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[Xaero Gravity]

PS5 the only console capable of doing RT at launch.

Hasn't this been disproven a bunch of times already?

 

[ManaByte]

Hasn't this been disproven a bunch of times already?

Yes

 

[TheMay30thMan]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Yes

Ahh so it's just Vawn's usual feigning ignorance in order to bait some console wars shtick.

 

[Mister Wolf]

PS5 the only console capable of doing RT at launch.

It also has first-party games.

Watch Dogs is a launch game and has raytraced reflections on both X and S.

 

[Iced Arcade]

That's acct is nothing but bait and shit stirring.

Hasn't this been disproven a bunch of times already?

It's vawn

 

[iHaunter]

Oh no, however, will I liiiiiiiiiive!

 

[Njocky]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

They might be but it's unusual for a publisher to not just use the same wording if the performance is the same across 2 different platforms.
"At" doesn't leave any doubt about the fact that it will be 4k and 60 fps concurrently. Just a 60 fps mode at a lower resolution would satisfy the "and" however.
It's speculation until DF or a similar outlet confirms it with comparison footage.
The PUBG part seems official.

 

[Bernkastel]

PS5 the only console capable of doing RT at launch.

It also has first-party games.

• Bright Memory 1.0
• Man Eater
• Observer: System Redux
• Watch Dogs: Legions

Confirmed to have Ray Tracing at launch(and then we have The Medium on December 10).

 

[dEvAnGeL]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

I'm sure we have a lot of people here that have major in English literature and also graduated in arm chair development.

 

[Aladin]

I'm sure we have a lot of people here that have major in English literature and also graduated in arm chair development.

I think miles morales is marketed as 4K and 60. And it is also confirmed it cant do both simult.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I think miles morales is marketed as 4K and 60. And it is also confirmed it cant do both simult.

That's not confirmed

 

[Holammer]

I'm not touching this generation of consoles, I'm too far gone with PC. But I still get some sick pleasure from watching the discussion.
Gonna be real interesting if the XBox is notably faster and the PS5's SSD doesn't deliver substantially faster loading. Expecting Chernobyl level meltdowns if that happens.

 

[Cato]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

To normal people yes.
But if you really really want them to mean very different things, you can.

 

[KyoZz]

Source:

 

[Plantoid]

nice ssd

 

[alabtrosMyster]

It's from an official UbiSoft press release:

So it's Xbox exclusive for two days!

MS must have taken out those money hats!

 

[Stuart360]

To be honest, i think its just harmless word play, and you shouldnt look too much into this until you get confirmation.
When they do these press releases, they dont expect desperate console warriors to scrutinize every single word.

 

[GHG]

The ultimate 2020 face-off:

At vs And

 

[Piku_Ringo]

I'm not touching this generation of consoles, I'm too far gone with PC. But I still get some sick pleasure from watching the discussion.
Gonna be real interesting if the XBox is notably faster and the PS5's SSD doesn't deliver substantially faster loading. Expecting Chernobyl level meltdowns if that happens.

Don't do that.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

I'm not touching this generation of consoles, I'm too far gone with PC. But I still get some sick pleasure from watching the discussion.
Gonna be real interesting if the XBox is notably faster and the PS5's SSD doesn't deliver substantially faster loading. Expecting Chernobyl level meltdowns if that happens.

lol, same.

Was just saying in another thread, why are folk falling over themselves in the rush to preorder while simultaneously complaining that there’s no worthwhile launch content?

Just chill and wait it out for a few months, jeez.

 

[captainraincoat]

I think the meltdowns will occur when people realise that ssds will not necessarily translate into better graphical performance when 95% of the consoles library is 3rd party

it’s always going to fall back to the cpu/gpu for a majority of a consoles game library

and the secondary meltdowns will occur when they start cutting ray tracing from games as it’s too much of a performance hit

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

It depends what the intent was when they wrote it.

4k at 60 means 4k at 60fps at the same time....
4k AND 60fps could mean that the 60fps mode either drop the resolution from time to time, or it may skip a frame more or less regularly... This is a bit of a stretch, but it could explain the language difference.

 

[mckmas8808]

I think the meltdowns will occur when people realise that ssds will not necessarily translate into better graphical performance when 95% of the consoles library is 3rd party

it’s always going to fall back to the cpu/gpu for a majority of a consoles game library

and the secondary meltdowns will occur when they start cutting ray tracing from games as it’s too much of a performance hit

I see things going the exact opposite way.

 

[Krisprolls]

I think the meltdowns will occur when people realise that ssds will not necessarily translate into better graphical performance when 95% of the consoles library is 3rd party

it’s always going to fall back to the cpu/gpu for a majority of a consoles game library

and the secondary meltdowns will occur when they start cutting ray tracing from games as it’s too much of a performance hit

1st party exclusives are far more than 5% of the games, or maybe you're talking about Xbox only, then I agree I guess. A lot of the games that mattered last gen were 1st party or at least exclusives (Bloodborne, God of War, TLoU2, Uncharted 4... All GotY materials.)

All those 1st party titles could benefit from higher res textures due to the better SSD. If anything, it should increase the already big technical gap existing between Sony exclusives and other games.

It's possible some multiplatform games use higher res textures on PS5 too , it's not that costly, but they have no incentive to make both versions really differ, so the jury's out on that one.

Raytracing is here to stay too both on XSX and PS5, but it's not a revolution, it just adds a more realistic touch to the graphics, nothing groundbreaking until we go full RT (path tracing), which won't happen this gen obviously. RT cost in GPU power is still pretty high compared to what it brings.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I'm not touching this generation of consoles, I'm too far gone with PC. But I still get some sick pleasure from watching the discussion.
Gonna be real interesting if the XBox is notably faster and the PS5's SSD doesn't deliver substantially faster loading. Expecting Chernobyl level meltdowns if that happens.

 

[-Arcadia-]

So it's Xbox exclusive for two days!

MS must have taken out those money hats!

This would make an amazing troll thread, lol.

‘MS secures temporary exclusive rights to every multiplatform game this Fall’

 

[Fahdis]

I'm not touching this generation of consoles, I'm too far gone with PC. But I still get some sick pleasure from watching the discussion.
Gonna be real interesting if the XBox is notably faster and the PS5's SSD doesn't deliver substantially faster loading. Expecting Chernobyl level meltdowns if that happens.

Why are we here? Just to suffer?

 

[Megatron]

and? other has RT launch up games and other dont for next 2 years

this seems like it might have been a sick burn if I only could have understood what you wrote.

 

[jaysius]

Someone call the police, they've murdered my Series S puppy if the S is going to get Xbox One S versions... this isn't a good sign, 30 FPS for the game out the gate ugh, this also proves that MS isn't enforcing "no compromise at 1440p" line from the Series S reveal video.

EDIT: The OUT OF CONTEXT quote is referring to PUBG in BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY mode.

EDIT: That "XBOX NEWS" isn't a real Xbox News site, at least not 1st party it's a shitty twitter with an underscore immediately after the @ meaning it's some jank shit that's trying to piggy back looking official.

 

[bender]

 

[MrFunSocks]

if the S is going to get Xbox One S versions... this isn't a good sign, 30 FPS for the game out the gate ugh, this also proves that MS isn't enforcing "no compromise at 1440p" line from the Series S reveal video.

That's because PUGB is running in backwards compatibility mode. The Series S only runs One S versions via BC, whereas the Series X runs One X versions via BC. There isn't a PUBG Series S/X release.

So no, it doesn't prove your last bit at all. It proves that Xbox One games work via BC and can get free enhancements via unlocked framerates.

 

[jaysius]

That's because PUGB is running in backwards compatibility mode. The Series S only runs One S versions via BC, whereas the Series X runs One X versions via BC. There isn't a PUBG Series S/X release.

So no, it doesn't prove your last bit at all. It proves that Xbox One games work via BC and can get free enhancements via unlocked framerates.

Well shit, thank you for explaining that out of context quote that OP posted.

 

[Jigsaah]

These feel like grammatical distinctions that might give me a nosebleed, but does 4K and 60fps not seem closer in intention to 4K at 60fps, than 4K OR 60fps, if that's what they were trying to say?

Bah. Launch is around the corner.

"up to" is very deliberate phrasing in the gaming world. And yes, we should just wait for launch.

 

[duhmetree]

I think the meltdowns will occur when people realise that ssds will not necessarily translate into better graphical performance when 95% of the consoles library is 3rd party

it’s always going to fall back to the cpu/gpu for a majority of a consoles game library

and the secondary meltdowns will occur when they start cutting ray tracing from games as it’s too much of a performance hit

This is just the beginning. We all expected growing pains to start. Surprisingly, PS5 is running out of the gates. Both will get better as the generation matures

 

[Dirk Benedict]

RTX 2080?

 

[Woo-Fu]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

Making the distinction implies that in the 2nd case the 2 aren't simultaneous. "Yeah, it'll do 4k, and it'll do 60fps, but it isn't doing them both at the same time unless its downhill with a tailwind."

 

[onQ123]

It's from an official UbiSoft press release:

Does this mean that Xbox Series X 4K isn't detailed?

 

[PuppetMaster]

Thats not even the Ps5 edition of the game.

They are saying the Xbox One version runs great on XSX

But that the Ps4 version will run on Ps5 only slightly better. But you can get the Ps5 version, with the full next gen improvements, at no extra cost later.

 

[Maine84]

Ok

 

[Justin9mm]

Who gives a flying fuck about PUBG? Optimisation on that has always been garbage!

 

[MrFunSocks]

Who gives a flying fuck about PUBG? Optimisation on that has always been garbage!

It’s my game of the generation by a country mile, so me?

 

[iamvin22]

Downscale if old

stop giving this twitter account any type of attention. this is not a verified or official xbox twitter account. this is a random fanboy account acting as a official box account.

 

[Gavon West]

But isnt this what the Sony fans were doing in the beginning of the this gen with CoD and resolutions? Of course Series X is going to perform better in pretty much all cases when it comes to 3rd party games.

 

[Craig of War]

Can someone tell me the difference between “4K at 60fps” and “4K and 60fps”? They sound like the same thing..

At means it is at 4k 60fps wile and means it can be 4k and 60fps whats is so hard about that lol

 

[Black_Stride]

I said it before unless the game got downgraded, there is no way this runs at 4k and 60 fps on a PS5. AC games are demanding as hell.

The console version wont be using Ultra High Preset, so 4k60 is doable if using a mix of High and V.High.
IF a 5700XT can do 1440p60 at V.High id think the XSX/PS5 GPUs would be able to carry the consoles to 4K60 with some graphical cut backs.

 

[Armorian]

AC:Or and Od were using dynamic res on consoles. This one will too, no console version will be native 4K in 60FPS, mark my words.

The console version wont be using Ultra High Preset, so 4k60 is doable if using a mix of High and V.High.
IF a 5700XT can do 1440p60 at V.High id think the XSX/PS5 GPUs would be able to carry the consoles to 4K60 with some graphical cut backs.

5700XT is ~10TF GPU, you would need (more than...) 2x that to render this game in 4K with the same settings in 60FPS, consoles are just slightly better than this GPU.

 

[pixelation]

• Bright Memory 1.0
• Man Eater
• Observer: System Redux
• Watch Dogs: Legions

Confirmed to have Ray Tracing at launch(and then we have The Medium on December 10).

Soooo nothing worth while then.

 

[longdi]

4K and 60fps means PS5 is better?

conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences, that are to be taken jointly.

4K at 60fps means Series X does not do both consistently?

preposition
preposition: at

(followed by a noun without a determiner) denoting a particular period of time.