• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

So, a bit pissed that Demon’s Souls is not on PS4?

Codes 208

Member
Gamers: I hate it when games are cross-gen, makes the whole reason to upgrade pointless! “We believe in generations” my ass!

also gamers: why isn’t this game cross-gen?!?
And it just so happens that best path means giving the finger for years of ps4 users asking for a remake or remaster for the console.

Thus OP is pissed off. Not hard to understand.
The very definition of entitlement right here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Isa

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
And it just so happens that best path means giving the finger for years of ps4 users asking for a remake or remaster for the console.

Thus OP is pissed off. Not hard to understand.
Every gen we got exclusive game for that system, so what is there to get pissed off about? Did you got pissed off that Killzone Shadow Fall was PS4 exclusive?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Isa

Tschumi

Member
I hate to be a hardass but... If you want part of the new generation, you should buy the new console. I hear that apparently Sony are gonna be supporting crossgen for a few years or something (in whatever capacity), but unlike xBox they're going to keep certain titles firmly in the 'as envisioned for the ps5' category. Better get used to missing out on, like, two in three big titles or something.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Isa

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
It did originally come out on a $600 USD platform. If you think about it. Now it’s out again on a $500 USD platform. I think the timing of its release is what really angers people. It’s a showcase game for the new console.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Nobody is giving you the finger. Next gen games come with next gen hardware, that's what all gamers want, right? Games to show off what the new machine can do? I understand the Series X|S launched with no games, but I thought as people that liked games, we wanted to see our new consoles get a work out, no?
Except Demon Souls is a ps3 game, not a next gen one. Read the OP, he's not asking for this exact remake, not even in the title.
Feels pretty shitty of sony to take a game people have been asking for years on the ps4 and make it a next gen exclusive.

The very definition of entitlement right here.
"Entitled". I feel a lot of people here don't have problems with money.

Every gen we got exclusive game for that system, so what is there to get pissed off about? Did you got pissed off that Killzone Shadow Fall was PS4 exclusive?
Shadowfall wasn't a remake of a ps2 game
 

amc

Member
Games are a luxury, not a fucking privilege. If you can't afford a new console due to circumstances or the country you live in not being held in a manufacturer's line of sight then just crack on with what you're able to play.

If it's due to not scoring one at launch, hang tight, if it's coz you're in a poor part of the world, thems the breaks. New console launches don't orbit that and you, thankfully.
 
Last edited:

Blond

Banned
Considering I’m paying 1300 usd to play one fucking game?

Bro build a fucking PC
9faS3p3.jpg
 

HF2014

Member
Nobody is giving you the finger. Next gen games come with next gen hardware, that's what all gamers want, right? Games to show off what the new machine can do? I understand the Series X|S launched with no games, but I thought as people that liked games, we wanted to see our new consoles get a work out, no?

Well, its not giving the finger, but its a little slap in the face tbh, its a game we wish and expected to happen on 4 and now its just on 5. Im not that mad about it cause the visual are stunning and it looks new gen, but at the same time, dissapointed we didnt see it threw PS4 spawn of life, were we all wanted it at first.
 

Azurro

Banned
Well, its not giving the finger, but its a little slap in the face tbh, its a game we wish and expected to happen on 4 and now its just on 5. Im not that mad about it cause the visual are stunning and it looks new gen, but at the same time, dissapointed we didnt see it threw PS4 spawn of life, were we all wanted it at first.

Except Demon Souls is a ps3 game, not a next gen one. Read the OP, he's not asking for this exact remake, not even in the title.
Feels pretty shitty of sony to take a game people have been asking for years on the ps4 and make it a next gen exclusive.

It's nonsense to say "PS4 is where we all wanted it", it was a speculated by a few, but the game's existence was a complete surprise when it was revealed for the great majority of people. It wouldn't be the same game either, it wouldn't have been downgraded "a bit".

It's a game developed for a next gen platform and the technology in the game was developed around this fact. Can't you accept this fact and move on? You'll get to play it once you buy a PS5.
 
Last edited:

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Shadowfall wasn't a remake of a ps2 game
So? In every new generation, the new systems going to have exclusives to sell you the system and PS5 is no different.

Also PS4 has Dark Souls series(spiritual sequel to Demon’s Souls), Bloodborne and Sekiro. If someone has no intention of buying PS5 those games can give him/her Souls experience until they get their PS5.
 

Codes 208

Member
"Entitled". I feel a lot of people here don't have problems with money.
I barely make above minimum wage. I traded in two consoles just to buy mine so you’re wrong there. But calling it a middle finger because they ended up making a next gen remake from the ground up rather than port it to a console thts had its limelight for seven years now is just an overreaction imo. Remake or not.
 

amc

Member
Demon Souls being a PS5 exclusive is awesome. Brilliant. More PS5 exclusives please. People can buy a PS5 now/soon and enjoy a premium built for their new machine exclusive.

The pity crowd can play it in a few years when the console drops to cheap.

Everyone wins.
 
Last edited:

Oppoi

Member
Demon Souls being a PS5 exclusive is awesome. Brilliant. More PS5 exclusives please. People can buy a PS5 now/soon and enjoy a premium built for their new machine exclusive.

The pity crowd can play it in a few years when the console drops to cheap.

Everyone wins.

Tear down this wall!
 

Madflavor

Member
I wish it were at least on the PC as well. But I say that soley because it's impossible to get a PS5 at the moment.
 

Aion002

Member
A little bit, but I get that Bluepoint is a small studio so working on two versions could be detrimental to the game and Sony needed an impactful game for the Playstation fans... So it's fine.


I just hope that they can get From Software on board to help BP on a expansion for the Remake, one of the reasons that stopped me from going insane for playing it, it's the fact that other than graphically, the game adds almost nothing to the original... And I want more than that.

Still, next year I will definitely and gladly get a Ps5 and Demon's Souls Remake.
 
Last edited:

_Justinian_

Gold Member
The PS5 has no exclusives right now. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Bluepoint Games (a company known for remastering games), not From Software (the original devs of Demon's Souls), put a fresh coat of paint and added sound effects to a game that was released over 11 years ago on the PS3. It is the exact same game. Flaws and all. It's not an exclusive. I don't care if you add make-up, put it in a dress and tell it to make new sounds at night, it's not going to be an experience you haven't felt before.

Sony did this because it has nothing else to offer right now.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
The PS5 has no exclusives right now. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Bluepoint Games (a company known for remastering games), not From Software (the original devs of Demon's Souls), put a fresh coat of paint and added sound effects to a game that was released over 11 years ago on the PS3. It is the exact same game. Flaws and all. It's not an exclusive. I don't care if you add make-up, put it in a dress and tell it to make new sounds at night, it's not going to be an experience you haven't felt before.

Sony did this because it has nothing else to offer right now.

1568833572429.gif


It's true, but hey, the game looks great and I'm sure a lot of people haven't played the original. 11 years is a lot of time.
 

ZehDon

Gold Member
I’m honestly wouldn’t be surprised if a PS4 paired down version comes at some point in the future. Sony said they’re supporting the PS4 for the next three years. But who knows?
 

Leyasu

Banned
Pissed the best looking game ever made wasn't a dumbed down average looking cross gen trash? Sound logic.
How is everyone going to react when the next Horizon or god of war launch and look better than this, but also have PS4 versions?

It will be fun to revisit these threads
 

FunkMiller

Member
The whiny little bitch quota really has sky rocketed this past generation. Nobody moaned last gen or gens before when launch games didn’t also come out on the old consoles. What the hell happened?
 

MrS

Banned
And which is? Help me understand.
1) Visuals
2) Extremely fast loading.
3) Having a Souls game at launch for PS5 - major selling point for PS5 and a way to pull in the hardcore.

This version of the game is not possible on PS4. A lesser, gimped version, which is what we don't want with new gen, would be viable for PS4 but that defeats the object of remaking the game in the first place. The "it's possible on old tech!!1!" shit is exhausting. Every game is possible on old tech if you want to destroy the visuals, reduce the mechanics and just be left with the bare bones of a game.

There is nothing to be pissed about imho. Sony never said it was coming to PS4 so nobody should feel misled or poorly treated. By OPs own admission "they could get a PS5 if they wanted to". This is just entitled gamer shit once again.
 
Last edited:

HF2014

Member
The whiny little bitch quota really has sky rocketed this past generation. Nobody moaned last gen or gens before when launch games didn’t also come out on the old consoles. What the hell happened?

Would be a different story if it was a new game tbh. Its a remake which was wished or expected during PS4 time. Its one of the reason i didnt go crazy about it to get a PS5 just for it. Its a game iv played on PS3. Sure it look 10 time better, but its still a remake of an existing game.

Story would be very different for me and a lot i think if Bloodborne II was announced. I think i would get browned by a scalper just to get a PS5 if i was not able to get one at launch!

I will get Demon’s Souls one day. And i would have bought a lesser version of it just for the moment on PS4. Its crazy as much im a Souls fan it didnt feel to run for a PS5, but im guessing im in the minority here.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
With 100M PS4 consoles in the wild and the info about the development of this game sounding like it will easily scale to the PS4 CPU - as bluepoint said they weren't using all the Zen2 in their DF interview with John, and all the graphics techniques they mentioned would scale to PS4 at 1080p30, along with oodle textures speeding up loading - so I expect a PS4 version release around the time the game gets its first price discount on PS Store.

This and the £70 price tag for an unoriginal work is the reason I'm not buying it straight away on Thursday, and will buy it when it is at price parity with other games, even though I would really like it, because I never finished the ps3 version and with the new ability to change the controls - presumably if PS4's accessibility options transferred to ps5 - and then finally change the z-targeting button to a better button.
 
Having had a PS4 since launch, I'm absolutely flabbergasted that Sony has the audacity to overlook that loyalty. Who the hell do they think they are? I deserve Demon's Souls on PS4.

Same with Ratchet & Clank. I don't care if they have to ditch raytracing & that fancy portal jumping, we deserve whatever cutbacks are necessary to ensure a PS4 release. The PS5 just merely needs to replace the PS4 Pro, not steal games from the PS4.
 
Sony was willing to sacrifice sales to make it PS5 exclusive. That is impressive to me and honestly is the single reason why I purchased a PS5
 

manfestival

Member
Hey OP, the game is also on PS3 if it bothers you that much.

Also since we are here crying and being butthurt about games not coming to certain consoles. WHERE IS MY POWERSTONE?!
 
Last edited:

njean777

Member
Not mad at all, its nice to have a good exclusive on the new console I just bought. I can see it coming out later maybe, but I mean if we want all the new games to come out on old consoles then what would be the point to ever upgrade? I am happy the most with the bar being set with SSD's, but most people wouldn't be (or don't know how nice Ssd's are to have). IDK it just seems that people want everything they want, then go and complain about nothing being even worth it on new consoles or whatever. You cannot make everybody happy, so just do you and hope for the best.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The lack of bloodborne 4k60 patch is the worst thing ever. Demon's souls is just a prototype to souls anyway
 

Iorv3th

Member
Why would anyone be pissed off? You didn't buy a PS4 to play a game that was never announced for it did you?

Your not entitled to play all the games you want forever on the platforms you currently own.
 
Having the developers focus on only one platform with one set of developing tools, and making the most of the new hardware makes for a far better game. More optimization, more coding to the metal, more focus, less time and resources wasted etc. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I for one do not agree.

In my opinion, since it's a new generation, a new console - and the PS5 needs new exclusive games to take full advantage of that. This is the difference between the PS5 and the XSX/XSS and the difference is massive. The game is bound to be much better and more impressive if it's not cross-gen or cross-platform.
 

Silver Wattle

Gold Member
I'm pissed the demon's souls remake is not on PS2. Arrogant Sony Is back!

No, I'm not pissed about it, in fact I'd be pissed if they wasted resources on a PS4 version instead of 100% focus on the PS5 version.
 

Klayzer

Member
When did all this complaining about exclusives start? People used to understand exclusives were made to sell systems but apparently that flew out the window at some point.
Mostly Xbox fanatics and PC port beggers. Their post history will tell you what angle they will push. Nintendo and Sony fans aren't complaining about exclusives tailored for their systems. Also, some are just parokeeting Phil's flip flopping on exclusives this gen.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom