kyliethicc
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Hes not even correct either. Its funny. XSS is @ 3.4 GHz with SMT. PS5 is @ 3.5 GHz max. These console's CPU's are so close. Which is good because it should make game devs job easier.
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Blitzmangoman
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Will it hold it though? Huehue.
DaGwaphics
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kyliethicc
Member
That's Digital Foundry footage in an official Xbox advertisement video, right?
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Dibils2k
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ok fair enough i got them confused
but RUMOURED expensive cooler and controller being full of features still will mean not lower than XSX, as i said $499 at best which Sony should take as they offer better value (exclusives). being more expensive would be the risky part but matching should be fine
Wooxsvan
Member
embarrassing. These journalists with huge audiences really need to keep their mouth closed when they aren't technically savvy. They literally spread misinformation like this. Looking also at Ryan McCaffrey at IGN...
Dodkrake
Banned
So far they haven't showed a single game utilizing it so.
How do you know? Did they state it wasn't, or are you assuming?
Neo Blaster
Member
Damn, not this BS again, what a douche.
Dodkrake
Banned
Rumored is not the same as effective. Also, Sony is producing 1 APU, MS is producing 2, so its very likely MS is paying MORE per component due to that and lower sales last gen.
TheDude108
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UK twitter after Xbox price announcement
Empire Strikes Back
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Inconsistent too. As
Dodkrake
pointed, it can go from 0.83GB/s in a game to 2.5GB/s in another one. I wonder what the bottleneck is since it's clearly not hitting the raw speed as baseline.
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3liteDragon
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Looks like we got more comin this week.
WelshBluebird
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Interesting how the Series X launch price in the UK is higher than the PS3 launch price here, yet the reaction has seemed to be very different!
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It's not all i/o.Xss ssd 12 seconds for a last gen gameI guess velocity architecture didn't get the memo to be 3 seconds according to some
A game like that runs a bunch of calculations for enemy placement and other simulations.
Really the not super impressive quick resume stuff is how you should be measuring I/O. But it's only not impressive next to PS5, which is just world beating with it's i/o.
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DaGwaphics
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That's what I'm thinking. But then I'm like:
How does that math work. How can you reach 10GBs on less than a 160bit bus and have the same throughput for the entire pool with no interleave?
Shio
Member
Did you see that they mentioned specifically that all the games were running on an Xbox Series S?, could it be that all this time all the games were running on an Xbox but because the Series S had not been announced they couldn't say "Running on a Series S" and as it was not running on a Series X they could not say that either and thus everyone was like why is nothing shown running on a xbox. Could just be that the Series S is more along that the Series X and they want developers to first optimize and develop on the Series S then just add bells and whistles for the X version. Looked good to me though, still a it skeptical though and would would be pleasantly surprised if after comparisons only resolution was the differentiating factor between Series S and X.
PSX
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Series S will sell like hot cake it's so cheap for this little tiny powerful machine. A lot of people won't miss on this one, MS did really good job. I probably will wait a 1-2 year to get it,
when Xbox show good exclusive games. glad to see the challenge there from MS, Sony been killing it. competition is healthy for our gaming industry to grow.
when Xbox show good exclusive games. glad to see the challenge there from MS, Sony been killing it. competition is healthy for our gaming industry to grow.
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kyliethicc
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Pretty fun that Microsoft will not discuss the Series S GPU... no flops, no CUs, nothing. Just it has a GPU.
LucidFlux
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I wonder if this is partly why loading isn't quite as fast as expected on the XsX. A couple hundred MZ shouldn't change much when the decompression blocks themselves are being compared to many many CPU cores.
IIRC the XsX CPU only commits 10% of a single core towards I/O ops, but maybe throwing more of the CPU at decompression wouldn't change a thing and it's all the latency bottlenecks PS5's I/O addressed which allows it to fully realize it's SSD bandwidth.
DaGwaphics
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They haven't showed any new software, but it is just an assumption.
Wraith Phantom
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Xss ssd 12 seconds for a last gen game
geordiemp
you been telling them that Xbox SSD is no different to standard PC one. Why do they keep showing quick resume when its slow. The switch is'nt seamless as they say. Shit looks goofy.Just say you can go between multiple games. Dont say any "quick" stuff. It looks goofy in the demo vid.
xGreir
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Even if it where 100 mhz faster at a stable rate, aside of negligible, it does not matter even a bit.
To make such statement, he must be really fanboy, or just imbecile (sorry not sorry)
He does not even know that coding for each console can be vastly different, and even with faster clocks, XboxS is going to use a lot more of CPU capacity to make up for all the downsides it has, right?
kyliethicc
Member
Well 128 bit bus implies 4 chips.... 3 GB x2 + 2 GB x2 = 10 GB, but that would split the bandwidth, a portion would be even lower than 224.That's what I'm thinking. But then I'm like:
How does that math work. How can you reach 10GBs on less than a 160bit bus and have the same throughput for the entire pool with no interleave?
Idk.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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then I guess we have to wait until amd reveals ....rdna3 before sony does the hardware stripdownBut what if the XSX isn't the world's most powerful console(RDNA 3)
Shio
Member
But what is it doing when it is swapping games in around 4 seconds? Is it because when it is swapping its just simple memory loading/saving whereas loading the game in 12 seconds was loading the game and then all the processing from the game logic?
Neo Blaster
Member
People must be like this on the internet about Sony:
UK twitter after Xbox price announcement
Dodkrake
Banned
Inconsistent too. As
It's more nuanced and not as optimistic.
Minecraft, according to someone else here on the thread, is 6GB on disc and is using quick resume (which I suppose saves a state somewhere in RAM / SSD).
So, loading a Save Game in Outer Worlds is done at 0.83GB/s, and Minecraft resumes its state at 2.5GB/s. This is assuming Full Ram utilization. If you drop it to 7.5GB RAM occupation and the rest for OS, it's down to 0.63GB/s and 1.88GB/s respectively.
So, seems like switching games is faster than loading games, but both are a far cry from the RAW (not compressed) capabilities of their super fast quantum architecture.
Games Dean
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The war (of attrition) is over!!
Wooxsvan
Member
right. hes not even comparing the numbers correctly. PS5 is faster in the most likely mode chosen by devs. Series S CPU 3.6ghz (3.4GHZ SMT) vs PS5 SMT 3.5. This guy acting like a fanboy clown.
DaGwaphics
Member
This is probably it. That would essentially make the underlying OS the only thing touching this slow pool, so maybe they can make a 64bit bus work there without issue. Interesting that they didn't explain this at all and only used the higher number, when they didn't do the same on XSX.
3liteDragon
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The main reason I called him out is cause both CPU's on the PS5 and Series S are HIGHLY customized, and yet here we have a "journalist" being like, "Yup Series S CPU is faster than PS5" over a 100MHz difference lol.
BlueXImpulse
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You expect Tom Warren to know what he's talking about?
saintjules
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No mention of PS5 there
Entroyp
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That’s what I was saying... Can’t believe that clown
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BlueXImpulse
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xPikYx
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Pound has become shit!
Empire Strikes Back
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Because the PS5 releases after Nov 10 probably.
Blitzmangoman
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Because Sony doesn't say shit. They have to announce first, then you will see the publishers include the PS5.
SSfox
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kyliethicc
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But it would be dishonest to say the console has unified bandwidth if its not. Thats what's confusing.
FunkMiller
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Ok then. Now it's time for Sony's response. They've clearly been keeping their barrels dry - and here is the reason. XBox is now out there for all to see. There's no hiding anymore. They've set out their stall.
One of two things will now happen: Sony will just follow suit with a similar SKU price reveal, release and pre-order date.
Or... they'll avoid doing the same thing, and start dropping game reveals. Possibly big exclusive game reveals.
I know which one I'd pick.
One of two things will now happen: Sony will just follow suit with a similar SKU price reveal, release and pre-order date.
Or... they'll avoid doing the same thing, and start dropping game reveals. Possibly big exclusive game reveals.
I know which one I'd pick.
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FranXico
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It's all marketing footage.
BlueXImpulse
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Assassin's Creed: Valhalla will run at 4K 60FPS on Xbox Series X
Ubisoft have officially confirmed that Assassin's Creed: Valhalla will run at sharp 4K resolution and 60 frames per second on Microsoft's next-gen console Xbox Series X.
www.altchar.com
Shi11
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UK twitter after Xbox price announcement
Series S is trending at 220k tweets.
Neo Blaster
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Marketing agreement.
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