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[TheSadRanger]

You can like whatever you want. I was just advising the community to be respectful about the work of any devs. Not only ND but others studios out there.

I asked the threads to be close because there was not point of arguing about wether some people like Tlou or not my point was clear...let's be respectful and stop that mob mentality, it was not about who like this or that.

You just agreed with someone saying that the only reason people dislike it is because of "muh bigotry" and ask people to be respectful. lol

Also many people who loved the first hate what they did to Ellie turning her into a blithering idiot so how does that even apply to bigotry considering the character is a lesbian.

No one has complained about the Dina and Ellie lesbian relationship in the thread. Even though they fucking sleep on an adult bed with an infant which is highly irresponsible and dangerous. This is common sense to put a infant in a crib.

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Oh and how about the part where Ellie had to tell Jesse that the obviously Asian looking baby was his "well no shit sherlock lol"

People rag on TLOU2 because there's so much stupid shit written that has nothing to do with LBQT.

 

[ThatOneGrunt]

Stuff like this kind of makes me wish the game would just go away. I'm over all the blog posts, articles, and opinions on this game. It doesn't deserve all this attention.

 

[nemiroff]

So..

1.

We as a community needs to change...until its too late and we end up destroy it.
Its always better to give constructive criticism instead of always acting mighty
I hope that as a community we respect and cherish what we have....

2.

It’s apparent that the primary reason it’s being bashed so much is that angry alt right men are upset that this game has so much female and LGBT character representation in it.
I think it’s mainly upset heterosexual white men ranging in age from their teens to their 30’s making up the legion of trolls spamming sites like Metacritic.

3.

This!

FFS man.. It took only one thread for your own fucking virtuous mission to crash and burn..



Edit: And BTW: From my experience people don't have a problem with people who just happen to be LGBT (I for one don't). People do however have a problem with political activism. It's not exactly a surprise as this always have been a controversial thing surrounding videogames - Especially since many regard videogames an important escapism mechanism. It doesn't take a expert bloodhound to notice that Druckman may have compromised the quality of the storytelling in his game with his agendas, thus people are voicing their opinions through message forums, or f.ex. through a vote.

 

[Endless Fluff]

I never complained about the fact that some dont like Tlou, i was just asking if we can be more respectful and appreciative as a community towards the artist and devs working hard to bring us sometimes incredible experiences.

Whether it's from ND, kojima, Santa Monica etc... we can give constructive feedbacks without trashing their hard work.

Giving a game "0" is beyond retarded in my humble opinion.

Why the fuck should I respect and appreciate developers who shit all over this community? They treat us as uneducated swines, calling us bigots, trans-/homophobes and racist nazis. They can go fuck themselves. The most appreciation they get is when I decide to throw down 60-100 bucks at launch, that's all what they want anyways. I don't need to brown nose them on top of that.

If a game tries to educate me by forcing an agenda down my throat, it's a 0 as I'm nearing 40 and don't need to be forcefully educated by pretentious, narcissistic game dev pricks like Dr. Uckmann with 100 galaxy brains.

 

[teezzy]

 

[Sander Cohen]

What is abomination is how many followers this game got after Part 1. I mean, yeah, it was great game, I bought it at launch, had really good mp at the time....but for the love of god, it was clearly second coming of Christ for millions out there. Nothing else can explain this outburst of passion from all sides on the internet. That’s what baffles me.

If TLOU was that special, then RDR 2 was for me like meeting God personally. Out of the world experience.

People strongly identified with Joel for whatever reason and felt really insulted by Part II story choices but the lesson here is to never take these pieces of media too personally, you’re bound to get disappointed and it’s just fiction anyway. GoT 8 was sobering moment for everyone. Don’t get too exalted or to down over piece of media, like ever.

 

[IamOnline4Real]

Why the fuck should I respect and appreciate developers who shit all over this community? They treat us as uneducated swines, calling us bigots, trans-/homophobes and racist nazis. They can go fuck themselves. The most appreciation they get is when I decide to throw down 60-100 bucks at launch, that's all what they want anyways. I don't need to brown nose them on top of that.

If a game tries to educate me by forcing an agenda down my throat, it's a 0 as I'm nearing 40 and don't need to be forcefully educated by pretentious, narcissistic game dev pricks like Dr. Uckmann with 100 galaxy brains.

You said you nearing 40, same as me.
How can someone force any agenda on you at this age? Aren't you old enough to make your own decision?

 

[CatLady]

You can like whatever you want. I was just advising the community to be respectful about the work of any devs. Not only ND but others studios out there.

I asked the threads to be close because there was not point of arguing about wether some people like Tlou or not my point was clear...let's be respectful and stop that mob mentality, it was not about who like this or that.

Are you as bothered by the mob mentality that automatically gives the game a 10/10 many before the game even released because omg Naughty Dog are teh gods !1!!11! Or that make all these threads whining about the user score.

I think after seeing the story leaks a lot of hardcore ND and TLOU fans feel ND didn't show the fans or the original game and characters any respect. Why would those disappointed fans be expected to give Naughty Dog any more respect than they feel ND gave them? I can understand and accept those fans giving it a 0/10 easier than I can accept people giving it a 10/10 before it even released. Developers are of course free to make any game they want. Fans are just as free to hate it.

I lost interest in this game at the 2018 E3 reveal and got rid of my PS4 so I don't care about this game one way or the other. I am rebutting your sweeping generalizations and the way you presented them. i.e. calling the gaming community an abomination because they don't agree with your self-righteous opinions

 

[Zog]

Giving the Last of Us 2 a score of "0" is unfair. There is a least something good in this game.

Giving the Last of Us 2 a score of "10" is unfair. There is atleast something bad in this game.

 

[Jtibh]

You should be a full member to make threads.

Maybe then we wont have threads that are an abomination

 

[diffusionx]

Not sure why I owe Naughty Dog anything, including respect. As far as I am concerned they wasted their time and everybody else’s with that shit sandwich of a game. They are big boys and girls, they can handle it.

 

[Jtibh]

Has nothing to do with it, I Just don't like how we portray ourselves like "idiots" these days.

You reply is a proof of what im talking about, you don't use your brain enough. Quick to answer slow to thing.

Where I live there is a saying that goes like: "Il faut tourner sept fois sa langue dans sa bouche avant de parler."

Hope you can at least translate that.

Thanks

Do you know who you are talking too?
The big boss. You fool.

 

[Happosai]

Yes I assume because no grown ass man could do that.
You have to be retarded or really young to give any work of art a "zero".

What work of art would that be?

 

[LaughingStock]

I rate this thread 0/10.

 

[zeroFiveNine]

TLOU2 - just lie back and enjoy the memes

 

[Jtibh]

That was one weird deflection. How I feel about objective facts is as interesting as whether I like gravity or not.

I can list hundreds of differences between men and women. We do not share the exact genome. That is a biological fact.

Why you mix that with gender equality is a more interesting question. Gender equality is about equal opportunity and equal respect.

Idiot.


But hey kudos for almost hitting a 100 posts in 4 years.

Fucking A. Gender equal.....hold on what happened to gender fluid ?

 

[eastwood333]

Diversity can be good. But shoving political views and gender identity politics into game and then destroying the story and characters are another thing entirely.

The combat and graphics are the shining part to the TLOU2. I feel bad for ND given that a single arrogant man (Neil Druckman) forced gender politics and royally screwed up the story(that awful ending). So Neil kind of dropped the ball here and let ND/gamers down.

 

[IamOnline4Real]

Giving the Last of Us 2 a score of "10" is unfair. There is atleast something bad in this game.

Agree never said a 10/10 is fair

 

[IamOnline4Real]

Are you as bothered by the mob mentality that automatically gives the game a 10/10 many before the game even released because omg Naughty Dog are teh gods !1!!11! Or that make all these threads whining about the user score.

I think after seeing the story leaks a lot of hardcore ND and TLOU fans feel ND didn't show the fans or the original game and characters any respect. Why would those disappointed fans be expected to give Naughty Dog any more respect than they feel ND gave them? I can understand and accept those fans giving it a 0/10 easier than I can accept people giving it a 10/10 before it even released. Developers are of course free to make any game they want. Fans are just as free to hate it.

I lost interest in this game at the 2018 E3 reveal and got rid of my PS4 so I don't care about this game one way or the other. I am rebutting your sweeping generalizations and the way you presented them. i.e. calling the gaming community an abomination because they don't agree with your self-righteous opinions

Yes I am as bothered. Goes both ways. I should have put it into my first post to clarify.

 

[Woggleman]

Diversity can be good. But shoving political views and gender identity politics into game and then destroying the story and characters are another thing entirely.

The combat and graphics are the shining part to the TLOU2. I feel bad for ND given that a single arrogant man (Neil Druckman) forced gender politics and royally screwed up the story(that awful ending). So Neil kind of dropped the ball here and let ND/gamers down.

Hate on the story all you want but all Neil did was make a game where the major players were mostly women and one of them was gay. If those are forced gender politics then I don't know what to say. Society will truly be equal when the very presence of a woman or a gay person in a game is not considered an agenda. Dislike the story, gameplay or whatever all you want but the inclusion of certain groups who are human beings like everybody else is not an agenda.

 

[eastwood333]

Hate on the story all you want but all Neil did was make a game where the major players were mostly women and one of them was gay. If those are forced gender politics then I don't know what to say. Society will truly be equal when the very presence of a woman or a gay person in a game is not considered an agenda. Dislike the story, gameplay or whatever all you want but the inclusion of certain groups who are human beings like everybody else is not an agenda.

Checking off boxes "more women", more "gay characters" does not make a game better. Lets also forget all the crunch and other drama going on with thin the studio. ND are not saints.

If you want to praise "more women", then praise studios that have more lead/senior women devs etc.

 

[ZZZZ]

It’s a pretty good game, Great graphics, engaging story, and the gameplay elements that are present are satisfying. It just feels very polished.

It’s apparent that the primary reason it’s being bashed so much is that angry alt right men are upset that this game has so much female and LGBT character representation in it. Heterosexual men took a backseat in a video game for once and it put young men up in arms. They’re not used to taking the backseat in a story and it’s scary to them.

I don’t think it’s kids. I think it’s mainly upset heterosexual white men ranging in age from their teens to their 30’s making up the legion of trolls spamming sites like Metacritic.

Get out of here with this B.S.
How many times am i gonna have to post this?

Here's a few more you can look it yourself if the game got review bombed:
Half Life: Alyx
Any of the Last 3 Tomb raider games.
Bayonetta 1 and 2.
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice.
Child of Light.
Uncharted: Lost Legacy.


There's even more but i think i made my point.

As to the OP getting all bothered by the 0 scores. It's because it's the only way people can express themselves that they weren't happy with the product that they got, and the best way to express that disappointment is unfortunately by scoring it a 0, even though the game doesn't deserve a rating that low.

ND made use of false marketing, Neil acted like a fucking douche bag on twitter, all the media that got to review early called this game a masterpiece, there were even comparisons to this being the Schindler's list of video games, and you don't think when people get their hands on the game and they are disappointed, not only on the game but by the false marketing, the lies, and the media there would be no backlash?

The worst part of all this is that ND knew the game was going to be polarizing, and still the Media, Sony, and ND acted like fucking clowns the entire time.

The result is what you see everywhere with a score rating.

You want your consumers to treat you with respect, you better start respecting them first.

 

[Orthodox Gaming Dad]

Diversity is always good, and if we truly respect gaming, we should stop bringing our personal opinions into every games that is releasing today.

If developers and publishers agree that diversity is always good, I'd like to see some contemporary titles that promote more conservative / traditional moral value. Can you name many or any that do?

And if players should stop bringing their personal opinions into every game they play (which I can’t image people on average can actually do that), should developers also restrain themselves from the same?

Personally, if developers and publishers actually agreed that diversity is always good (and they don’t), then we could have poz, degenerate morality in games and players would complain less as there would be more options out there.

Unfortunately developers and publishers DON’T agreed that diversity is always good, hence gaming is awash with blue haired, feminist, LGBTQI, specially abled furries and anything that slightly challenges that is squashed. [See The Last Night as but one example]

What we see happening on the streets right now has been happening online for almost a decade. When push comes to shove, the bureaucratic, corporate structures bend the knee to the minority violent mobs to the detriment of their CORE majority audience.

If (actual) brave developers, publishers and news outlets don’t manifest soon and all we are left with are the Neil Druckmann’s and Adam Sessler’s of the world then I hope the gaming industry crashes and burns harder than it did in the 80’s.

 

[kraspkibble]

You sound like you're in pain, OP.

Hope you get better soon.

 

[trapanesenyc]

Nothing changed about the gaming community, it's always been a cesspool for terrible people. Amazing people play video games but unfortunately many of the fans are the typical alt right, cliche, incel edge lords who use their small world view to bash anyone and anything they dislike. I love video games but I just started to go on sites like this and reddit gaming forums due to how terrible they tend to be. Just a circle jerk of hate.

 

[Woggleman]

There are a ton of military themed shooters out there. COD comes out yearly and is very much not woke. Also I have yet to see a single person in TLOU2 with blue and neither Neil Druckmann nor Halley Gross have blue hair.

 

[Little Chicken]

Life is so much easier when you just let go of the bullshit and relax huh

Took me a while.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Look, all the shit around TLOU2 is funny. Sure, it's not a 0/10 game or even a 5/10 game - it's got competent to exceptional graphics, good gameplay, and is a polished game outside of the story, but the story is what triggers emotional responses in people. You aren't going to have people who got invested in TLOU1 not get pissed and overreact at TLOU2 and have that "overrule" their rational understanding that TLOU2 isn't Big Rigs or Sonic 06.

 

[Keihart]

Don't agree with OP's statements, but the hate boner against TLoU2 it's embarrasing.

 

[PresetError]

All The Last of Us Part II drama will pass in two weeks or a month and gamers (I don't like the word gamer at all) will find another thing to be overly excited or angry about. Then will be relative silence until the awards season come and TLOU2 will be nominated for GOTY (probably also for best narrative) and we will have the same discussions about it all over again for another two weeks or a month.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I definitely feel that younger or new generation gamers are much more spoiled, entitled, picky and like to nitpick literally everything these days. They complain about bad games, yet have no idea how bad some video games truly were back in the 16 to 64 bit era. No or less voice acting, no patches to save or update the game, more expensive games, etc.

Gamers are definitely entitled to their opinions, but giving a perfectly functional game 0/10 because you felt the writing was bad or complaining that SF5 is the worst fighting game of all time ever is kind of extreme to me.

 

[Abear21]

My wife used to love Michael Jackson’s music, after watching Finding Neverland she will no longer listen to him.

Some people can’t separate the art from the artist.

Musicians, Actors, Comedians, presidents, famous painters and real artists all have done or created incredible things that inspire millions but where flawed individuals and in some cases just plain sick and twisted.

If you don’t want to support or appreciate the art because of who they arone and what they’ve done than don’t.

Im tired of hearing about everyone’s choice and why it’s right or wrong. I’m gonna go play some games now.

 

[Rikoi]

It's a simple sign of protest.
Obviously TLOU 2 is not THAT BAD, but if you don't fight back and express your disappointment against this behavior they will think they are doing fine and wokeness will increase.
Do you remember the woke Gillette ad and the huge backlash it got? Even after 1 year they can't re-enable like/dislike and comments under their videos on youtube, that's why you don't go political.
I don't want to think about politics when I play a game or shave my beard. You have no right to criticize me and teach me a lesson while I buy stuff from you, you should thank me that i'm buying your stuff.

 

[Convicsik]

As a 38 year old guy with four teenagers I can tell you that it’s not the kids that have a problem, it’s the people my age that are generally toxic. When people get older and start seeing society change, they don’t like it, it’s uncomfortable, and that is why old people are always considered grumpy and out of touch, no matter what era they are from. My generation just happens to be THEE gamer generation.

My generation has basically lived through every console cycle ever. so where most people grow out of certain hobbies from their childhood, our generation grew with the technology, so in other words, my generation never grew out of gaming, and I can say with complete confidence that majority of people who are being overly critical of this game, or the new Star Wars movie, or basically anything that my generation thinks SHOULD be made for them and their tastes, are people between 30 and 45 years old.

Adults hated Elvis because swinging his hips went too far
Adults hated long hair hippies because it went to far
Adults hated Dungeons and Dragons because it went to far.
Adults hated gangster rap because it went to far.

See the pattern. Adults hate what they feel is overly diverse / socially aware things because most adults are old and out of touch and it strays to far from what they grew up with. We just happen to live in an age where despite video games being stereotyped as a kids hobby, there are just as many if not more adults playing video games.

 

[IamOnline4Real]

I definitely feel that kids these are much more spoiled, picky and like to nitpick literally everything these days. They complain about bad games, yet have no idea how bad some video games truly were back in the 16 to 64 bit era.

Gamers are definitely entitled to their opinions, but giving a perfectly functional game 0/10 because you felt the writing was bad or complaining that SF5 is the worst fighting game of all time ever is kind of extreme to me.

This.

For those of us that have been gaming since the NES we appreciate how far gaming has come.
I'm no hurt in anyway by the score of zero that people gave Tlou2, I'm just sadden by current trend of the youngsters and the way the new generation of gamers are unappreciative of the medium.
Spoiled is the right word to describe that mob attitude.

From Tlou 1 we already knew Ellie was a lesbian, so I dont understand where it seems like it is something new.

Anyway, I'm too old for this...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

How about just enjoy the product and don't worry about what other people think.

The internet era sure made endless people have this hive mind mentality where everyone has to do this or that conforming to a certain result. Total losers.

I like Call of Duty games. I don't play them much anymore as got burned out from the early games on 360, but I know that all of the recent ones have got grilled with 3 and 4/10 user scores which is no different the LoU2. People poking fun with lots of 0/10 too.

So how come many people like myself don't care? Just like jealous people out there, don't worry what buddy down the street owns or likes or hates. Just worry about your own life.

 

[IamOnline4Real]

As a 38 year old guy with four teenagers I can tell you that it’s not the kids that have a problem, it’s the people my age that are generally toxic. When people get older and start seeing society change, they don’t like it, it’s uncomfortable, and that is why old people are always considered grumpy and out of touch, no matter what era they are from. My generation just happens to be THEE gamer generation.

My generation has basically lived through every console cycle ever. so where most people grow out of certain hobbies from their childhood, our generation grew with the technology, so in other words, my generation never grew out of gaming, and I can say with complete confidence that majority of people who are being overly critical of this game, or the new Star Wars movie, or basically anything that my generation thinks SHOULD be made for them and their tastes, are people between 30 and 45 years old.

Adults hated Elvis because swinging his hips went too far
Adults hated long hair hippies because it went to far
Adults hated Dungeons and Dragons because it went to far.
Adults hated gangster rap because it went to far.

See the pattern. Adults hate what they feel is overly diverse / socially aware things because most adults are old and out of touch and it strays to far from what they grew up with. We just happen to live in an age where despite video games being stereotyped as a kids hobby, there are just as many if not more adults playing video games.

True what you said, but at least back then when they complained they behave properly.

Right now in this age people feel entitled... they want this, they want that as if the world was created for them. They will go as far as burning shit out there to be heard.

In the 80's and 90's we never complained like this about video games.

 

[carlosrox]

Its always better to give constructive criticism instead of always acting mighty and bashing the hard work of some of these devs and gaming studios out there.

A-fucking-men.

 

[Orthodox Gaming Dad]

See the pattern. Adults hate what they feel is overly diverse / socially aware things because most adults are old and out of touch and it strays to far from what they grew up with. We just happen to live in an age where despite video games being stereotyped as a kids hobby, there are just as many if not more adults playing video games.

A contemporary, male, adult opinion.

Apparently adults are just “out of touch” and just don’t like the new generational direction because “it strays to far from what they grew up with”.

Have you ever considered that not all change IS for the better? That maybe the way we got to this vulgar, hyper sexualised (almost pornographic) culture started with Elvis swinging his hips on public television (it actually started prior to that). That maybe the generation who recoiled from that perceived something like we have now?

I think the idea that only the young should have their finger on the pulse is preposterous.

Society use to respect the wisdom of their elders and use to look to them to guide right action and right moral choices.

All I see these days are individuals who are lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty and having a form of goodness but operating against the good.

No offence to you Convicsik, i don't know you in anyway and am not judging you personally but the opinion that adults are “out of touch” and by logical conclusion should stop complaining because we are scared of diversity of cultural norms is utterly juvenile, unthoughtful, lazy and a horrid lesson to impart on younger people.

Society use to respect the wisdom of their elders.

 

[Chromata]

It's a simple sign of protest.
Obviously TLOU 2 is not THAT BAD, but if you don't fight back and express your disappointment against this behavior they will think they are doing fine and wokeness will increase.
Do you remember the woke Gillette ad and the huge backlash it got? Even after 1 year they can't re-enable like/dislike and comments under their videos on youtube, that's why you don't go political.
I don't want to think about politics when I play a game or shave my beard. You have no right to criticize me and teach me a lesson while I buy stuff from you, you should thank me that i'm buying your stuff.

The Gillette ad was overtly attacking a large portion of the population. TLOU2 doesn't attack anyone, it just has some characters of a different sexual orientation living their lives. I don't see what there is to protest here.

I can understand if you don't buy the game if that stuff bothers you, that's your choice, but review bombing and attacking the developers for not pandering to you is unjustified imo (not saying you did this since I don't know, I'm just referring to the general hate that's happening).

It's just as bad as people who try to sabotage a book because it says something they don't like. Just don't buy it, you don't have to.

Some games carry the political messages of their creators. Some don't. There's room for both, gaming is a very open and expressive medium.

 

[Gone]

Be respectful? Shut the fuck up.

And no, am not a "kid", I am a 30 years old guy.

One last thing, fuck The Last of Us II and its stupid cringe story.

 

[MrRogers]

Why the fuck should I respect and appreciate developers who shit all over this community? They treat us as uneducated swines, calling us bigots, trans-/homophobes and racist nazis. They can go fuck themselves. The most appreciation they get is when I decide to throw down 60-100 bucks at launch, that's all what they want anyways. I don't need to brown nose them on top of that.

If a game tries to educate me by forcing an agenda down my throat, it's a 0 as I'm nearing 40 and don't need to be forcefully educated by pretentious, narcissistic game dev pricks like Dr. Uckmann with 100 galaxy brains.

This right here. Never forget, the alt right, gamers, classical liberals whatever the fk u wanna call them, didn't start this fight. I know when this "culture war" started in gaming, cause I saw it, cause I was here, at this very forum in late 00s and early 10s when the former resetards started to grow, agitate, cancel, ostracize, ban, shame, ism and ist their ideology. I say for every reaction there is a response. Although that might not be the higher moral ground, fk it. They own all the institutions and corps anyways and a scornful response is all we got left. Yet you got a clueless op, come in here, pleading, and saying that THIS community is the problem with gaming... the fkin nerve and idiocy of it. Naughty Dogs leadership and present games are results of that agitation and propaganda years ago, and this leadership called gamers in communities like this every dishonorable word in the book, they don't deserve our respect, and certainly not our money, only our disdain.

 

[Danjin44]

The Gillette ad was overtly attacking a large portion of the population. TLOU2 doesn't attack anyone, it just has some characters of a different sexual orientation living their lives. I don't see what there is to protest here.

I can understand if you don't buy the game if that stuff bothers you, that's your choice, but review bombing and attacking the developers for not pandering to you is unjustified imo (not saying you did this since I don't know, I'm just referring to the general hate that's happening).

It's just as bad as people who try to sabotage a book because it says something they don't like. Just don't buy it, you don't have to.

Some games carry the political messages of their creators. Some don't. There's room for both, gaming is a very open and expressive medium.

This, all I'm asking is for people to be little reasonable, some of you guys are acting as ND did some kind of personal attack against your beliefs or something.

 

[IamOnline4Real]

This right here. Never forget, the alt right, gamers, classical liberals whatever the fk u wanna call them, didn't start this fight. I know when this "culture war" started in gaming, cause I saw it, cause I was here, at this very forum in late 00s and early 10s when the former resetards started to grow, agitate, cancel, ostracize, ban, shame, ism and ist their ideology. I say for every reaction there is a response. Although that might not be the higher moral ground, fk it. They own all the institutions and corps anyways and yet you got a clueless op, come in here, pleading, and saying that THIS community is the problem with gaming... the fkin nerve and idiocy of it. Naughty Dogs leadership and present games are results of that agitation and propaganda years ago, and this leadership called gamers in communities like this every dishonorable word in the book, they don't deserve our respect, and certainly not our money, only our scorn.

Never did I point the finger at this forum or any members here.

Are you ok? I mean mentally.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

I think kids have nothing to do with TLOU 2 reviews.
The reasons TLOU 2 is hated are mostly political, and about the story following the first one, which is bad, a sequel wasn't really needed at this point. Most of them are also a way tell all those gaming journalists that their 100/100 reviews are bs, I'm sure it woud not have got so much hate if the score was in the 80s instead of 96(then 95).
Considering that kids usually totally ignore politics, and a good chunk of them also ignore story as long as they can shoot at targets, I'd say that the most hate comes from 25+ years old gamers.

I think it absolutely comes from people older than 25+ years old. The thing is reviews are opinions. I haven't ready any 10/10 review scores, yet. But you know what I have seen/read, scores that gave it 0/10 or less than 5/10, you know what they read like? Emotion filled, hate filled commentary on a game, that sometimes they haven't even played. Very little constructive criticism at all. The few I've read, granted I have not read a majority of them, just sound angry.

One of the difference I see between journalist vs user reviews is a journalist doesn't, at least they try not to, let one aspect of a game that they don't like taint/ruin the rest of a game/experience. A user, not saying all of them but some, will allow one aspect of a game that they don't like completely paint the rest of their experience. They can't separate it from the rest of the experience, but I don't blame them, it's not their job to do so. They're not being paid to objectively breakdown most aspects of the game. People are bored and frustrated with the current situation of the world, they had to let it out somewhere.

 

[Elog]

Idiot.


But hey kudos for almost hitting a 100 posts in 4 years.

Fucking A. Gender equal.....hold on what happened to gender fluid ?

Thank you for your eloquent answer. You might want to read up on the difference between quality and quantity. And in case there is any doubt on your side what I am talking about I would suggest you search Asimov and ignorance and read up.

 

[Jtibh]

Thank you for your eloquent answer. You might want to read up on the difference between quality and quantity. And in case there is any doubt on your side what I am talking about I would suggest you search Asimov and ignorance and read up.

You are still an idiot

 

[bender]

I know when I get mad I like to paint my nails black and play this tune on repeat.



Fuck yeah.

 

[Jtibh]

This, all I'm asking is for people to be little reasonable, some of you guys are acting as ND did some kind of personal attack against your beliefs or something.

Nd deceived its followers and fans . Putting out a trailer with old joel to give the illusion all is well and the leaks are fake. Yet in the final game there is no such thing.
Also the fact that they were hiding abby for good who is more or less the actual main character of the game.
They did false advertisement that is actually illegal in many parts of the world.

I couldnt give two shits about gays and trans in the game its not like it makes any difference to me . All you do is shoot and hide anyways.

No its the above the lies the deception.

 

[Inviusx]

Wrong, gaming is far bigger than what you read about on Gaf and Twitter.