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[GymWolf]

the denial is gonna be sweet.

 

[mansoor1980]

No

just a guess that i have

 

[Aguero9320]

ES6 and starfield might be timed exclusives

They might. They absolutely won’t, but keep that dream alive!

 

[Banjo64]

So games in development will ship on ps5. If those games get patched or dlc is made available 18 months down the line, ps5 owners will get that too.

After that they'll be told to fuck off and buy an xbox.

No. Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo are coming to PS5. FO76 and TeS online will still be supported on PS5.

Everything else, from Starfield to TeS 6, a lot of gaffers are going to need to buy green, or play on their 4090GTX super duper rocket PCs.

 

[Orta]

“games under contract” is different to games in development. If a game has no contract to it then it will go exclusive

Sorry, wrong wording from me.

Oopsie.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

In the long run it’s gonna be a pretty significant power play by MS.

Does Starfield still falls under the multi-platform umbrella? Future TES and Fallout seem likely Xbox exclusives, no?

 

[Concern]

So Zenimax is officially "garbage anyway". Really didn't expect this to be addressed any time soon. Glad I was wrong.

 

[mejin]

Everything will be exclusive with the exception...

"that exist on other platforms, and we're going to go support those games on the platforms they're on"
"And even in the future, there might be things that have either contractual things or legacy on different platforms that we'll go do."

that's all people were asking. Thanks, Phil.

 

[Gatox]

just a guess that i have

Guess again...

 

[Stuart360]

ES6 and starfield might be timed exclusives

Dude let it go, its embarrassing.

 

[Methos#1975]

In the long run it’s gonna be a pretty significant power play by MS.

Does Starfield still falls under the multi-platform umbrella? Future TES and Fallout seem likely Xbox exclusives, no?

I think Starfield is going to be the 1st exclusive we see out of this deal, Sony tried buying a timed exclusive window on it and it is probably one of the main motivators for MS snapping them up

 

[mansoor1980]

Guess again...

guess what again? i got a PC and am waiting for the summer announcements by bethesda , hopefully starfield clips etc

 

[Mmnow]

If there is a game franchise with legacy - we will continue to support it on other platforms

I've been thinking of this, and outside re-releases and MMOs I don't know what he's talking about.

The legacy of Bethesda games on PlayStation is not good. Doom is not a franchise that people identify with PlayStation or Nintendo.

I guess, randomly, a Doom 64 remake could make it to Switch. But beyond that I have no idea.

 

[Ogbert]

Jesus Lord in heaven.

I say this as someone with a PS5. Bethesda AAA will not be appearing on PS. Not happening. Nada. Existing contractual arrangements means stuff like Deathloop.

If you want to play Fallout/ES etc, you’ll need a PC or Xbox.

 

[ElCasual]

My bet?
Bethesda games will be in Nintendo but no in Playstation.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

Exclusive IP on the future:
The Edler Scrolls
Doom
Starfield
Fallout
Wolfenstein
Prey
Dishonored
The Evil Within
Rage

People can downplay it but these are significant exclusives.

 

[Red-Town]

As expected. My PC and PS5 will get to see a lot of game time the coming years then

 

[HellforLeather]

Personally I am only going to miss Doom but there are definitely some heavy hitters in there. Fallout and Elder Scrolls now being exclusive is pretty big. There are some less impressive and straight up stinkers in there too:

Dishonored - are they even going to make another one? I thought it didnt perform well?

Wolfenstein - judging by the last two installments they clearly have no idea what to do with this IP anymore.

Rage - these games have just been straight up garbage.

 

[Chessmate]

But do we actually know that there isn't a contract somewhere that was agreed that Starfield or Elder Scrolls 6 will come to PS5? I can understand that unannounced games will be exclusive but how do we know that announced games didn't have something agreed to already that they'll be multiplat.

Yes, the heavy hitters like Starfield, TES6 and Doom Next may very well be contractually bound to PS5. Which would explain why MS only paid 7 dollars to acquire Zenimax.

 

[Mercenary09]

Don’t do it to yourself

I have a Series X and Game Pass so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm just throwing that out there as it is a possibility with them mentioning that they fulfill contracts.

 

[chinoXL]

guess it justifies their big check purchase but to only sell on xbox and pc doesn't make a lot of sense to me sales wise....the way playstation and nintendo sell compared to Xbox, seems stupid to cut those markets out..regardless, i have a gaming rig to play Doom, none of their other games are in my rotation

 

[cireza]

What a surprise.

 

[Elog]

I've been thinking of this, and outside re-releases and MMOs I don't know what he's talking about.

The legacy of Bethesda games on PlayStation is not good. Doom is not a franchise that people identify with PlayStation or Nintendo.

I guess, randomly, a Doom 64 remake could make it to Switch. But beyond that I have no idea.

The way I read it is game franchises with already strong multi-platform communities e.g. ES and Doom. Starfield is obviously a new IP and should be exclusive with this definition.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

.

 

[kraspkibble]

Good. Playstation doesn’t deserve those games. MS paid so they can do what the hell they like with their own games. Maybe Sony should think about spending some money….

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

But do we actually know that there isn't a contract somewhere that was agreed that Starfield or Elder Scrolls 6 will come to PS5? I can understand that unannounced games will be exclusive but how do we know that announced games didn't have something agreed to already that they'll be multiplat.

It is possible, albeit highly unlikely, that Starfield, ES6, FO5, Indiana Jones, etc has a contract in place that MS can't get out of and has to honor.

I don't think that's the case and you should move to the acceptance stage. Just an anecdotal example Xbox, Spencer, Greenberg, etc all tweeted and mentioned on their social media accounts when Indy was announced as coming from Bethesda and Todd Howard. PS and their representatives did not mention it even once.

Also remember just because a contract is in place does not mean they can't get out of it. To use an extreme example the legal language of a contract might say something like "if Zenimax acquires, is acquired, and/or merges with another company the terms of this contract are null and void".

You are setting yourself up for disappointment IMO. Just save up and buy an XBox or get Gamepass on PC or (soon) smart TVs.

 

[Cravis]

This Bethesda deal is about exclusive content for Xbox

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Interfectum]

ES6 and starfield might be timed exclusives

Going by what... the man himself just clarified the position. If you want Bethesda content, get a Game Pass device.

 

[Based Department]

Now, if playstation allows gamepass on their platform the console war will be over and MS will win

 

[Mmnow]

The way I read it is game franchises with already strong multi-platform communities e.g. ES and Doom. Starfield is obviously a new IP and should be exclusive with this definition.

That's a very generous reading of what was said. 'Multiplatform' doesn't have a legacy.

 

[HoofHearted]

Edit:

Spencer quote from the round table:
"If you're an XBox customer, the thing I want you to know is this is about delivering great exclusive games for you that ship on platforms where Game Pass exists - and that's our goal."

 

[Interfectum]

My bet?
Bethesda games will be in Nintendo but no in Playstation.

Does Switch have Game Pass? If not, no.

 

[kraspkibble]

“Elder Scrolls sucks anyway….” Sony boys prob

 

[Mercenary09]

It is possible, albeit highly unlikely, that Starfield, ES6, FO5, Indiana Jones, etc has a contract in place that MS can't get out of and has to honor.

I don't think that's the case and you should move to the acceptance stage. Just an anecdotal example Xbox, Spencer, Greenberg, etc all tweeted and mentioned on their social media accounts when Indy was announced as coming from Bethesda and Todd Howard. PS and their representatives did not mention it even once.

Also remember just because a contract is in place does not mean they can't get out of it. To use an extreme example the legal language of a contract might say something like "if Zenimax acquires, is acquired, and/or merges with another company the terms of this contract are null and void".

You are setting yourself up for disappointment IMO. Just save up and buy an XBox or get Gamepass on PC or (soon) smart TVs.

It's funny that people like you think that just because someone throws something out there means that they are in denial. As I said I have a Series X and have had Game Pass since day 1. Mine doesn't end until sometime in 2023. I'm good either way but it's worth mentioning.

 

[phil_t98]

Looks like there will be a few more Xbox’s sold this gen

 

[HTK]

I've already been on the PC/PS5 route because it didn't make sense to get an Xbox console if you have a PC.

So Sony might still see those games if they allow "GamePass" on the PlayStation consoles.

 

[MightySquirrel]

 

[Old_and_Slow]

Yep. Bethesda and PlayStation no longer go together. While anything can happen and things change, this statement is pretty clear. Glad MS is giving legacy support. Didn't have to but it's a nice gesture and supports those consumers.

 

[ManaByte]

So Sony might still see those games if they allow "GamePass" on the PlayStation consoles.

I thought Xbox has no games. Why do people suddenly want them on PlayStation?

 

[Interfectum]

The way I read it is game franchises with already strong multi-platform communities e.g. ES and Doom. Starfield is obviously a new IP and should be exclusive with this definition.

you can read it however you want... maybe English isn't your first language?

Here:

 

[Gediminas]

still, i am pretty sure all of those game, or majority of those game will come to PS4/PS5. you are not gonna just alienate more than 50-60% of those games buyers(real buyers) and leave those money on the table, you have to be pretty retarded to do that.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Eat up Sonygaf

 

[Aguero9320]

I have a Series X and Game Pass so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm just throwing that out there as it is a possibility with them mentioning that they fulfill contracts.

We know Sony were trying to get timed exclusivity for Starfield when Microsoft bought Zenimax - I don’t think it’s any kind of general practise to sign a contract to say a game will just come out on a platform at the same time, just exclusivity contracts. So there is a slim chance, I suppose, that Sony signed timed exclusivity but haven’t mentioned it. Like there’s a chance the moon is made of cheese.

 

[Interfectum]

still, i am pretty sure all of those game, or majority of those game will come to PS4/PS5. you are not gonna just alienate more than 50-60% of those games buyers(real buyers) and leave those money on the table, you have to be pretty retarded to do that.

 

[kraspkibble]

Yup gonna need to buy that Xbox or build a PC now…

 

[M1chl]

This is probably best thing coming from the acquisition, ID Tech 7 is probably best Engine know to mankind currently.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

It's funny that people like you think that just because someone throws something out there means that they are in denial.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then it is a duck.

 

[Hugare]

I'll miss some games, but competition is always good.

And MS really needed to step up their game

Hopefuly they will put out some great games