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[Wraith Phantom]

I believe it was said MS Direct Storage API is powering RTX I/O

Word!!!

Doesn't look like cernys stuff. Its Missing elements a few elements. Seems exactly like MS's solution , which ain't it. Geordie & the like will make sense of it. I'll wait on them. But this shit look spooky all talk ,no show ,charts. Hmmm!!

The marbles were minecraft level demo. Thats xbox level territory. Especially when you say its MS direct to storage. I didn't here any co-processor,cache scrubber talk. That shit look spooky.

 

[ksdixon]

Have Sony said anything about saving multiple games in memory and being able to swap between them? I was certain this was confirmed before MS confirmed it for XBSX, but now I'm not sure since I'm having issues finding the info again.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

So after NV show XSX must be priced lower than 500$ to make anyone even consider buying it over PC.
This is very happy news for us - becuase I'M like 99% confident over pricing both consoles at 499$, with PS5 DE at 399$ and XSX at 299$.
It will be as cheap as this gen was.

Something isn't adding up for sure. In 2013 there was the 3GB GTX780 at $649 (later reduced to $499 for AMD's 290) with 8GB of equally fast GDDR5 PS4 at $399.

Now we have the vastly superior in many areas RTX3070 at $499 with zero competition (maybe reduced if AMD play hardball with RDNA2 GPUs?).

Even I'm now wondering if I'll be better off adding a GPU to my PC knowing about the I/O tech....?

 

[T-Cake]

That nVidia 3070 looks sweet. I hope the damn thing will fit/run in my PC without needing new power or anything. If it saturates PCI Express 3.0 x8 lanes then I'm screwed.

 

[Saudumm]

Have Sony said anything about saving multiple games in memory and being able to swap between them? I was certain this was confirmed before MS confirmed it for XBSX, but now I'm not sure since I'm having issues finding the info again.

We still know almost next to nothing regarding PS5 software features.

 

[ksdixon]

WWE 2K19 PSA: The Sharing Servers (Community Creations Servers) for created assets (wrestlers, belts, logos, arenas etc.) are saying open until the release of WWE 2K22 in Oct/Nov 2021.

 

[SSfox]

The game looks quite impressive and neat, can't wait for this on PS5!!
PS: With no surprise, still no showing for PS4/Xbox One builds lol

 

[kyliethicc]

So next gen consoles and RDNA 2 must have put pressure on Nvidia to go for lower prices than expected.

Could AMD have asked Sony and Microsoft to wait to announce prices til later, and also held back RDNA 2 prices, all in a unified plan to keep Nvidia guessing and hope they'd announce 3000 prices first? The consoles are AMD RDNA2 as well after all.

Maybe that and covid pushed all this back. AMD should show their stuff soon now. Maybe all the RDNA2 GPUs & consoles will announce prices soon?

 

[sircaw]

So after NV show XSX must be priced lower than 500$ to make anyone even consider buying it over PC.
This is very happy news for us - becuase I'M like 99% confident over pricing both consoles at 499$, with PS5 DE at 399$ and XSX at 299$.
It will be as cheap as this gen was.

Starting at 499. hummm. wonder how much the custom cards will be.

 

[ksdixon]

We still know almost next to nothing regarding PS5 software features.

Balls. This is so frustrating.
Did they ever go into more detail on the social sharing of interactive level slices? I'm picturing curated playlists, say, Boss Runs through a game, or something like that?

 

[Lethal01]

So after NV show XSX must be priced lower than 500$ to make anyone even consider buying it over PC.

.... No, no that's really not the case of Sony atleast.
Exclusive games are a giant factor, 30 teraflops will not let you play ps5 exclusives.
Also you need to remember that for PC the price includes CPU, GPU, Motherboard, RAM, SSD.

That aside I'm very happy about RTX IO. Will probably help in rendering really big scenes. in cycles. in addition to the obvious advantage in gaming.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Look you know my status and I'm looking at this picture with a true final understanding of Alex's more feminine qualities as of late. Wow this says so much. Why would he do this - that takes something like balls to do in his position!?

Well, I think he's straight, but it's not about his preference. Posting nudes doesn't look good for anyone in his position.

 

[Entroyp]

Yes of course, im playstation guy.
But new nvidia cards performance/price is sweet as hell.

Being totally realistic 3070 will smoke consoles for 499$, they can't price it higher than that.

Absolutely. We all win at the end of the day.

 

[kyliethicc]

Starting at 499. hummm. wonder how much the custom cards will be.

what custom cards? for the consoles?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So after NV show XSX must be priced lower than 500$ to make anyone even consider buying it over PC.
This is very happy news for us - becuase I'M like 99% confident over pricing both consoles at 499$, with PS5 DE at 399$ and XSX at 299$.
It will be as cheap as this gen was.

This make those clowns suggesting $700-1000 for next gen consoles look bad. Glad Nvidia made such a move, now waiting for AMD's offering, it'll be tough to beat that.

 

[ErRor88]

 

[sircaw]

3 new passengers, welcome aboard folks

Can't seem to find TheGreatWhiteShark , he keeps telling me he is a sony fan, can we add him if he's not there..

Perhaps under the Word SILENT. (Hint Hint)

 

[Tiago07]

They literally double everything, even the Cores.

 

[sircaw]

what custom cards? for the consoles?

not for consoles, i mean graphics cards partners. You know Asus, gigbit Msi etc etc

 

[Killer Sakoman]

that audience likes to play with Tflops rather then games. i would never buy any of pc card even at low prices if they don't have big 5 like sony has, because i look at games when i buy HW not numbers.

You basically stated the reason why I don't invest on PC anymore. But there are those mid tier tech PC who could have considered XsX for mext gen instead of upgrading. Nvidia just gave these guys a better experience than XsX with a great price and higher value.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Guy is absolutely creaming himself.

 

[kyliethicc]

This make those clowns suggesting $700-1000 for next gen consoles look bad. Glad Nvidia made such a move, now waiting for AMD's offering, it'll be tough to beat that.

Do you think AMD did not want to reveal their prices first and asked Sony and Microsoft to hold off showing next gen prices too?

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

For the last part to be true, microsoft has to deliver BIG TIME on DX
otherwise its just sweet dreams

Can't seem to find TheGreatWhiteShark , he keeps telling me he is a sony fan, can we not add him if he's not there..

Perhaps under the Word SILENT. (Hint Hint)

You put me on that train, I eat half of you, swearing at me all the time etc

 

[sircaw]

You put me on that train, I eat half of you, swearing at me all the time etc

He wants on!

 

[zaitsu]

After lame 2000 series ( Goodluck with selling those 2080ti for more than 499$) , Ampere is total badass.
I will still buy PS5 day one, but really whats the market for XSX ?
Hardcore graphic whores will choose PCMR, and Sony exclusives whores will choose PS5.
It looks like market for XSX and XSS are poor people.

 

[hemo memo]

Want to order the new PlayStation 5? Good luck | CNN Business

If you were hoping to preorder the PlayStation 5 as soon as possible, be prepared to jump through several hoops.

www.cnn.com

Sony screwed up. Microsoft too not announcing their cheaper console that got mentioned by every promotional material yet still not officially unveiled.

 

[Neo Blaster]

I went to bed, got up early, went out, worked like a dog.

Came home, Logged on, and Saw 6 pages advanced in this Forums.

I was like yes, this means its news about the console + games

To my fucking surprise i find out it's about Rachet and clanks god damn loading screens.

Who Cares seriously,

Bro, I never thought I would see people arguing about a 1-2 sec load time, it's insane. At least I don't see the bs cause ignore button.

 

[2ndKrueger]

So with all this lovely nvidia news, was this all we're getting today? I thought something console related was teased

 

[Metroiddarks]

So now NVIDIA put effort in try to reduce the cost to decompress SSD PCI4 to reduce to .5 core
and now we see as necessary the IO improvement or not ?

A weeks ago:

-PC fanboy: the SSD and IO improvements are not necessary


Now:

-PC fanboy: well maybe are a little necessary

The IO of XSX will grow old sooner than I expected also NVIDIA only take care of the problem
of the decompression still another layers which need work.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The engine of Dreams is just too good and this guy is just incredible using it

This guy gonna get a job pretty soon!

 

[FunkMiller]

After lame 2000 series ( Goodluck with selling those 2080ti for more than 499$) , Ampere is total badass.
I would still buy PS5 day one, but really whats the market for XSX ?
Hardcore graphic whores will choose PCMR, and Sony exclusives whores will choose PS5.
It looks like market for XSX and XSS are poor people.

The decision to have every XBox game also on PC looks dumber by the second.

...and before anyone jumps in with the ‘but gamepass!’ or ‘but ecosystem!’ reasoning.... you don’t drop millions of dollars on the RnD, design and production of a games console if you don’t care about selling it.

 

[zaitsu]

Want to order the new PlayStation 5? Good luck | CNN Business

If you were hoping to preorder the PlayStation 5 as soon as possible, be prepared to jump through several hoops.

www.cnn.com

Sony screwed up. Microsoft too not announcing their cheaper console that got mentioned by every promotional material yet still not officially unveiled.

The decision to have every XBox game also on PC looks dumber by the second.

...and before anyone jumps in with the ‘but gamepass!’ or ‘but ecosystem!’ reasoning.... you don’t drop millions of dollars on the RnD, design and production of a games console if you don’t care about selling it.

I don't know what MS is doing xD
Everybody know XSS exist, just announce it, tell that games will be there at next E3 (they won't) and go on with it as always.
The real competition for PS5 is PC market.
PS5 has games, PC has power.
Xbox has no games, and not so much power difference to be bothered with.

 

[sircaw]

Bro, I never thought I would see people arguing about a 1-2 sec load time, it's insane. At least I don't see the bs cause ignore button.

I know, it's like a godsend for us in gaming to have these types of loading screen screens and people are trying to nitpick at it cos it's not on the right type of plastic.

Make me the leader and all those people would be dragged out and Shot. I might add a few to the list for sport as pure sport.
Might need multiple rounds for AeneaGames , probably a Gatling.


This is some serious first world problems.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

The decompression through Ampere GPUs maxes out at 14 GB/s. That is the figure that's being quoted in the Nvidia slide. The Kraken decompression unit is capable of 22 GB/s. These are the figures Alex should have compared, but naturally he didn't.

 

[zaitsu]

This make those clowns suggesting $700-1000 for next gen consoles look bad. Glad Nvidia made such a move, now waiting for AMD's offering, it'll be tough to beat that.

There were people who thought consoles won't be on par with 2080.
Guess what, they are and it's called now low-mid range on PC GPU market
Really I'm just happy to see those 2080 lovers, rushing right now to sell their card for half the price.

 

[XO_o]

 

[kyliethicc]

The decision to have every XBox game also on PC looks dumber by the second.

...and before anyone jumps in with the ‘but gamepass!’ or ‘but ecosystem!’ reasoning.... you don’t drop millions of dollars on the RnD, design and production of a games console if you don’t care about selling it.

Only way Xbox will sell volume is if they go really low price. Like $20-$25 a month, no lump sum down, you get Game Pass and a Series S.

 

[INC]

So will I have to upgrade my cpu/motherboard to use a 3080?

I currently have a 3700x and 2080 super, is it compatible?

 

[Imtjnotu]

Sony alone said their solution uses 11 zen 2 cores worth of power. Kinda insane nvidiatis going that route

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

The IO of XSX will grow old sooner than I expected also NVIDIA only take care of the problem
of the decompression still another layers which need work.

This is so wrong though...
for the DXIO to be a success in PC, it will have to be a success on XSX

Furthermore, I really can't believe how some people are spinning the NVIDIA presentation into XSX negative news.
You guys are sick

 

[zaitsu]

The decompression through Ampere GPUs maxes out at 14 GB/s. That is the figure that's being quoted in the Nvidia slide. The Kraken decompression unit is capable of 22 GB/s. These are the figures Alex should have compared, but naturally he didn't.

Conclusion is PS5 is futureproofed and XSX not so much.
Days go by and box with reasons for buying Xbox consoles is getting smaller and smaller....

 

[DonF]

We need prices now that Nvidia has revealed prices for their lineup. And it has to be competitive. The $500 3070 is a beast.

 

[FunkMiller]

I don't know what MS is doing xD
Everybody know XSS exist, just announce it, tell that games will be there at next E3 (they won't) and go on with it as always.
The real competition for PS5 is PC market.
PS5 has games, PC has power.
Xbox has no games, and not so much power difference to be bothered with.

I’m sure Sony would be quite comfortable with their main competition being the PC market, given how expensive entry is into it. There’s a reason millions of people game on consoles and not on PC - well, actually there are two: cost and ease.

All Microsoft have managed to do by having this policy of everything on PC as well, is potentially funnel all console gamers to the main competition, given that only Ps5 will have exclusive games on it.

Who the hell is buying a Series X at this point, and why?

 

[kyliethicc]

The decompression through Ampere GPUs maxes out at 14 GB/s. That is the figure that's being quoted in the Nvidia slide. The Kraken decompression unit is capable of 22 GB/s. These are the figures Alex should have compared, but naturally he didn't.

They're claiming a perfect 2x compression from a max 7 GB/s raw using a PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 SSD. Its very fast, but almost no PC will be able to hit that spec. And it xould still be depend on what CPU is being used too.

All PS5s will be uniform 5.5 GB/s raw and 9 GB/s compressed was just an average.

 

[zaitsu]

This is so wrong though...
for the DXIO to be a success in PC, it will have to be a success on XSX

Furthermore, I really can't believe how some people are spinning the NVIDIA presentation into XSX negative news.
You guys are sick

NV is making from 7 GB/s PCIE-4 SSD 14 GB/S, PS5 is placed around 9 GB/s and even 22 GB/s is perfectly handled.
XSX is standing on miserable 5 GB/s.

There is no reason to buy XSX over PC right now. I'm sorry one ; money.
There is a reason to buy PS5 over XSX and PCs : SONY exclusives tittles.

You have money : PC and PS5
You don't have money : PS5
You don't have money and you want to miss some GOTY games for no reason : XSX, XSS

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Sony alone said their solution uses 11 zen 2 cores worth of power. Kinda insane nvidiatis going that route

11 Zen 2 cores for up to 22GB/s. It's more efficient.

 

[FunkMiller]

Only way Xbox will sell volume is if they go really low price. Like $20-$25 a month, no lump sum down, you get Game Pass and a Series S.

Do you see that happening though? We know SeriesX is not a cheap bit of hardware to put together. How much of a loss can they sell it at? Are we talking worse than Sony PS3 losses? Because... ouch.

In fact, double ouch after the relative failure of the XBone.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

NV is making from 7 GB/s PCIE-4 SSD 14 GB/S, PS5 is placed around 9 GB/s and even 22 GB/s is perfectly handled.
XSX is standing on miserable 5 GB/s.

There is no reason to buy XSX over PC right now. I'm sorry one ; money.
There is a reason to buy PS5 over XSX and PCs : SONY exclusives tittles.

You have money : PC and PS5
You don't have money : PS5
You don't have money and you want to miss some GOTY games for no reason : XSX, XSS

one characteristic of having money, is that you don't make such a big deal about it.
then I look at your posts, they all talk about money and poors....

 

[ErRor88]

RTX I/O = DIRECT Storage API = Big win for Xbox and Microsoft. Microsoft did what Sony did I/O wise but made it universal with PC and Console DX12U.

 

[kyliethicc]

NV is making from 7 GB/s PCIE-4 SSD 14 GB/S, PS5 is placed around 9 GB/s and even 22 GB/s is perfectly handled.
XSX is standing on miserable 5 GB/s.

There is no reason to buy XSX over PC right now. I'm sorry one ; money.
There is a reason to buy PS5 over XSX and PCs : SONY exclusives tittles.

You have money : PC and PS5
You don't have money : PS5
You don't have money and you want to miss some GOTY games for no reason : XSX, XSS

Good news is these RTX 3000 GPUs will drive sales of PCIe Gen4 M.2 SSDs. Same drives used for PS5 expansion. Should help drive prices down over time.