to game speed and can be unlocked above 60 but there is no point.



I'm suprised how well Soul Calibur 4 runs, perfect 60 in 4K (with room for higher resolution):



I've got a 9700k at 5.1ghz and I still get pretty terrible framedrops, but I haven't tested it in the past few weeks.
 

martino

Member
update :
BW-16D1HT works but rpcs3 doesn't read disk directly from hdd you need to dump the file

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the emulation as it is not great (I probably need to adjust some settings)
I don't see the difference between the rip content and what's on the disk (outside the ird file in another folder. did RPCS3 know it needs to look there ?)
i will dump my DS copy too :D (didn't worked better from disk)
 
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DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
What's a recommended cpu/gpu combo for both Intel and amd if I want to play 1080p with 60+ fps?
 

GHG

Member
What's a recommended cpu/gpu combo for both Intel and amd if I want to play 1080p with 60+ fps?

Depends on what games you want to play because some games are a hog right now regardless of the hardware you throw at it but in general this the most cost efficient combo:

Ryzen 3600
2060 or 2060 super

If you want to save a bit more and will only use this hardware for gaming the 3300x will possibly perform slightly better than the 3600/3700 in emulators due to it having zero CCX latency while still having 8 threads.
 
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EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Because Sony struggles with backwards compatibility you have PC gamers doing stuff like the op pointed out
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
Depends on what games you want to play because some games are a hog right now regardless of the hardware you throw at it but in general this the most cost efficient combo:

Ryzen 3600
2060 or 2060 super

If you want to save a bit more and will only use this hardware for gaming the 3300x will possibly perform slightly better than the 3600/3700 in emulators due to it having zero CCX latency while still having 8 threads.

THanks, I am looking on building a PC dedicated to emulation and I want it to play everything through PS3 at 1080p.

Why did I think I read that for RPCS3 Intel CPUs were still recommended (whereas Ryzen was really recommended for all other emulators)?
 

CobraXT

Banned
Depends on what games you want to play because some games are a hog right now regardless of the hardware you throw at it but in general this the most cost efficient combo:

Ryzen 3600
2060 or 2060 super

If you want to save a bit more and will only use this hardware for gaming the 3300x will possibly perform slightly better than the 3600/3700 in emulators due to it having zero CCX latency while still having 8 threads.

aren't amd cpu's slower in emulators .. especially in rpcs3 and pcsx2 ?
 

Armorian

Banned
What's a recommended cpu/gpu combo for both Intel and amd if I want to play 1080p with 60+ fps?
Depends on what games you want to play because some games are a hog right now regardless of the hardware you throw at it but in general this the most cost efficient combo:

Ryzen 3600
2060 or 2060 super

If you want to save a bit more and will only use this hardware for gaming the 3300x will possibly perform slightly better than the 3600/3700 in emulators due to it having zero CCX latency while still having 8 threads.

I did a LOT of research in sunday when I pulled "buy new CPU" trigger and it seems Intel is the best choice for this emulator thanks to TSX instructions, but HOW MUCH better? Unclear. For me the best choice was to wait for 10600 and new mobos but I don't have patience for this :messenger_grinning_smiling: On AMD side 3700X should be better than 3600 thanks to lower latency between cores but HOW MUCH? UNCLEAR AGAIN, there are just posts from RPCS3 staff and where I live 3700X is costs almost 2x for no performance benefits in gaming right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3600 should be great considered even my ancient 2600k is enough for many games :)

Because Sony struggles with backwards compatibility you have PC gamers doing stuff like the op pointed out

Sony emulators were always very basic so even if PS5 had working PS3 eumlator it would be 1:1 in terms of IQ (maybe better or worse performance?). Now many PS3 titles can shine in high resolution. There are still many unplayable games but so was MGS4 for example few months ago.

Skate 2 and Skate 3 work on this?

Yes, Skate 3 even in 120FPS :)

THanks, I am looking on building a PC dedicated to emulation and I want it to play everything through PS3 at 1080p.

Why did I think I read that for RPCS3 Intel CPUs were still recommended (whereas Ryzen was really recommended for all other emulators)?

You can easily play at 4K (internal) with power to spare with something like 1070/1660Ti, this emulator is not that demanding on GPU.
 
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GHG

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Why did I think I read that for RPCS3 Intel CPUs were still recommended (whereas Ryzen was really recommended for all other emulators)?


aren't amd cpu's slower in emulators .. especially in rpcs3 and pcsx2 ?

That's an outdated misconception. It was true maybe a year or two ago.

Even the 2600 and 2700 perform well in most games since the more recent builds of these emulators can leverage multi-threaded performance. But in general I wouldn't suggest going lower than the 3600 since the architectural improvements over the 2xxx series make them much better suited for emulators.



 

waylo

Banned
Running a 3800X and a 2060. Trying to play Skate 3 at 2560x1440 is a no-go. OpenGL is 25-30 FPS. Vulkan hits 60 FPS like maybe 50-60% of the time, but otherwise it's 45ish. Changing the resolution to 1920x1080 and it gets a solid 60 FPS like 80% of the time. Better, but still not great. It also looks significantly worse because I have a 1440p monitor. I'll continue waiting for the emulation to mature more.

Back to Session and SkaterXL.
 

MarlboroRed

Member
Really interested in this, but I know holding off for a couple more months will lead to a vastly superior experience playing some of those PS3 classics again, given the pace at which this thing is developing.
 

GHG

Member
"Ultra Durable" is an... interesting... adjective to plaster on a motherboard.

Well that and your PSU are the two parts of your PC you really don't want to fail since they have the potential to take out other parts with them.
 

Armorian

Banned

Sadly "only" 3600 :p I will update to 8 or 12 core Ryzen 4xxx but right now it's not needed.

First impressions are quite great, instalation alone went super smooth, it's always a lottery when assembling pc but all the stars alligned for me this time.

Persona comparison:

2600K

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3600

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More tomorrow :)
 
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kingbean

Member
Sadly "only" 3600 :p I will update to 8 or 12 core Ryzen 4xxx but right now it's not needed.

First impressions are quite great, instalation alone went super smooth, it's always a lottery when assembling pc but all the stars alligned for me this time.

Persona comparison:

2600K

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3600

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More tomorrow :)

Can anyone see the images?
 

kiphalfton

Member
Incidentally gameatop is sold out of ps4 games pretty much. Was one of the cheaper places to get games, as ebay prices are jacked up.
 

Armorian

Banned
So it took me longer tham expected but here is the update with Ryzen 3600 - as expected it is MUCH better than 2600K, Persona was ~35FPS in "town", now is 50-60

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Shadows of the Damned I posted earlier was dropping to ~30FPS, now it's the high "50"



Oh and one more little detail, MGS4 is completly playable on this CPU, runs better than on PS3 (that was dropping fps to ~20 quite often) and it was like ~18FPS on 2600K. That's not the way to play this but I stress tested the emulator and CPU, RCPS3 crashed at the end :messenger_grinning_smiling:



Bonus
 
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Soodanim

Member
Taking a quick look at the RPCS3 site, I think a very interesting bit of information is being able to dump your digital games. Being able to play digital exclusive titles without having your PS3 set up forever is nice.
 

Armorian

Banned
Taking a quick look at the RPCS3 site, I think a very interesting bit of information is being able to dump your digital games. Being able to play digital exclusive titles without having your PS3 set up forever is nice.

Plus Sony will disable PS3 store at some point, and no official PS5 emulation in sight....
 

Bullet Club

Member


With recent accuracy improvements to RPCS3, LittleBigPlanet 1 is now playable! While graphics and performance were already great, recent improvements have addressed the physics issues that previously plagued this title. With that in mind, you might be wondering about LittleBigPlanet 2 and 3 as well - they are also very close to being playable... However there are still some minor issues that may prevent you from finishing the games, although some users have reported workarounds that can be used to bypass these issues.

As mentioned in the video, users who wish to play disc versions of LittleBigPlanet 1 need to update the game to the latest version to get past the first loading screen.
 

kiphalfton

Member
Got my bluray drive (LG WH14NS40) in the mail yesterday. Gonna hopefully get a chance to install it in my PC and try it out... granted I still need to set up the rpcs3 software first and get all the necessary files.

How long does it take to set up the rpcs3 software? I've had experience with pcs2, cemu, and dolphin, though that was a whole back, but it didn't seem too involved getting those set up iirc.
 

Armorian

Banned
Update time.

So months have passed and as usual I check the lastest build for improvments, and look Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 runs much better now. I don't have old 3600 recording but it's way better than then.



In comparison my 2600K recording

Drakengard 3



And Heavenly Sword



This game was struggling for 30FPS target on PS3, now it's close to 60 (on my CPU) in 1800p resolution. This is what emulation was made for.
 

Armorian

Banned
For some time now RPCS3 has "game patches" option in "menage" section, it works great and contains all important speedhacks/fps unlockers/ultrawidescreen support etc.

Siren Blood Curse - 30FPS with drops to ~15 (!!!) on PS3 in 960x540 resolution. Now 60FPS (with ~30 lock in SS) in 3200x1800:



I completely forgot how to finish 1 chapter so a lot of dumb stuff is happening :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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