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The Faux “diversity” of TLOU2 (story/character spoilers)
- Thread starter mr.dilya
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Guilty_AI
Member
What's hilarious is the fact you can somehow deduce people's skin color and origins through avatars
Soodanim
Member
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. It sounds like a joke because it justifies calling it an agenda by saying someone hasn't made being gay or transsexual known to them recently, but I can't be sure.
The Fartist
Gold Member
Me too.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Fuck, didn't know my race was visible.
Azurro
Banned
Absolute, let alone the fact that by the time 3rd generation of immigrants happen, all the accent is almost completely gone and some don't even speak the language of their grandparents. But no, this guy probably watched Breaking Bad and thinks all Mexicans are cholos.
Yeah man white people have been doing this shit for years, even this thread is a representation of that lmao
Tomeru
Member
Good for you, I know plenty of people who curse in their native language.
ExpandKong
Banned
It’s like you’re not even reading the posts you’re trying to argue with.
Echelon
Member
DON'T YOU MEAN THE BIGOT AND HIS BIGOT SANDWICHES? BIGOT. BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT. I KNOW WORD. I DRUCKMAN. BIGOT.
Knitted Knight
Banned
This is not how you're supposed to hate on this game. Someone get a hold of OP. Loose canon.
/just in case it ruffles the feathers too much, I'm just messing with you
Azurro
Banned
I'm not white dude.
Guilty_AI
Member
This is probably the most racist comment in this thread
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
At least golfing got some nice representation
lmao this thread is racist
BDubsLegend
Banned
Lol this Op was so low effort. You guys don't give up huh. I'm an Xbox guy and I find myself commenting on ridiculous takes on this game more than anything. That's white people's problem they always try to assume how minorites feel because they don't have that life experience. It comes out cringe with Sjws and trumpets a like. I'm sick of hearing black people cant be the bad guy too especially if it's a decently written character. Like the only way representation can be good is if they are saints and not because of a good performance/writing.
Guilty_AI
Member
Racists tend to see racism everywhere mate, time for you to do some self-reflecting.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Haha, get it? Someone is killed with a GOLF CLUB!!! BEST GOLF SIMULATOR SINCE BIOSHOCK!
As long as as capitalism exist there will always be racism friend and thats the unfortunate truth.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Holy shit lol
Ellery
Member
I feel like the person who created this thread didn't really do a good job of conveying the issues they have with the story, but maybe it got lost in translation a bit.
You can't have capitalism without racism. -Malcom X
Guilty_AI
Member
Holy shit, i can no longer tell if you're serious or not. Put a /s at the end of the comments at least.
Ulysses 31
Member
Enjoying the fruits of your labor is obviously tied to racism, that's just a fact!
Bog
Junior Ace
Oh THAT’s who they based Mel on.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Wait, Malcom X felt that way? This changes everything! Just like how I now worship Islam!
Raven117
Member
What the ever living fuck is this?
Is this a joke? I honestly can’t tell. (The irony is that Marx was a racist).
We have a politics board, I urge you to take it over there and debate this nonsense.
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I didnt get that fanatical when i read his book lmao. Good for you though!
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Capitalism is the only possibility for real equality as things are now in the world. In a truly capitalist society you prove your worth not by your skin color but by the ability to produce.
VertigoOA
Banned
Fucking Alex Kurtzman... i swear Picard got worse with each episode and was indeed dumb as shit.
Add JJ Abbrams to the mix... I mean Star Wars was murdered.
I find this hilarious btw... the OP pointing out everything else that could be perceived and twisted into racism and prejudice is just... I’m glad I never liked naughty dog games to ever give a shit.
Add JJ Abbrams to the mix... I mean Star Wars was murdered.
I find this hilarious btw... the OP pointing out everything else that could be perceived and twisted into racism and prejudice is just... I’m glad I never liked naughty dog games to ever give a shit.
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Too bad its falling apart here in the US =/
Futaleufu
Member
The best latin american representation I've seen is in The King of Fighters XIV. From white latinos (Leona, Angel, Ramon) to brown (Griffon Mask/Tizoc) to black (Zarina, Nelson) to mixed (Bandeiras is a black descendant of Hattori Hanzo)
Sorry bud ill shut up now lmao
Astral Dog
Member
someone asked for a BIGOT sandwich?
Ulysses 31
Member
Careful with the mystical true capitalism since the other side can bring up "true" communism where the wealth is spread equally...
Hudo
Member
For me, that game just isn't fun and some stuff I thought was clearly put in for "pushing the agenda"-reasons. An agenda I don't agree with. And that's ok. It doesn't mean that it is a bad game. It's just not for me but I don't hate it or anyone who was involved in its development. I just have a different opinion and expectations as they (seemingly?) wanted to deliver and that's ok. I'm not forced to play it.
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Raven117
Member
You don’t have to shut up. But dropping that kind of a bomb on gaming side isn’t the best way to garner good conversation about wherever it is you want to say.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Careful with the mystical true capitalism since the other side can bring up "true" communism where the wealth is spread equally...
It pretty much existed in Hong Kong for a long time, though, there's no example of true communism that has ever existed in the eyes of anyone supporting it.
I hear you. All im trying to say is, cant we just play games and not get offended because this person misrepresented this and that person misrepresented that? I honstly didnt get offended by the hispanic last of us character (Forgot his name) and im a latino thats off the boat from south america.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The OP specifically states the stereotype of a big black violent man with super strength... Somehow that's still a stereotype in 2020... Even that we don't feel pain... Some doctors Actually believe this.
Jon Neu
Banned
WellSheet
Member
That’s what hit me as the most “forced” aspect of it as well.
PLUS - what’s the worlds population in TLOU2? A few hundreds thousands, a few million maybe? The whole seraphite/WLF population must have been - and I’m saying combined as they do mentioned vague numbers -between 2-4K people? Maybe 5k?
it’s not IMPOSSIBLE to see LGBTQ people represented in that figure, but for them to come together in such a way...it’s HIGHLY unlikely and feels like Naughty Dog was more in love with the idea of representing their agenda/minorities than they were just creating GOOD characters first. They wanted to meet a progressive character quota...
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Ellie finding another girl isn't a stretch especially since Dina was with a guy first, at the risk of being called sexist... uh... girls be bi.
A.Romero
Member
First of all I'm Mexican and I don't care about representation and if there is any representation I don't care how close they are to reality. For some reason I don't get offended and nobody I know (Mexican/Gamers) get offended.
That said, there were many characters and there wasn't enough time to deeply explore them I think. I didn't even caught up that the guy was Mexican, I thought it was a random latino. Same happens in many other games where characters are white. Do we really care if for example Snake is Canadian, American, Japanese or whatever? I think we never did, why start now?
They wanted to make a game where gay people are common. Personally I don't see the issue. I don't think it would have made a difference if Lev was trans or not. However, there would be a difference if Dina was a man because of the baby. Other than that, Arabs, Mexicans, Asians... Who cares? Maybe the people claiming for "diversity" but for the rest? It shouldn't even register. Unless "diversity" (well executed or not) doesn't sit well with someone.
That said, there were many characters and there wasn't enough time to deeply explore them I think. I didn't even caught up that the guy was Mexican, I thought it was a random latino. Same happens in many other games where characters are white. Do we really care if for example Snake is Canadian, American, Japanese or whatever? I think we never did, why start now?
They wanted to make a game where gay people are common. Personally I don't see the issue. I don't think it would have made a difference if Lev was trans or not. However, there would be a difference if Dina was a man because of the baby. Other than that, Arabs, Mexicans, Asians... Who cares? Maybe the people claiming for "diversity" but for the rest? It shouldn't even register. Unless "diversity" (well executed or not) doesn't sit well with someone.
Sw0pDiller
Member
Wow still at it I see... Talking about brainfarts
Rien
Jelly Belly
I was under the assumption that Abby was a trans caracter and the moment the game reveals Levs story I had the same feeling. Later found out that Abby was not trans at all but my opinion didnt really change btw. Loved the game and had no problems with the choices but the rainbow street art and waving lgbt flags for example were try hard imo
LittleBigGamer
Banned
It is more common out there and voila! it's in the game.
Absolutely disgusting. No.
You have burned the internet for just a sexual diversion in two cases, imagine make everything with diversity in mind. Also, it could be a weird decision to make everything diverse.
That's why I don't get the OP at all.
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