Man, MS talking all kinds of ish and at the end they show us this... XD
Why? Becuse they didn’t show Spider-Man gameplay? If they did they would’ve been roasted for it being 30 FPS no matter what. The biggest difference between the shows is that Sony didn’t show gameplay for their launch game.
I don't give Sony any passes...if they piss me off I'll rip them a new one any day of the week.
To be fair I have no dog in this fight, but it's going to be equivalent to what we see in the finished product
Yes and wtf do cutscenes run on? Even Hellblade 2 is said to be running "in-engine". None of this was gameplay and this screen doesn’t disprove that at all.
Agreed #FireGreenbergCompanies do this all the time in the big shows.
I don't get why it's that hard to even make a great video game show. All you have to do is show recorded clips which most of them aren't even a minute or two long. And for shows that aren't even live, you have months to prepare clips and a bunch of people talking into a screen. If any clips aren't good, then re-record it and submit to Sony or MS and they compile into a big hour long show.
The problem with console makers is multifold, but as core gamers we look for gameplay and details. The general public checking out an MS or Sony show they heard about on a Facebook news feed just cares about hyped trailers. After they watch the show, they don't care about games until 6 months later when it's time to buy FIFA.
But if these shows by them are truly trying their best to get hardcore early adopters I think the core problems they have are these:
1. Too many games jammed in, so depending on the game could be anything from 30 seconds to 3 minutes. And half that time is showing the credits of who made it and what the title of the game is.
2. Too many CGI, trailers, renders etc..... which IMO comes from high ego studios who have to show great renders they spent months on. Kind of like when you play a game and they force you to watch cut scenes so their artists could feel good about themselves when most games just want to press a button to skip.
3. Also, sketchy marketing teams trying to bullshot their way to getting your dollars. Now someone might say they do this because the game is so early in dev it looks like ass. If that is true, then don't show it. Show it later. When a car company has a new car to show, they show it when it looks nice just as you buy it in the showroom. A car company will show the care a year out in car shows. You can even sit in it. They don't show you a concept stage where it's a clay mould and the R&D team is still figuring out what it looks like.
For you young gamers who grew up with PS1, back in the 80s you had some magazine ads like this. And on computer game boxes, they were generic for all platforms so they might have pics and actually label it PC or Amiga. No BS. Just straight up.
Most likely yes but doesn’t change the fact it wasn’t gameplay.
It's not though. Thanks for comin by. You're still wrong.
I feel more grounded after today in building a great PC or buying one from NZXT BLD than "next gen consoles" after this summer.
Then it shouldn't. Delay it. This year shouldn't be business as usual. Blame it on Covid, we get it.
There was gameplay of Spider-Man, it looked that good you thought it was all a cutscene?
You just activated my trap card.
Seriously. How have people still not learn what gameplay is after all those years? Some people legit believed the first cinematic trailer of AC:Valhalla was gameplay. Like WTF? How is it not obvious?
The onus is on you to prove that, because the company itself is saying the exact opposite. I don't have to support a damn thing.
Not gameplay. Cutscenes again.This video featured in game footage, you just had to look for it.
It's just the price of cross-gen, the game will be fine it just lacks the next gen features.
I really like how the swinging looks lol, its just a little "extra" compared to Peter's swinging. More erm... Acrobatic? If that's the right word.
Most of it was building a new engine.
I said it wasn't gameplay which it isn't, that's all. The game can look reasonably close to this but this isn't gameplay they showed and it's damn obvious.
Why bring it up then though?
So what? It's still being rendered on PS5 hardware. By your metric TLOU2, Uncharted 4, God of War, cutscenes, GT Sport replays are Pre-Rendered?
The discussion was very clear. HZFW didn't show a second of gameplay. Some guy responds showing obvious cutscenes and "captured on PS5". Neither of which proves it's gameplay especially given the glaringly obvious camera shots of the scenes.
Seems about the same to me (platinumed the PS4 game but my memory is really fucking bad lol).
Nice strawman and hilariously, the cutscenes of Uncharted 4 do look significantly better than the gameplay shots.
PC has always been where performance lies, and Nvidia's 3000 series will be a game-changer (and possibly AMD's next gen) but I still need somewhere to play Sony's first-party games. I mean let's be honest, there's only one God of War.
But that leaves me wondering, after pointing out that the level of fidelity good or bad we have been shown by Horizon 2 is going to be VERY indicative of what we see in the finished product, why you would continue with this thought process
Ok, at risk of derailing the point of this thread...which is address some very real problems with next gen prospects and to call out the most recent show for what it is. I'll stop to humor you because you brought up a conversation from a completely different thread.
