Sinthor
Gold Member
lol. I hate when that happens. You've used something on your computer or elsewhere for YEARS and then someone goes....BOOP! And you sit there thinking, 'how the HELL did I miss that?'
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Faithless83
Banned
My only problem is the PS Store, it's sluggish AF. But for everything else I just use the menu. Checking trophies of the current game I'm playing, who's online, turn off PS4, it's all there. I'm curious about the UI on PS5 but as long as they keep this feature, it's all that matters to me.
xacto
Member
It can be done, but it's still not snappy or good enough; especially when dropping out of a game, with the PS4 button on the controller, it's moving like it's through molasses. I don't even want to start talking about PSN parties.... it's a pain.
They have no excuse for NOT having a responsive UI this time around, and I want also all those things
kyliethicc
mentioned - switching in between games, the resume function, cold boot up of the console. I understand, don't show me half finished games which are "not representative of the final product" but hell, show me at least the UI. You can do that Sony, without breaking NDA's with AMD or someone else.
Sethbacca
Member
Yeah if I open the store or PSNow it slows right the fuck down. I'm not sure what the deal is there. Hopefully the additional power will make it all snappy.
BGs
Industry Professional
That's why you're my favorite insider™
FunkMiller
Gold Member
lol. I hate when that happens. You've used something on your computer or elsewhere for YEARS and then someone goes....BOOP! And you sit there thinking, 'how the HELL did I miss that?'
Ha ha! Yeah! How can anyone have missed that, eh?
MasterCornholio
Member
Only two ways this can go. Either the secrets will be fantastic news when they come out or bad news when they release. If there's one thing I'm certain of is that it will he huge once it's revealed. For better or for worse.
xacto
Member
Guys want a PS5 but don't know half of the stuff in their PS4, come on boyz
This reminds me of a YouTuber who was complaining that he still gets the on/off button mixed up on the face of the PS4 console
Blitzmangoman
Member
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Probably don't want MS to try and rip their ideas off, so the longer they leave it, the longer it will take for MS to get equivalent features in to their OS.
Faithless83
Banned
Agreed! My PS4 HDD is showing it's age and I'm about to switch to a SSD one. I'll see how much difference does it make on the UI. I'm hoping for it to be a bit faster.It can be done, but it's still not snappy or good enough; especially when dropping out of a game, with the PS4 button on the controller, it's moving like it's through molasses. I don't even want to start talking about PSN parties.... it's a pain.
They have no excuse for NOT having a responsive UI this time around, and I want also all those things
I understand, don't show me half finished games which are "not representative of the final product" but hell, show me at least the UI. You can do that Sony, without breaking NDA's with AMD or someone else.
I'm surprised at the replies about this.
It's a Sep 2016 feature guys.
kyliethicc
Member
Its only gonna be about 350 GB or so usable. That sucks if you're coming from a 1 TB Xbox One S currently. Its enough, but they should offer a 1 TB model for a bit more.
It will depend on the price of the expansion card. If thats only say $100, then it's fine.
Faithless83
Banned
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Md Ray
Member
Sadly I don't think we'll be getting this until the launch of the console or at least until the reviews are out.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not buying into "Sony were blindsided by the Series X/S prices". It sounds like nonsense.
Heck we had fellow gaffers predict the price very accurately and we had leaks. But Sony didn't know? LOL
I think they had a good idea of what Microsoft's pricing was going to be. Curious to see wether Sony plan on undercutting them or wether they'll price match. I think the former is more likely.
Heck we had fellow gaffers predict the price very accurately and we had leaks. But Sony didn't know? LOL
I think they had a good idea of what Microsoft's pricing was going to be. Curious to see wether Sony plan on undercutting them or wether they'll price match. I think the former is more likely.
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CouzinD
Member
Who wants to see this as the boot-up of the PS5 but with the new Sony Studios logo incorporated...
Ahhh man, the glory days.
DaGwaphics
Member
IKR, like 90% of gaf had MS targeting the One S and One X price points, but Sony had no idea. Most of us have thought $399 for PS5 DE, we'll see if that holds up as well.
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Three Jackdaws
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Entroyp
Member
lol it’s beyond ridiculous people think Sony was blindsided when half the internet got it right to the cent.
If Sony’s plan was to sell the disc edition for $599 it will be $599... if it was $499 it will be $499.
BoxFresh123
Member
This all seems rather logical and well thought out but to counter that I raise you with..........
Faithless83
Banned
I doubt they played chicken all this time to release a more expensive box. It's either matching Xbox price or lower.
Handy Fake
Member
cragarmi
Member
Nah just super harsh NDAs, you leak, I kill your wife/partner, kids, pet dog, while you watch, from a wooden box buried alive,If they are able to keep the price a secret for this long, just imagine what other surprises they have stored?
Metroiddarks
Member
Yes in a way, when you delta is not so big like for example PS4/Xbox one and PS5/XSX is probably
you only need to change the resolution and optimize some of the jobs in each console because
yes not everything scale with resolution 1:1 .
The thing with XSS is since the beginning of the gen we have a machine with a big delta in GPU and
memory so they need to invest more time in the moment to optimize.
Probably some say was the same with Pro versions of this gen but not exactly most of the games have
has a target or even the minor requirement the base versions at least in Sony and third party side looks
works in that way, the reason is simple usually is easier to scale above the target than down of that.
Of course is possible to do it but you has studio need to considered the extra effort to do it, because even
if you see the games in PC in many of them AA and AAA has a minimum requisite something similar to a
console so they ignore many features which exists in the high end of PC.
Because remember guys the console in a just a couple of year will become a budget PC in performance
now imagine the extra work to optimize in XSS, another option they start to dev in that console like many
studios does with the base Xbox one with many problems in framerate or resolution even in some first party.
For those who think the delta in PS5/XSX will make some games look noticeable better than they should also
think the XSS will probably just looks horrible.
The truth is probably in the middle is not so good as Xbox say where many games will be running to 1440p with
the same quality as XSX without affect the scope in some way the dev of the game of its big brother but neither that
means the games will looks awful compare XSX or make look the XSX looks much worst, XSS is much more superior
than Xbox One X not only for the CPU also for the features of its GPU, new audio chip and the SSD.
Angel of BOOM!
Member
Just... no.
DaGwaphics
Member
To be fair, if you don't have any qualifiers in place for resolution or render quality, a 750ti could probably outpace a PS5 (@256x224). No lies detected.
BoxFresh123
Member
Nah just super harsh NDAs, you leak, I kill your wife/partner, kids, pet dog, while you watch, from a wooden box buried alive,
They went full on John Wick NDA this gen
MasterCornholio
Member
kyliethicc
Member
The expansion cards are cool, but it will depend on price. The flexibility it offers to remove, use it with another system, or even someday buy 2 and swap them in and out is all great.
All tech has fail points. Even the Xbox cards only have a 3 year warrenty. HDDs fail. If Sony say the M.2 drive works, should be fine.
For the PS5, Sony probably wants to give users more buying options. Same as PS4.
Sony can and probably will just partner with Samsung or whoever and throw a "PS5 approved" sticker on some M.2 drives.
Both Sony and Microsoft did that with external HDDs for current gen.
Like this:
But it will certainly be installed internally into the PS5 and not easily removed, unlike the Xbox card.
Thats's my main interest in a teardown. I want to see the PS5 expansion bay.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
kyliethicc
Member
Great job guys. Love seeing this fucking retard's tweets.
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Rocco Schiavone
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
Not sure where or who is saying this but it is common sense they have a very good idea what each other is doing.
E.g. take the example of PS5's variable frequency tech. Microsoft emphasised to DF multiple times during their XSX visit their clocks would be fixed and wouldn't vary. They obviously already knew PS5 had some sort of variable clocks (via the dev community?).
I'm sure both MS/Sony have designed the consoles to a certain retail price with a bit of wiggle room either way for various force majeure.
BatSu
Member
Mahavastu
Member
I am sure there will be some clever guy in china who will find a solution, for example L form?
The adapter will be cheap and with time the slower SSDs will be extremly cheap too, or you can use one from the old PC. Will work, and for a good price it will sell
TTOOLL
Member
Who wants to see this as the boot-up of the PS5 but with the new Sony Studios logo incorporated...
The GOAT
BlueXImpulse
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kyliethicc
Member
The Xbox will not support them.I am sure there will be some clever guy in china who will find a solution, for example L form?
The adapter will be cheap and with time the slower SSDs will be extremly cheap too, or you can use one from the old PC. Will work, and for a good price it will sell
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