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[icerock]

I also hope now folks can stop lapping up Phils PR, so much about disliking money-hatting? Only to lock ton of timed exclusives themselves.

When 90% of the studios you acquire are indies, you get indie games. Was this all that surprising?

Not really, they have acquired all types. The problem is (which I've been talking about for months) is that none of these studios have had enough time to push out a next-gen only title in next 2-3 years. It's all in early development, which is apparent by the use of CG trailers. Don't pick on em, but rather MS, they had 5 years to prepare for this launch. When you're hiring and building a studio in 2018, there's simply not enough time to build big budget titles in a 2 year time-frame. These acquisitions should have happened earlier.

MS know this, hence so many 'console launch exclusives' they have locked out.

 

[zaitsu]

Great showing, lots of new stuff with some new old stuff. Going to be a great couple of years

You must be joking or you're brainwashed xD

 

[Gediminas]

Greenberg after huge negativity in May : we learn from our May showcase.

came back in july to show even more of CGI

 

[Sinthor]

Well, again....to be fair and open, I'm getting a PS5. I do feel the Sony showcase was better, but from the standpoint that it focused on "next gen." That's simply not where MS is focusing going forward. They are focused on Xbox as a PLATFORM.

So, I think we're seeing just two diverging market strategies and philosophies. MS is focusing on the platform. They won't need to compete with Sony generation to generation...they want to count ALL the Xbox and mobile they've sold as the Xbox platform.

So I think it's shaping up to be- if you want to play your game on multiple hardware including mobile and PC, you want the Xbox ecosystem and platform. If you want games focused to take advantage of specific console hardware, then you want Sony's ecosystem. I think that's how it breaks down in the most simple terms. Agree? Disagree?

Bottom line, Xbox fans got shown some really cool games that I think they'll be very happy with. Halo looked great...ALL of them looked good. Period. There was never going to be some huge visible difference in XSX games, IMHO. But they definitely look upgraded from current gen! So overall I think it was a good showcase and they DID focus solely on games so props there as well.

Good show!

Most impressive (to me)- Halo Infinite and Everwild. I mean seriously...that art style for Everwild?? Wow. I like that!

 

[Crazychipmunx]

Feel rather underwhelmed...

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

Where are the insiders and twitter users who hyped this conference? I thought Xbox was going to really bring with their first party

 

[jose4gg]

Sony's transitions screen were amazing now that I look back...

 

[Gediminas]

You must be joking or you're brainwashed xD

yes, he is brainwashed.

 

[Great Hair]

Halo RPG looked "last", had at least a nice demo ... from here on though all trailers with 1 to 3 seconds of in-engine scenes.

Best of the show:
that hot milf in the blue dress
that jump&run by steamworld guys
last 3 seconds of Avowed

If they had shown footage to
Stalker 2
that other fps game darktide
avowed

The show would have been a good 8.
Solid 6.5 out 10.

 

[Tripolygon]

Something about cross gen games won't hold next gen consoles back?

 

[sircaw]

Ouch, not sure where to begin really.

Positives for me

State of decay short video looked really nice.
Everwild was Fantastic.
The song from Pysonauts 2 was amazing.
Stalker looks good
umm

The bads i really don't want to drive a nail in here
But Wtf was that halo, prehaps i was expecting something different but it looked like doom made by the team d. I saw fucking pop in. I was bored half way through the gameplay demo.

What was all this World launch shit.

Hellblade, Fable, Grim dawn, what the fuck.

This was way worse than sonys last show and i mean WAY worse. How can you fuck this up so much.
I am not even going to bother anymore this was a massive let down.

Agghh i am done with shit, beyond disappointed.

After all the bloody spin and bullshit from Microsoft this last month i was really expecting something amazing.

5/10 and that is me being nice.

 

[SlimySnake]

Show was jam-packed with games, which was very good to see. Medium was the pick for me, Everwild art direction is stunning. Stalker was a pleasant surprise. Halo looked very smooth, but cross-gen roots were too obvious. There wasn't a ton of cross-gen stuff which was nice to see. On the flip side, the stuff which actually looked next-gen is so early in dev that they showed either CG trailer or in-engine trailer. State of Decay 3, Forza, Fable.

After the reception to their May event, I'm amazed by how little gameplay we got today. And the real kick in the nads? No HellBlade 2 trailer.

Fable, State of Decay and Forza couldve been mic drop moments if they transitioned into gameplay. But now after waiting 8 months to see hellblade 2 gameplay, i am not sure if any of this is realtime or possible next gen.

My optimism has taken a massive hit today.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

I liked a lot of the games we saw, Microsoft are are offering a nice diversity of games it seems, nothing which blowed me away but I guess we'll still have to wait for a few years for developers to really push the hardware. Or maybe they're saving their big guns for later which I'm kinda skeptical about.

But the chicken will come home to roost, Microsoft and their execs constantly pushed the power narrative and buzzwords and the fans were expecting some really jaw-dropping stuff which we didn't get, there might be some sort of backlash but rightfully so.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

You must be joking or you're brainwashed xD

Not really, halo looked great, everwild seems amazing, Fable is one of my favorite games ever. This for me was the exact same showing as Sony did. Their first party studios with some 3rd part stuff all of it mostly in CGI trailers. Both are a solid 7-8/10

 

[marvifrom]

How can they fail to build hype this time? I'm getting worried about the Future of Xbox now.

 

[saintjules]

Not what I thought, but funny nonetheless

 

[zaitsu]

 

[Mr Moose]

I don't remember seeing it, but did they say anything/everything shown was on the Series X? (Like the PS5 event).

 

[Vae_Victis]

I mean, as an Xbox Game Pass show, this was a solid 8/10.

As an Xbox Series X show, I don't even know what to think anymore. Halo legit looks like a current gen, average FPS with 4K textures poorly splattered on the ground. NOTHING else that they showed was confirmed to be running on an XSX, and most stuff was most likely "in engine" (which doesn't mean shit, if you don't even tell me what is running it) or straight up CGI.

As I said, this was good to selling you a Game Pass in the next 6-12 months. But if they were legit thinking this will convince undecided people an XSX is what they need to buy at the end of 2020, I don't even want to know what Phil is smoking.

 

[Imtjnotu]

i swore microsoft said things would be different but yet again we got trailers of just cgi and other bullshit.

 

[TTOOLL]

MS's message is not pure next-gen at all. It's all one big XBOX/PC thing with optimizations, smart delivery and game pass. It's a strategy, sure.

 

[Hudo]

I kinda hoped they'd show Age of Empires IV...

 

[SlimySnake]

Ouch, not sure where to begin really.

Positives for me

State of decay short video looked really nice.
Everwild was Fantastic.
The song from Pysonauts 2 was amazing.
Stalker looks good
umm

The bads i really don't want to drive a nail in here
But Wtf was that halo, prehaps i was expecting something different but it looked like doom made by the team d. I saw fucking pop in. I was bored half way through the gameplay demo.

What was all this World launch shit.

Hellblade, Fable, Grim dawn, what the fuck.

This was way worse than sonys last show and i mean WAY worse. How can you fuck this up so much.
I am not even going to bother anymore this was a massive let down.

Agghh i am done with shit, beyond disappointed.

Halo 2 e3 demo looked better than this. This was basically a small skirmish. there is nothing next gen about this. it looks dated compared to current gen games.

the fact that they took two extra months than sony and still couldnt muster up anything substantial. like not even trailers that are longer than a minute shows how unprepared they are for next gen.

future is bright though. i guess.

 

[zeroeffect]

Shit, just have GamePass and you'll already have the entire launch lineup in your hands. Not a bad deal at all.

This is where I'm most excited with Microsoft right now. It's always amazing value in GP. But they're selling hardware too and right now it's not attractive enough on the games. The upside to this is waiting a few years to buy it the games those games will go nowhere and I can always just play stuff on PC with my Game Pass. The games will always be there so maybe waiting isn't a bad thing when I can get it cheaper.

I don't think this event is going to press Sony to do anything but continue the slow drip feed. Happy for those who enjoyed it but for me personally, it didn't do much. Looks like Sony/Nintendo/PC this gen right now for me. Probably sub to GP too. Hope we get a Switch Pro soon.

 

[Akuji]

this ... was .... utterly ... underwhelming...

wtf?
PS5 showcase was not great, but atleast it was somewhat interesting with a few hitter here and there.

this? what the fuck ...
halo looked boring gameplaywise ... would like to say something else about gameplay but i seriously cant remember any gameplay other then the halo one alrady ...

ahh grounded, yeah that looked like it could be fun.

i dont even know ...

 

[zaitsu]

I don't remember seeing it, but did they say anything/everything shown was on the Series X? (Like the PS5 event).

Not at all

 

[SSfox]

And Gamepass, don't forget the GAMEPASS!!

They repeat so much this word, i'm surprise they didn't hire some well known singer to make a song about this thing.

 

[Vae_Victis]

I don't remember seeing it, but did they say anything/everything shown was on the Series X? (Like the PS5 event).

Only Halo (they implied it, not said it outright, but that one most likely was).

 

[Gediminas]

greenberg said that show is filled with next gen games, can some one please, say it, which game are those? except Medium?

 

[Hobbygaming]

I fell for the Xbox hype once again

 

[jose4gg]

I mean, as an Xbox Game Pass show, this was a solid 8/10.

Yes, what they are doing with gamepass is amazing.

 

[iamvin22]

As expected this was very underwhelmed.

 

[PSX]

wow,

 

[jose4gg]

Is there any game that showed more raytracing than Ratchet & Clank at today's event?

 

[SlimySnake]

I liked a lot of the games we saw, Microsoft are are offering a nice diversity of games it seems, nothing which blowed me away but I guess we'll still have to wait for a few years for developers to really push the hardware. Or maybe they're saving their big guns for later which I'm kinda skeptical about.

But the chicken will come home to roost, Microsoft and their execs constantly pushed the power narrative and buzzwords and the fans were expecting some really jaw-dropping stuff which we didn't get, there might be some sort of backlash but rightfully so.

Their fans will never ever criticize MS. I would love to see it. I would love to see people who said a cross gen Halo would look better than what MS showed at e3 2018. It clearly doesnt. Will they come here and admit they were wrong? I doubt it.

Will they finally turn on Phil for underwhelming once again after talking a big game for months? Didnt he say he was feeling much better after the PS5 reveal? This is far far worse than what Sony showed. Both in terms of substance and games.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

at least the Xbox Series X is true RDNA 2 unlike that dam PS5 with it's RDNA 1.5 with its more visually stunning games!

 

[SlimySnake]

Is there any game that showed more raytracing than Ratchet & Clank at today's event?

Forza had a lot of ray tracing.

Pretty sure the fable trailer had ray traced reflections. But i dont know if either of those games were realtime. so i dont think it really matters.

 

[DForce]

Insiders were hyping this show up and said there was going to be a mic drop moment.

I'm not going to name names, but they said the same thing before last year's E3 and the same thing happened.

Phil Spencer's biggest launch lineup ever in Xbox history is clearly due to console launch exclusives.

Man... lol.

 

[Dodkrake]

Xbox Series X - Never has last gen looked so good*






*Please excuse the texture pop in, out blazing fast SSD broke the space time continuum.

 

[Zzpaff]

Timodog run to the hills.....

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

How can you expect disappointment but still leave more disappointed

 

[OmegaSpear]

I was hoping the Xbox games showcase would do well. Well it didn't. It was bad imo. I'll probably get the PS5. I don't understand why Microsoft didn't atleast ask third party companies for some exclusive gameplay footage(it doesn't have to be an exclusive game).

 

[Brudda26]

Halo became of victim of there own words of it will not be held back by current gen. It quite clearly is held back.

 

[Knitted Knight]

I'm taking a day off the day the PS5 pre-orders come up. After MS show the competition is going to be insane for that PS5.

 

[Hobbygaming]

at least the Xbox Series X is true RDNA 2 unlike that dam PS5 with it's RDNA 1.5 with its more visually stunning games!

RDNA 1.5 is more advanced than RDNA 2.0 confirmed

 

[Brudda26]

Forza had a lot of ray tracing.

Pretty sure the fable trailer had ray traced reflections. But i dont know if either of those games were realtime. so i dont think it really matters.

Neither were realtime but pre rendered

 

[jose4gg]

Halo said "Old consoles don't hold back games"

 

[Weik]

playdead next game ?
Harry potter rpg game ?

...

 

[sircaw]

HeisenBURG time to run. I AM GETTING MY SHOTGUN

 

[Hobbygaming]

Halo became of victim of there own words of it will not be held back by current gen. It quite clearly is held back.

I thought Halo was going to look ridiculous after that amazing CGI start before the demo lol