Doesn't matter. Idiots will still spam r/gaming and here about CDPR implementing mtx in cyberpunk 2077
Slow news day the angry mob is bored and needed something to be outraged about. This is a nothing burger. The single player game I'm buying this fall is microtransaction free end of story.It's the year of the lord 2020 and people still complain about MTX in multiplayer games? What the hell.
But... uhh... it's gonna be purely visual changes, I guess? nothing that will change the gameplay or be pay to win.And the games witll be designed around them. How can some people still don't understand it?
And they deserve every penny. No complaints here.
If it was up to me cosmetics if that's all it's going to be should be earned through either playing through the game, buying said thing through player earned ingame currency or by way of accomplishing ingame challenges that rewards players for succeeding at a certain task or group of tasks.
Yeah they're shoehorning in a multiplayer mode with microtransactions for extra money.
And they'll get a pass for it too despite claiming to take the high ground in the past.
Gamers will defend it because Cyberpunk CD Red r cool & hip these days because of how gamer "relatably edgy" their Twitter account is.
Let's hope this doesn't turn into GTA V ONLINE. I'VE heard that the mobile game by them called gwent is very grindy & p2w. So they're no stranger to greed.
did Witcher 3 have any? i don't recall any at all in that game. i don't see this being a big deal. something to keep our eyes on for sure, but if it's just DLC, i have a hard time getting upset w that. a full price experience still delivers hundreds of hours i'm sure.
Yes. Because let's keep demanding more and more from devs while paying the same prices for the last decade. Or even better, let's wait until the games are on sale so they even get less money.
Every single person who's played the game has said a lot of great things about it, bargain bin purchase is such an exaggeration.I actually cancelled my pre-order due to the horrible gameplay video they released. This game doesn't look great, or at least good enough to be more than a bargain bin purchase. Now, microtransactions? Against what they promised? Great.
This is CDPR - they say one thing, and do another. Their p.r. bullshit needs to stop.
lol CDPR have really backtracked on their adamant stance about not implementing micro transactions into Cyperpunk 2077
So long as they keep it out of the single player version, I don't mind as much.
For the micro-transactions of course.
Correct they did say no microtransactions
Reddit user summed up pretty good
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Seed balloon - they need to move the fanbase over from expecting no microstransactions like they claimed all last year, to a place where they can eventually say, "we've always said multiplayer will have microtransactions."
Let's remind everyone what CDPR has said in the past:
Also, that screenshot from the trailer:
In May, when in-game purchases showed up on the ESRB descriptor, they said it was required because they sold expansions and reassured there were no microtransactions. (They're not lying about this, by the away. The ESRB wrote the descriptor exactly the way it did to mask microtransactions and loot crate gambling in the ratings and protect the publishers, as per their jobs.)
Then there is this tweet exchange:
Also this twitter exchange:
They've set the expectation that microtransactions are against their company ethos, constantly deriding them and using it to build a reputation in the community. Because of that, they need to start moving the window over to them being acceptable in multiplayer so they can put them in. That starts by raising a kerfuffle now, not after they reveal their multiplayer mode where fans will lash out. That way when the game releases this controversy is behind them and their fanboys can claim "we've always known this" and retcon CDPRs statements to have always been about single-player only somehow, despite nothing above carrying any caveats of the sort.
CDPR is incredibly good at PR. They know exactly what they are doing, and are going to play the community like a fiddle to get out of the corner they boxed themselves into.
I don't see everything in that post on my mobile. But I don't see anything suggesting they changed their approach to microtransactions in MP. With regards to SP RPG they are consistent. So it is kinda annoying to read to read all those knee jerk reactions, that they lied etc. Not referring to the quoted messages of course.Agreed.
I'm glad, I'm not the only one seeing this. No Microtransactions to, "we won't be aggressive,......but yes to Microtransactions". I knew this team couldn't be trusted when they lied about the whole downgrade thing, then proceeds to talk about "free DLC" ignoring that many publishers do this without making a huge deal out of it. Yet surprise surprise they have microtransactions.... So I'm not shocked even in the slightest as these folks talk a bit too much shit for a developer that is selling folks the rest of the game after release.
Several developers released games this generation where the entire of the game's post launch content was completely free, CDPR clearly is not one of those developers, yet behaves as if selling you the rest of the game and then having microtransactions is ok if they just say they won't be "aggressive" and if they yell "free dlc" while quietly shoving in MTs and selling the rest of the game post launch.
So this claim that they won't have micro transactions, file it under the claim that Witcher 3 won't be downgraded, we've heard them lie before and this is no different. This team simply states things people like to hear, while doing something completely different. They feed off of buzzwords, hype and trying to pretend they are not like the other "big corporate guys" while doing pretty much exactly what those other big publishers do.
S Siri "This is CDPR - they say one thing, and do another. Their p.r. bullshit needs to stop" Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one that see thru this shit.
GHG "I thought the previously said no microtransactions?" They say a lot of things, they have a history of that.
I don't see everything in that post on my mobile. But I don't see anything suggesting they changed their approach to microtransactions in MP. With regards to SP RPG they are consistent. So it is kinda annoying to read to read all those knee jerk reactions, that they lied etc. Not referring to the quoted messages of course.
As regards those, it is interesting. There is some shift in narration, although I don't think there is any bad faith involved... For example with that mamaias interview, the MP wasn't even announced and I am not sure they had decided about the MTX back then... It is even possible they didn't want them initially in the game and changed their minds. For whatever reasons. Was there any interview regarding the MP in which they said no to MTX? I don't remember one but I could have missed it.
Personally I hate the idea of MTX in a product for which I paid, and if I don't like their mp business model I won't buy it. I don't think CDPR cannot do wrong and are perfect, but on the other hand what is such a big deal here? They are going int MP business and they want to make it sustainable, I guess... I wouldn't attack them for betraying their ethos.
Yeah I remember the downgrade thing.If they lied the first time with Witcher 3's downgrade, I no longer give them that assumption that they wouldn't do it in "any bad faith". Once they lied the first time, I'm a bit skeptical about anything they say going forward... So I don't buy that they changed their minds, this was always going to be in this game. I think they just stated PR BS before to tell people what they want to hear to play some bait and switch. Say one thing, do another.
So I think maybe they should not have been so eager to talk shit and throw shade about other publishers while clearly having this shit in their game.
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Don't buy any microtransactions if you don't want to. Buy them if you want to.
Everybody wins!
Yeah I remember the downgrade thing.
But even if they assumed from the beginning to use MTX, the MP is supposed to be a separate game. They may look a little stupid now, because they indeed had been saying hell no to MTX without any caveats etc, so I understand what you mean - I think.
But on the other hand, again, we have two different products here. One is single player rpg and they keep the same approach, and the other is a multiplayer game which hasn't been really discussed in detail yet. So when you look at that this way, the Witcher downgrade story is simply worse than this. Maybe I am to old and not care enough, but I just don't see any reason to be pissed at them or play the downgrade card at the moment.
To be honest, I am much more concerned about the cut gameplay or rpg mechanics we may see in cp2077 SP. Because there were some red flags, even if this can be a normal thing during the development.
I hope you realize, that they are making millions if not billions of dollars by just selling a full priced game. It's great that you are so worried about their already super elevated profit margins thoughIsn't it wondaful?
Multiplayer games need servers. So not only do development costs need to be covered up front, say, by having gamers buy the game at launch, someone still has to pay for the hefty server time afterwards.
You can have a model based on paid subscriptions, regular paid expansions or microtransactions, or a combination of the above, to finance your server farms. Each has advantages and disadvantages. Frontloading and charging a steep entry cost doesn't seem to work as well as, say, Gwent's approach, The game is free to play, but offers paid cosmetics and paid expositions that speed up your progress.
Personally, I like shit for free. That's just me. I regularly campaign against microtransactions at McDonalds, when they attempt to charge me for the apple pie and extra fries I consciously order with my Double Mac menus. I find it immoral I don't get them for free. I definitely feel oppressed and marginalized.
All in all, it's great I don't have to sing Psalms to the glory of the free Market when it's convenient for me and then pull a Greta on CD Projekt RED:
"How dare you" charge for stuff?
Please give stuff away for free, CD Projekt, so I don't have to contend with the contradictions in my reluctant self-conscious love for the free market.
FREE DLC
also paid dlc
And it was announced as paid expansion,
now we will get free "next gen" upgrade, again some companies will charge for that.
there ARE reasons to give them benefit of doubt
there are also reasons to be cautious (as the downgrade story shows)
with regards to "NO MTX" - they have a game built around MTX for some time already
I think it is best to judge the game as it is released, than look back at the old gameplay trailer and pick what was cut.