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[AllBizness]

Did Phil say he doesn't care that much about console sales because he knew July NPD numbers were going to be terrible? Can Gamepass maintain steady growth if Xbox moves low hardware numbers? Either way you need hardware to utilize Gamepass may it be a PC or Xbox.

Switch 340k
PS4 150k
XB1 17k

 

[replicant-]

Constricted stock.

 

[TBiddy]

And not many interesting games coming out for Xbox lately, compared to Playstation.

 

[The Shepard]

Think there getting rid off stock ready for the 3 new consoles. One s v2, series s and x. The one x and regular one s are no more.

 

[Astral Dog]

Xbox ONE is dry shit gamers be waiting waiting for that fresh Series X goodness

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

This doesn’t mean much without knowing what the other consoles sold......

 

[H-I-M]

This doesn’t mean much without knowing what the other consoles sold......

+300K for the Switch
+150K for the PS4

17K for the 'consumer friendly, cross gen, Gamepass' Xbox One.

 

[Three]

This doesn’t mean much without knowing what the other consoles sold......

Switch 340k
PS4 150k
XB1 17k

 

[oagboghi2]

It's impossible to find new stock for xbox one X out there. I had to settle for a refurbish one

 

[Stuart360]

Why would Gamepass have an effect on sales?, unless you mean people just buying Gamepass on PC instead.

 

[Simpkin92]

I haven’t seen any stock for a long time

 

[Zoro7]

That’s abysmal. Compared to the other two consoles. Switch is absolutely smashing it!

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Xbox One X has been obseleted, and another model. But these sales are so ridiculously low, that doesn't explain it. Maybe MS have stopped re-supplying units since April/June.

It's impossible to find new stock for xbox one X out there. I had to settle for a refurbish one

See above they've discontinued XB1X so no wonder.

 

[Three]

It's impossible to find new stock for xbox one X out there. I had to settle for a refurbish one

They discontinued it for a reason and continued selling the One S (which is still being produced) why do you think that is?

The One X sells less than the One S. If you're only selling 17K xbox ones how many One X do you think you're selling?

 

[Hezekiah]

What recent releases have their been on it?

 

[YeulEmeralda]

At the risk of sounding like a Xbox hater:

These past few months I see lots of discussion on forums about Sony games.
If people don't talk about your product you're dead.

Horizon, Death Stranding, TLOU, Tsushima. These games draw attention. They are the Sony marketing campaign: 4chan had a meltdown over Ellie for WEEKS.

 

[M1chl]

I think ending up X1X was stupid move, because I am not sure how many people would settle for S version....seems like I was right.

 

[John254]

Nope
It's called "We are out of stock" effect

But nice try

 

[splattered]

Well i saw twitter posts showing a target store leak of Xbox One S version 2, maybe they let the well dry up to make room for v2?

 

[mckmas8808]

Gamepass shouldn't have much to do with these sales.

 

[Stuart360]

Hopefully its people waiting on XSX, and this is actually a good sign. I dont know why anyone would buy a XB1 now. Then again i dont know why anyone would buy a PS4 now, this close to next gen, and PS4 is still doing ok so fuck knows.

 

[NickFire]

Those are really bad numbers compared to the competition IMO. Regardless of the cause, a 9-1 split for the major competitor is a bad sign for the brand. I don't see how this can be attributed to gamepass though.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Switch 340k
PS4 150k
XB1 17k

 

[MiguelItUp]

....This has nothing to do with Game Pass though?

 

[FeiRR]

I like it how some people try to excuse low sales with stock problems, like it's not a failure of the producer at all.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Those are really bad numbers compared to the competition IMO. Regardless of the cause, a 9-1 split for the major competitor is a bad sign for the brand. I don't see how this can be attributed to gamepass though.

More concerning for MS is they've got the momentum of a wet tissue going into the new gen its slowed so much. Strong exclusives at the tail end of PS's last 2 gens has helped them massively but MS havent been taking notes but doing the opposite.

 

[mejin]

Switch is 3 years old.
PS4 and Xbox are both at the end of their life cycle. They just have different approaches for gaming.

One has the best transition for a new gen, the other has the worst.

 

[Andodalf]

I haven’t seen one in stock for months

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

They just don’t seem to be sending any to stock at all. It’s rare to see a Switch, it’s uncommon to see a PS4, I haven’t seen any Xbones at retail in months.

Obviously the SAD and Scorpio won’t be getting restocked, they are discontinued. But I have no idea why they are slacking so bad on the S.

Also, what does GamePass have to do with this, lol.

 

[Vasto]

 

[Oppoi]

Financially it would serve them well to just drop the console wars and go for the gamepass model and if they could find a way to keep bringing big guns like Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 untied of a console launch they will have a chance to grow even bigger than Sony.

 

[SlimySnake]

no way. really? that cant be right. thats worse than abysmal.

 

[jimbojim]

Constricted stock.

Same as PS4. Just checked nowinstock.net. Both are out of stock

 

[GHG]

Did you even read the tweet you posted?

This is a hardware thread talking about the recent abysmal hardware sales and the tweet you posted says their hardware was down 30% in the last FY.

 

[jimbojim]

It's impossible to find new stock for xbox one X out there. I had to settle for a refurbish one

I haven’t seen any stock for a long time

Xbox One X has been obseleted, and another model. But these sales are so ridiculously low, that doesn't explain it. Maybe MS have stopped re-supplying units since April/June.



See above they've discontinued XB1X so no wonder.

They discontinued it for a reason and continued selling the One S (which is still being produced) why do you think that is?

The One X sells less than the One S. If you're only selling 17K xbox ones how many One X do you think you're selling?

Doesn't mean if X1 consoles are discontinued in July, there are no consoles in sales. Bunch of retailers had X1 in warehouses or on the shelves. Btw. who would by X1S if X1X was so dirt cheap.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Well you win strangest thread title of the year for sure

 

[Esca]

Damn it's still out selling the vita

 

[Knitted Knight]

Head honcho says he doesn't care about selling the box... doesn't support the box with quality exclusives relative to the competition... etc...

Safe to expect consumers to show in kind the same love, or lack there of. Everything is going to be fine I'm being told -- in alternate universes. Makes me even question whether that 2-3 million hardcore will even be there in November for them. At this point anything is possible with them.

 

[AllBizness]

Why would Gamepass have an effect on sales?, unless you mean people just buying Gamepass on PC instead.

Nope
It's called "We are out of stock" effect

But nice try

Gamepass shouldn't have much to do with these sales.

....This has nothing to do with Game Pass though?

They just don’t seem to be sending any to stock at all. It’s rare to see a Switch, it’s uncommon to see a PS4, I haven’t seen any Xbones at retail in months.

Obviously the SAD and Scorpio won’t be getting restocked, they are discontinued. But I have no idea why they are slacking so bad on the S.

Also, what does GamePass have to do with this, lol.

But the internets told me Gamepass would move hardware. Plus lots of gamers on these same internets saying they are choosing Xbox due to Gamepass. Is this one of those vocal minority situations?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Doesn't mean if X1 consoles are discontinued in July, there are no consoles in sales. Bunch of retailers had X1 in warehouses or on the shelves. Btw. who would by X1S if X1X was so dirt cheap.

Well I think One X sales must have been very low that stock being sent to retailers was tiny several months leading up to the discontinued announcement.

 

[LisaMariaMartin]

They didn't release a high profile game in ages. Gears 5 was the last I believe?

 

[Vasto]

Did you even read the tweet you posted?

This is a hardware thread talking about the recent abysmal hardware sales and the tweet you posted says their hardware was down 30% in the last FY.

Did you even read the tweet I posted?

The tweet I posted is talking about $$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[AgentP]

It's impossible to find new stock for xbox one X out there. I had to settle for a refurbish one

I should sell mine, I use it to charge my PS4 controller...

Selling for over $300 on eBay, I think I paid $350.

 

[Golgo 13]

Hopefully its people waiting on XSX, and this is actually a good sign. I dont know why anyone would buy a XB1 now. Then again i dont know why anyone would buy a PS4 now, this close to next gen, and PS4 is still doing ok so fuck knows.

People still buy PS4 right now because
1) They’re replacing a broken console (least likely)
2) They’re buying it for the first time because it’s got an amazing library of exclusives that are mostly now, dirt cheap.
3) They don’t know that the PS5 will be almost fully back-compat/don’t give a shit anyway, and wouldn’t pay launch prices even if the console let you walk on water

 

[Eliciel]

Wait for August and MS Flight Simulator

 

[Self High Five]

Did you even read the tweet I posted?

The tweet I posted is talking about $$$$$$$$$$$.

Did you read it?
FY2020 (Jul 1, 2019 - Jun 30, 2020)

Check the thread title. This is regarding July 2020 NPD.

 

[Max_Po]

 

[EverydayBeast]

Good sign that Gamepass helps it’ll be huge next gen with all the hype Micro$oft gives it

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Those are really bad numbers compared to the competition IMO. Regardless of the cause, a 9-1 split for the major competitor is a bad sign for the brand. I don't see how this can be attributed to gamepass though.

I don't think the OP was attributing it to Gamepass so much as poking fun at the idea that Gamepass is, by itself, a game-changing system-seller.

 

[The Alien]

3 months left in a gen.
Severely reduced available stock.

This news?