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Fable Hasn't Even Hired a Lead Writer or Game Designer Yet

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Aside from the fact that yes, the game is likely not coming soon (but no one said it would), this kind of speculation from career opportunity ads is super-shaky and potentially very misleading.

Contrary to popular belief, this kind of position being hired DURING development is very common, and in big teams having multiple leads for the same discipline is not uncommon.

While this article tries to make it look like development has just started, is in early production, or hasn't started yet, that's simply clickbait. Nothing in those career ads actually indicates that in any solid way.

A lot of these ads have been there for over a year if not close to two (as per webarchive). They simply added the name Fable, which is normal since now the game has been revealed. Big dev studios hire for this kind of position all the way through development.

I hope you're right, I really do. FWIW, if these sort of projects have multiple leads, why use "Lead" in the titles to begin with? Why not something like "Principal" or "Chief", etc? When I think of the term "Lead" I think of it as a singular person unless it's being attached to a lead team of the project development, as an example.

Unfortunately, even if this is a common practice, most people don't know of it and it just compounds on the Halo Infinite delay that was announced today, so to uninformed it will seem like something of a blow along those lines.
 

pixelation

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Damn... when will we see the tangible "fruit" of all of the changes and acquisitions that Microsoft has made?. Phil has been promising for years and years and people keep waiting, now we learn that Halo will be delayed and Fable is still still quite green in the developing cycle?... don't come at me with the "BUT COVID!!!" defense because Sony devs inhabit the same planet.
 
Aside from the fact that yes, the game is likely not coming soon (but no one said it would), this kind of speculation from career opportunity ads is super-shaky and potentially very misleading.

Contrary to popular belief, this kind of position being hired DURING development is very common, and in big teams having multiple leads for the same discipline is not uncommon.

While this article tries to make it look like development has just started, is in early production, or hasn't started yet, that's simply clickbait. Nothing in those career ads actually indicates that in any solid way.

A lot of these ads have been there for over a year if not close to two (as per webarchive). They simply added the name Fable, which is normal since now the game has been revealed. Big dev studios hire for this kind of position all the way through development.

The fact that they are looking for leads vs just rank and file is a bit more telling.
 

Hezekiah

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2023. Thought that was obvious from the 'gameplay reveal'. I imagine it'll be a relatively short game like some of the others, but they could try the episodic route if they want to rush something out.
 
Playground games have been very upfront about them taking their time to staff up. They announced they had what, 60 people hire by the start of 2020? And they're aiming for 200?
They even said it's the first hirings that takes the longest time because they have to be right.

A team of an average of about 30 people will of course not have made much tangible progress on a AAA RPG.

I understand the disappointment, but gamers caused it themselves, imo. This really isn't news for anyone paying attention.
 
Outside of Halo and third party exclusives most of things showed on xbox conference looked like 2022 or later.
Really makes you wonder what they were doing in last 2-3 years.
 
No. I’m not. Nothing could have been done on this game yet.

All the jobs are advertised here: https://www.playground-games.com/careers/

This isn’t FUD.

How can any work have been done on a narrative RPG when all of these positions are yet to be filled?
well, they are also looking for a lead vehicle artist for horizon. do you think they have no cars?
Lead Vehicle Artist

Playground Games is seeking a skilled and experienced Lead Vehicle Artist to work alongside our award-winning Forza Horizon team


and a principal game designer for horizon. do you think they have no game designed?
Principal Game Designer

Playground Games are looking for a Principal Game Designer to join our Forza Horizon team.
 
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jakinov

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They can still operate without those for now. The next guy higher up makes the decisions instead or they make decisions collectively. Or people with strong personalities or who have a lot of respect among the team can often lead or direct others unofficially. The artists can still draw and make things. The coders can still work on the graphics and visuals. The writers can still brain storm ideas. It's not he head/lead who comes up with everything, they just have more influence/power than the rest.
 

Saber

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One of reasons I dislike CG videos. Even more ones that shows basically nothing. They're smoke and mirrors, only to bait fans but its nothing but "its going to happen" type of attention spammer.

I feel bad for Fable. Was once one my interesting games from its time.
 

Yoboman

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It could be a lot of the staff in those sort of positions on Forza Horizon moved on to the Fable project. Now they are restaffing the Forza team
 

Codes 208

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Part of my hate for their e3-equivalent this year is due to the same reason I didn’t care for the early xbox one e3 events.

of the actual gameplay shown, they often looked disappointing while most of the games shown in general were just cgi. Yes, it’s nice to know fable is in development but holy shit who asked for MOAR cgi reveals?
 

truth411

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I think this is going to be the case for many first party games - Microsoft or Sony - so I wouldn't even expect many Next Gen first party titles in 2021. For example, I doubt Horizon 2 is coming out next year.
Doubt it, i think:
Demon souls
RatchetnClank
Horizon 2
Maybe GT7
Will release in 2021 for PS5.
What's seriously going on at MS right now? So this game is coming over 2023 or later then right? If so, why showcase it before the XSX console even launches?
My bet is sometime in 2024 if this is true.
 
well, they are also looking for a lead vehicle artist for horizon. do you think they have no cars?



and a principal game designer for horizon. do you think they have no game designed?

It looks like Forza Horizon is in very ealy stages of development too.

Looks like MS will rely on small 3rd party games to fill their game pass.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
if you look at my post above, they are also looking for principal game designer for forza horizon.
that doesn't mean they don't already have.
as I said, chill :]

But it's different.

Forza Horizon is a series. They have a lot of systems, designwork done and so one. We're talking about a new franchise since this is a total reboot.
 
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But it's different.

Forza Horizon is a series. They have a lot of systems, designwork done and so one. We're talking about a new franchise since this is a total reboot.
once again, we know they've been working on fable for more than two years

dont be like the poster above me that claims that even "horizon is in the very early stages"
 

ultrazilla

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I thought this game had been under development for years already?! :messenger_sad_relieved:

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Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Fable doesn't have a full development team. And Rare is still discussing gameplay ideas for Everwild. And Ninja Theory just decided Hellblade 2 will be set in Iceland. And Forza Motorsport is in early development. And Avowed is just a concept because Obsidian just shipped a game in 2019 and another one in 2020...
Welcome to every new generation.
 

quest

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This game will never come out. In 3-4 years Xbox will be defunct or sold off to amazon or Samsung.
They could of had the division after Don was fired. No one wants into this game against Sony. So those praying for Microsoft to fail for another player dream on. No one wants to invest billions in a market both Nintendo and Microsoft got run out of.
 

ExKing

says GAF is a racist board but still wants to be a part of it...
Doubt it, i think:
Demon souls
RatchetnClank
Horizon 2
Maybe GT7
Will release in 2021 for PS5.
My bet is sometime in 2024 if this is true.

Those are plans so not set in stone. Uncharted 4, Days Gone, TLOU 2 and Ghost of Tsushima have all been delayed. And we should expect Sony first party games to not being delayed despite track record of the contrary, a new hardware and Covid19 ?
 
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Katajx

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I really used to like some stuff on Dualshockers.

You could find some good news on games that for some reason the big sites wouldn’t even touch.
 
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iorek21

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So almost everything from MS first party is either in early development or Craig’d?

Jeez, they have no fucking clue, do they
 
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