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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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SlimySnake

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icerock said:
I also hope now folks can stop lapping up Phils PR, so much about disliking money-hatting? Only to lock ton of timed exclusives themselves.



Not really, they have acquired all types. The problem is (which I've been talking about for months) is that none of these studios have had enough time to push out a next-gen only title in next 2-3 years. It's all in early development, which is apparent by the use of CG trailers. Don't pick on em, but rather MS, they had 5 years to prepare for this launch. When you're hiring and building a studio in 2018, there's simply not enough time to build big budget titles in a 2 year time-frame. These acquisitions should have happened earlier.

MS know this, hence so many 'console launch exclusives' they have locked out.
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this is an excellent point. Remember Phil took over immediately from Don Matrick after e3 2013. He had 7 years. His first aquisition was Minecraft in 2014. he then waited four long years to acquire his second studio. That is where he fucked up.

Still 2018-2020 is still 2 years. Like what was he doing? 2 years isnt enough time to prep a realtime trailer like sony did? we get pre-rendered scenes, not even trailers, for four of their big AAA games? I really dont understand what these studios were doing.

Also, didnt he say he was very proud of the japanese games at the show. what japanese games? PSO remaster?
 
icerock

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MS are going to get panned for this, I hope they and their fans learn from this. Instead of developing theories how media is bought and paid for, they should be pressuring them to get their shit in order. 5 years to prepare for this launch, there are no excuses.

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Forza had a lot of ray tracing.

Pretty sure the fable trailer had ray traced reflections. But i dont know if either of those games were realtime. so i dont think it really matters.
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Fable was CG.

Forza had use of RT, but that was as much a tease as the one from EA in their show. In-engine means fuck all tbh. Show me how the game 'plays' on the actual 'worlds most powerful console'.
 
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zaitsu

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MastaKiiLA

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I think console warriors should feel pretty dumb for all the petty squabbling to date. As many of us predicted, games will look the same on both systems. I don't think there's any point trying to claim supremacy of one system over another, because at the end of the day, you won't be able to discern multiplats from each other, and the best games on each system should offer equally stunning visuals.

My favorite so far are Everwild on the XSX and Horizon on the PS5. Both titles stood out from the pack in their respective shows.
 
SlimySnake

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Just shaking my head after that.

Really thought Fable was going to be that mic drop moment and thought they had more planned for that.

And still didnt see what I was most excited for.

I will just go stand in the corner.
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Did any of your sources promise mic drop moments? Can you call them up and ask them wtf happened? are they being misled by MS?
 
Hobbygaming

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MastaKiiLA said:
I think console warriors should feel pretty dumb for all the petty squabbling to date. As many of us predicted, games will look the same on both systems. I don't think there's any point trying to claim supremacy of one system over another, because at the end of the day, you won't be able to discern multiplats from each other, and the best games on each system should offer equally stunning visuals.

My favorite so far are Everwild on the XSX and Horizon on the PS5. Both titles stood out from the pack in their respective shows.
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Everwild is freaking gorgeous 😍

And yeah, people have been trying to tell these guys that keep talking about the XSX power, that these consoles will be nearly identical but they didn't listen
 
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There has been no Killzone Shadowfall moment for the next gen consoles. I'm now dialing in my expectation in terms of what sort of graphical jump we might see (during actual GAMEPLAY).
 
SlimySnake

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SlimeGooGoo said:
In an ideal world, both Sony and Microsoft starve due to their own incompetence and Nintendo saves the industry again.
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No offense, but Nintendo is refusing to even show up. They are like three generations behind with their 0.19 tflops switch. at least MS and Sony are trying and failing.
 
Wandering Leopard

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Too many in-engine trailers that yes, may as well have been CG.

Many trailers lacked game-play. MS didn't learn from their recent 3rd party indie showcase.

The Medium and EverWild looked very promising - but disappointed they didn't show game-play of either.

Halo looked... With the 5-year dev time and pre-show hype, it didn't deliver - Halo is about MP for most people so it can definitely still deliver.

They shouldn't have bothered including Sennua 2, it seems like it's not coming out for a while (as does Fable).
 
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icerock said:
MS are going to get panned for this, I hope them and their fans learn from this. Instead of developing theories how media is bought and paid for, they should be pressuring them to get their shit in order. 5 years to prepare for this launch, there are excuses.
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To me the showcase showed how mature Sony is with their studio management in comparison. Not really an indictment against XGS. A lot of stuff seemed years away which sort of makes sense.

By mid gen they'll likely have their stuff together.
 
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Forza had better road textures than GT7 at least. Need to rewatch a few trailers in 4K. But. Wow.. that was underwhelming.

I’m personally happy with Spider-Man MMorlares for launch, I think it looks a huge step up of Spider-Man PS4. When we see more footage I think more people will be blown away.

Horizons real time trailer speaks for itself.
They really should have shown some hellblade 2 footage, even if it was a cinematic..
 
sircaw

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
It was bad.

Now we get to hear the old line "We heard you, we failed not showing gameplay, next time will be better."
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I am done with microsoft now seriously, i don't want to hear anymore bullshit out of Phil Spencers mouth. They don't fucking know what they are doing. i am sorry. If you consistently keep fucking and under performing it simply means your shit at what your doing.

I honestly feel like i have been fucking conned.

No more. Done.

Xbox fanboys save your shit, not interested anymore.
 
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I wonder if the long term vision for Xbox is in game pass given how much they are banging on about it? No need to sell a $300-500 box that barely makes any money (or sometimes loses it!) if you can get millions to pay $15 a month for all eternity!
 
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Snowdonhoffen

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Not even the usual suspects are tweeting about it, but yeah, pretty underwhelming. There were some games that really caught my attention like The Medium, Stalker and the Crossfire X campaign. Everwild looked stunning, and the new Obsidian RPG looks like it might be a competitor for The Elder Scrolls.
 
Hobbygaming

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Not even the usual suspects are tweeting about it, but yeah, pretty underwhelming. There were some games that really caught my attention like The Medium, Stalker and the Crossfire X campaign. Everwild looked stunning, and the new Obsidian RPG looks like it might be a competitor for The Elder Scrolls.
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I wonder what Dealer, Colt and TimDog are thinking right now
 
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azertydu91

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Self High Five said:
To me the showcase showed how mature Sony is with their studio management in comparison. Not really an indictment against XGS. A lot of stuff seemed years away which sort of makes sense.

By mid gen they'll likely have their stuff together.
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Yeah but it is the same old tired manthra just wait a few years until they're ready.
It's been a gen and a half how much time do they need?
 
SlimeGooGoo

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SlimySnake said:
No offense, but Nintendo is refusing to even show up. They are like three generations behind with their 0.19 tflops switch. at least MS and Sony are trying and failing.
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And yet they manage to make games generations ahead with Switch's limited hardware. What gives?

Ass of Can Whooping said:
Nintendo needs to save their 2020 line up first
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With a single game (Animal Crossing) they already saved the entire year from disaster.
 
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