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Nintendo Switch - One hybrid console will mean more games - what happened to that claim?

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Hitchyhero

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I remember when then switch was announced Nintendo and people were claiming that because Ninty will be focused on one console rather than two.... The amount of games released on the platform will be much higher.

What happened with this claim? Whilst I have loved smash bros, zelda and Splatoon I would still argue that Nintendo arnt publishing game after game after game. I recall the DS/Wii era being busier in terms of game output. Not sure what the 3ds/WiiU era was like but I'm pretty sure the 3ds was busy during its midlife.

My switch hasn't been used since pokemon sword (a game I didn't enjoy at all) and I don't see me playingy switch hardly at all this year.
 
Endless Fluff

Endless Fluff

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Hitchyhero said:
I remember when then switch was announced Nintendo and people were claiming that because Ninty will be focused on one console rather than two.... The amount of games released on the platform will be much higher.

What happened with this claim? Whilst I have loved smash bros, zelda and Splatoon I would still argue that Nintendo arnt publishing game after game after game. I recall the DS/Wii era being busier in terms of game output. Not sure what the 3ds/WiiU era was like but I'm pretty sure the 3ds was busy during its midlife.

My switch hasn't been used since pokemon sword (a game I didn't enjoy at all) and I don't see me playingy switch hardly at all this year.
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Nintendo publishes 12-20 games each year ever since the Switch launched. How many more do you want/need?

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Mista

Mista

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Switch got games, a lot of them. I haven't used mine since Paper Mario but there's constant games releasing

May not be our cup of tea but its not the point. The only thing that pissed me off with the Switch is that Mario Tennis online died quick
 
Woopah

Woopah

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Number of reasons but mainly:

1. A Switch game takes more time and resources than a 3DS game
2. The transition from 2 platforms to 1 does not happen overnight. Resources were still be dedicated to 3DS development in 2017 and 2018.

Even so, Nintendo is one of the most prolific publishers in the industry (usually Bandai Namco is the only major publisher to release more retail games than them.) 2020 was bad for them (for obvious reasons) but in 2019 they published loads of games. 2021 will be a return to form for them.
 
Banjo64

Banjo64

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Seems like we got a half-way house instead of the dream hybrid that I wanted.

It’s too much work to port most Xbox One/PS4 games. With all due respect to Nintendo’s First Party, Pokemon Sword & Shield and Animal Crossing just play like their 3DS counterparts at a higher resolution, rather than home console adaptations.

Mario Kart and Smash are very similar to their Wii U variants. Breath of the Wild also runs on Wii U.

I’m really struggling to progress on Pokemon Sword. Played it for 3 hours the other day and it’s just basically the GB/GBA games, in 3D, played at a cripplingly slow pace, with writing that reads like it’s aimed at young children.

I think the cat is out of the bag now so they’ll never go back to home console and handheld. What I’d really want moving forward is a home console that matches the Series S specs for the same £249 price point. Keep a separate handheld only console, and take Pokemon back to 2D/Sprite based but use the extra horsepower to make it look absolutely stunning.

I agree with OP, the output isn’t what I was expecting. The 3DS seemed to have games pumped out on to it.
 
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mcz117chief

mcz117chief

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Well it is my most played gaming console now by quite a huge margin:

These are my average times which means that some months I might spend more time on one console while spending zero on the other

Xbox One = an hour or so per month
Cellphone = an hour per week
PS4 = 1-3 hours per week
Switch = 10+ hours per week

Buy good games and you will play them, stuff like Fire Emblem Three Houses and Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate will keep you busy for years.
 
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Clarissa

Clarissa

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Because my friend says that Nintendo takes their time to release polished and complete games that are fun and timeless and you can play them forever unlike Sony who releases games that are rushed and have no replay value.
 
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Bodomism

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This happened
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MagnesG

MagnesG

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I think it got bigger around x1.5 per usual, that 0.5x less is due to the transition to HD game developments which means longer time to produce compared to 3DS for example.
 
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GamesAreFun

GamesAreFun

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Endless Fluff said:
Nintendo publishes 12-20 games each year ever since the Switch launched. How many more do you want/need?
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Nintendo publishes a lot of games, but a significant number of games in your list are ports/remakes.

I'd like to see Nintendo have some of their developers solely focus on smaller, eShop titles with more creative freedom. AAA games understandably take a long time to make.
 
SuperGooey

SuperGooey

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I owned a Wii U, so Switch's lineup of AAA titles (at least the ones I am personally interested in) are mostly just ports that I already owned on Wii U: BotW, Smash, Mario Kart, Bayonetta 2, DKC: Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3 and a few others.

After 3DS and Wii U were quickly abandoned by Nintendo, I was expecting a lot of big Switch, exclusive titles that would carry the weight for both systems. I know a lot of people may disagree, but as someone who has been burned by Nintendo a lot over the last couple generations, I'm still not seeing much incentive to buy a Switch. It seems like Switch is carrying only for the console pillar, not both the console and handheld pillar that was promised. Maybe I'll change my tune if BotW 2 or Metroid Prime 2 are ever released. Ironically, I might have been more inclined to buy a Switch if it carried over the Virtual Console games of Wii and Wii U, but it seems to have scrapped that for a crappy subscription service that only lets you rent games.

To clarify, I don't mean to shit on Switch. It's a solid console, and I totally understand how someone who skipped out on the Wii U would be really excited for Switch, but that just isn't me. Though, I am willing to admit that I'm likely overlooking a lot of titles.
 
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NeilH1982

NeilH1982

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Honestly, I'm longing back to 3DS games. A lot of the switch games aren't really meant for pick-up and play which you'd expect from a portable. So far I've been quite dissapointed with the Switch output. There were a few bangers (Luigi's Mansion 3 was one of the best games Nintendo put out last decade) but for the most part the upgrade has been dissapointing
 
DunDunDunpachi

DunDunDunpachi

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Companies like Nippon Ichi and CAPCOM are only now showing up in force (Disgaea 6, MH Rise). ATLUS has yet to arrive. I think the system will hit its DS stride in years 4-5. HD towns are hard.
 
REDRZA MWS

REDRZA MWS

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Hitchyhero said:
I remember when then switch was announced Nintendo and people were claiming that because Ninty will be focused on one console rather than two.... The amount of games released on the platform will be much higher.

What happened with this claim? Whilst I have loved smash bros, zelda and Splatoon I would still argue that Nintendo arnt publishing game after game after game. I recall the DS/Wii era being busier in terms of game output. Not sure what the 3ds/WiiU era was like but I'm pretty sure the 3ds was busy during its midlife.

My switch hasn't been used since pokemon sword (a game I didn't enjoy at all) and I don't see me playingy switch hardly at all this year.
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You actually fell for that? Lmao..... nah. Nintendo gonna Nintendo. I fucked them right off since the Wii. Literally a re wrapped GameCube but with forced motion controls. I knew the golden age of Nintendo was over. They make it clear, ancient outdated hardware with a gimmick, and their games take forever.
 
Porcile

Porcile

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The games they made in the first two years of the system's life still sell as well new releases and are sustaining the system as it is. They probably slowed down development to focus on quality instead of quantity. If the Switch was tanking they would probably be churning out a lot of cheaper more rushed games like they were in the Wii U days.
 
Herr Edgy

Herr Edgy

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REDRZA MWS said:
You actually fell for that? Lmao..... nah. Nintendo gonna Nintendo. I fucked them right off since the Wii. Literally a re wrapped GameCube but with forced motion controls. I knew the golden age of Nintendo was over. They make it clear, ancient outdated hardware with a gimmick, and their games take forever.
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Wii still had a lot of great innovative titles, with or without motion controls.
Games wise Wii was still fine, but you did notice the focus starting to shift. Wii U was when shit hit the fan. Never recovered since then.
 
BreathOfTheWife

BreathOfTheWife

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NeilH1982 said:
That's an awesome list that consist of games that were also available on Wii-U. Take out the up ports and whats left? A pokemon game and a slightly improved version of Animal Crossing
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By using your own logic, every video game series continuation is basically slightly improved version of the last game. It's time for you to admit that Nintendo Switch library is really diverse and strong.
 
KingT731

KingT731

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DunDunDunpachi said:
Companies like Nippon Ichi and CAPCOM are only now showing up in force (Disgaea 6, MH Rise). ATLUS has yet to arrive. I think the system will hit its DS stride in years 4-5. HD towns are hard.
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NIS has been on the switch(D5 Complete was a launch title). They ported almost all of the Disgaea series to the Switch as well as a bunch of their smaller games. D6 is an odd case because it's on the PS4/Switch in Japan but only only announced on the Switch outside of Japan.
 
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll

I Love Rock 'n' Roll

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That's one of the reason i don't care about Switch. Having a WiiU and 3DS and a SFC and GBP and a GBA is more than enough to provide me some great Nintendo sensations.
 
DunDunDunpachi

DunDunDunpachi

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KingT731 said:
NIS has been on the switch. They ported almost all of the Disgaea series to the Switch as well as a bunch of their smaller games. D6 is an odd case because it's on the PS4/Switch in Japan but only only announced on the Switch outside of Japan.
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But isn't D6 the first major new game they released for the Switch? Their SW ports are great for what it's worth.
 
Kataploom

Kataploom

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It's not that Nintendo didn't fullfill their statement, it's mostly that lots of things they produce don't appeal to us, like Labo or Ring Fit Adventure (well, this one I'm very interested in) and those games seem to carry some important development resources
 
KingT731

KingT731

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DunDunDunpachi said:
But isn't D6 the first major new game they released for the Switch? Their SW ports are great for what it's worth.
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For the scale that NIS works at? Probably so considering Disgaea is their "major" game and the last one came out nearly 6 years ago. But they have had pretty much all their new games on the Switch day 1 since it released (not counting the Falcom games NISA publish in the west)
 
DunDunDunpachi

DunDunDunpachi

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KingT731 said:
For the scale that NIS works at? Probably so considering Disgaea is their "major" game and the last one came out nearly 6 years ago. But they have had pretty much all their new games on the Switch day 1 since it released (not counting the Falcom games NISA publish in the west)
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Good point, they have been busy bees bringing over the Falcom games.
 
-Arcadia-

-Arcadia-

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It met reality.

It is much, much easier to make games on 3DS than Switch. Likewise, as Nintendo has settled into HD development, they’ve only pursued more and more ambitious designs (Odyssey vs. 3D World is an extreme, but good example).

All of this bites into that proposed gain.

That gain still exists, as Switch is prolific, varied, and active where other Nintendo consoles and handhelds had droughts much worse than some remember.

It’s good to think about it the opposite way as well. If Nintendo still has patches where not a ton is out, what would it have been like trying to support a PS4+ console, and an Xbox 360 level handheld at the same time? Imagine if Animal Crossing and Paper Mario weren’t for the console, last year, for example.
 
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REDRZA MWS

REDRZA MWS

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Herr Edgy said:
Wii still had a lot of great innovative titles, with or without motion controls.
Games wise Wii was still fine, but you did notice the focus starting to shift. Wii U was when shit hit the fan. Never recovered since then.
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To each their own. Like i said, forced motion controls without any way to play traditionally was plain stupid. It sold as much as it did because it became a fad, Xbox that the system or games were great. Also, it really was the GameCube re wrapped. For me, that’s when I knew Nintendo went astray from traditional gamers.
 
Amory

Amory

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At least it's got a ton of indie and 3rd party support

more and more I realize I don't enjoy most Nintendo first party games anymore. it's a combination of me getting older, and Nintendo changing their design philosophy over time. i find most of their games very tedious now
 
Captain Toad

Captain Toad

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Mister Wolf said:
I'm pretty sure Nintendo releases more first party games every year than its peers.
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Yeah, probably. But, their peers aren't almost solely reliant on first-party games to keep a steady stream of games coming.

As long as Nintendo is "playing their own game" with last-gen (or two) old hardware with creative, modern twists, they'll be required to fill out most of their own library.

That's not an easy task, but that's the strategy they've opted for. And they should be judged accordingly. Consumers of all three consoles don't really care how many first-party games they can play, they care about how many total games they want to play.
 
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AJUMP23

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I think the Switch has had a great lineup and a great console. One thing that has come with the switches sales is it has become an Indie darling. Lots of independent games to go along with the first party. Hades be a new one of note. I do think there are some development delays for first party during 2021 with Nintendo taking COVID seriously.
 
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