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[SCB3]

I have half of CoD BO installed and jesus does this game take up the space on my Digital console, is there going to be a SSD availible at any point soon to upgrade to?


I suppose my options could be to install any PS4 games on an external drive, but that defeats the purpose of using the updated versions of these games at times

 

[Damigos]

Not yet

 

[Topher]

I have half of CoD BO installed and jesus does this game take up the space on my Digital console, is there going to be a SSD availible at any point soon to upgrade to?


I suppose my options could be to install any PS4 games on an external drive, but that defeats the purpose of using the updated versions of these games at times

Nothing announced yet on PS5 expansion. For PS4 games, I don't think there is any reason not to store than on external drives other than some slightly longer load times.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I thought they said it would happen this summer? Could be wrong.

I want to find a good deal on an external ssd for PS4 games.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

When is the ps5 summer fan speed up update dropping? I'm sure there will be an announcement then.

 

[01011001]

literally no options for actual PS5 games. for PS4 you can use external drives.

 

[captainraincoat]

Soony

 

[Jaysen]

As others said, none unfortunately. I'll be first in line when they do become available though.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

I suppose my options could be to install any PS4 games on an external drive, but that defeats the purpose of using the updated versions of these games at times

Running PS4 games off an external SSD (on a PS5) is still a solid upgrade over base PS4.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Its a insult the size of any of COD game and more when ps5 dont have a better storage.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Someone tweet Mark Cerny for an answer.

A year ago during the reveal he was big on PC SSDs "this fall" being fast enough to hook up to a PS5.

It's now March. So where are they?

 

[TwiztidElf]

I bit the bullet and now use an external for PS4. It was very liberating. I now have 50+ PS4 games available to play on my PS5.
And most of the internal SSD is free for when some PS5 games do arrive.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Nothing until Sony release an update to use the extension bay. My Western Digital SN 850 1TB is ready.

 

[eastcoastkody]

i gotta do something. im sick of deleting things already

 

[SkylineRKR]

Nothing announced yet on PS5 expansion. For PS4 games, I don't think there is any reason not to store than on external drives other than some slightly longer load times.

For PS4 I Recommend a cheap T7. I have 1tb hooked up to it and PS4 games default to it. Same speed as internal so far I compared.

 

[01011001]

Nothing until Sony release an update to use the extension bay. My Western Digital SN 850 1TB is ready.

inb4 that specific SSD will not be one of the supported drives (guys, don't buy any SSD expecting it to work with the PS5 before Sony releases their official support list)

 

[Calverz]

Nothing because apparently microsoft made the mistake of going proprietory and sony made the best move by allowing 3rd parties to make extra storage options....and we are still waiting on sony to unlock the feature via firmware.

 

[GHG]

Nothing because apparently microsoft made the mistake of going proprietory and sony made the best move by allowing 3rd parties to make extra storage options....and we are still waiting on sony to unlock the feature via firmware.

Having no option but to pay premium prices for the duration of a generation just so that you can have 6-9 months of feature "bragging rights" over the competition.

Seems like a reasonable trade off to me. We shall remember this period fondly.

 

[01011001]

Having no option but to pay premium prices for the duration of a generation just so that you can have 6-9 months of feature "bragging rights" over the competition.

Seems like a reasonable trade off to me. We shall remember this period fondly.

let's see and wait in what price range the SSDs will be that will be supported on PS5

 

[GHG]

let's see and wait in what price range the SSDs will be that will be supported on PS5

Yes.

And what will be even more interesting is doing a price comparison in 2-3 years. That's when the real benefits of non proprietary solutions start to kick in, as the technology matures, wider demand increases and economies of scale starts kicking in.

 

[01011001]

Yes.

And what will be even more interesting is doing a price comparison in 2-3 years. That's when the real benefits of non proprietary solutions start to kick in, as the technology matures, wider demand increases and economies of scale starts kicking in.

the way Microsoft worded it they might open up the production of their expansion cards to more manufacturers down the line. so if that happens these prices will go down as well. and maybe we will even see some pushing for higher speeds. All they have to do is release a minimum spec that manufacturerers need to meat and then let them do what they want with it.

also storage will get cheaper on both. back on the 360 it started with a 100€ 20GB HDD and ended with 500GB for 100€. so 25x the storage space for the same price over the lifespan of the system. and the prices for the 500GB fell soon after

 

[EverydayBeast]

You want more gigs connect external hard drive

 

[Aguero9320]

Someone tweet Mark Cerny for an answer.

A year ago during the reveal he was big on PC SSDs "this fall" being fast enough to hook up to a PS5.

It's now March. So where are they?

I don’t think it’s that the drives available aren’t fast enough tbh... More that the ‘suffocating coffin’ design is a fire hazard

They have to figure that out before they can turn this on.

 

[RPS37]

I feel like there was some guy banging a drum that these consoles weren’t shipping with enough space for a while...

 

[Arkam]

As long as the the officially supported drives come this year I will be happy (enough). Space is definitely tight... but not a major issue for me yet.

Hopefully they are over 1TB so we can buy once and cry once (over cost).

 

[DaGwaphics]

Having no option but to pay premium prices for the duration of a generation just so that you can have 6-9 months of feature "bragging rights" over the competition.

Seems like a reasonable trade off to me. We shall remember this period fondly.

Knowing that your expansion drive is indistinguishable from the internal drive and won't perform erratically ... priceless.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

There is no reason to keep PS4 games on internal storage, even if they are updated. The PS5 is smart enough to store native PS5 games internally and put the rest on an external.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don’t think it’s that the drives available aren’t fast enough tbh... More that the ‘suffocating coffin’ design is a fire hazard

They have to figure that out before they can turn this on.

There’s no issues in even more cramped airflow less gaming laptops as thin as iMacs now. Just bought one a little over a month ago. It’s literally a sandwich.

Fuddy, that.

 

[01011001]

There’s no issues in even more cramped airflow less gaming laptops as thin as iMacs now. Just bought one a little over a month ago. It’s literally a sandwich.

Fuddy, that.

the issue is that the SSD has to run at certain speeds, and if it gets hot it will throttle.

 

[DeepEnigma]

the issue is that the SSD has to run at certain speeds, and if it gets hot it will throttle.

You and Xbox Twitter are geniuses. Send Sony the 411 and resume, I’m sure they’ll take you on and that just slipped through their R&D cabesos.

 

[Silent Viper]

Nothing because apparently microsoft made the mistake of going proprietory and sony made the best move by allowing 3rd parties to make extra storage options....and we are still waiting on sony to unlock the feature via firmware.

Prices of Seagate SSDs will come down and there is nothing stopping MS from adding support for third party NVMe SSDs in future

 

[Redefine07]

External SSD for PS4 games atm.

 

[THE DUCK]

If this were ms, this thread would be 50 pages long burning ms at the stake for not delivering. It's sony so it's OK there is still zero options and very little complaint.

 

[Fredrik]

If this were ms, this thread would be 50 pages long burning ms at the stake for not delivering. It's sony so it's OK there is still zero options and very little complaint.

What is there to say? Those who care a lot about this are still sitting on the fence. Like me. I already have my internal 1TB and 1TB expansion card mostly filled up on Series X. Won’t buy a PS5 until they’ve upgraded the SSD or have a functional solution for external storage.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

No news till they figure out cooling solution for external ssd when attached to PS5

You mean INternal nvme fan firmware update?

 

[SCB3]

If this were ms, this thread would be 50 pages long burning ms at the stake for not delivering. It's sony so it's OK there is still zero options and very little complaint.

I mean Xbox Solution is annoying, but at least they provide an option

 

[Murdoch]

At least Sony aren't nickel and diming their customers forcing them to buy expensive storage options and Dolby Atmos. They saved my marriage.

 

[Elias]

Having no option but to pay premium prices for the duration of a generation just so that you can have 6-9 months of feature "bragging rights" over the competition.

Seems like a reasonable trade off to me. We shall remember this period fondly.

And then you woke up and realized that there will be multiple options terms of ssd support for the Series consoles coming soon.

 

[Three]

And then you woke up and realized that there will be multiple options terms of ssd support for the Series consoles coming soon.

What options, you mean for the manufacturer? What option do you have other than an xbox SSD?

On topic it's ridiculous that we have no SSD options but if they are going to use SSDs as some kind of ram pak from the N64 era I understand if they need to be certified. Sony botched it for release big time and they may even get greedy and release Sony only SSDs. Oh well don't want to buy an expensive SSD in this shortage anyway. I'll wait until the market stabilises and prices come down. Mostly have PS4 games for now anyway.

 

[bender]

They need an archiving solution for PS5 games to external storage. I understand we wouldn't be able to play those games until migrated back to internal storage but data caps exist and deleting/re-downloading is a terrible strategy.

 

[Elias]

What options, you mean for the manufacturer? What option do you have other than an xbox SSD?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Running PS4 games off an external SSD (on a PS5) is still a solid upgrade over base PS4.

 

[phil_t98]

It’s a bit of a shit show that this isn’t available yet, delete it games and having to redo load them can be a pain in the ass. Hopefully this will be sorted by the time i got my ps5 in a month or 2

 

[reksveks]

Sony botched it for release big time and they may even get greedy and release Sony only SSDs.

Don't count out SSD manufacturers doing it to increase margins

 

[Three]

It's ridiculous that we

So you are telling me there will be different form factors for the proprietary slot?
That wording does not reassure me of anything. To me it seems like he only said this vague statement to Major Nelson when there was talk about their proprietary slots. Seems like he is saying there are different options, form factors and sizes and they went with what they have. There are options in terms of external drives, different sizes but how exactly are they going to change the proprietary port? How will a standard nvme stick out of the console. And why the proprietary slot then? Seems like the usual future faking to me. There will be options, different sizes maybe even different manufacturers but it will still be an xbox drive licenced and sold by MS for their proprietary slot.

 

[GHG]

the way Microsoft worded it they might open up the production of their expansion cards to more manufacturers down the line. so if that happens these prices will go down as well. and maybe we will even see some pushing for higher speeds.

also storage will get cheaper on both. back on the 360 it started with a 100€ 20GB HDD and ended with 500GB for 100€

The price will fall or you will get more storage for the same price but the reality is that it still won't be competitive with the standard drives on the market. The Xbox 360 drives you referenced were still expensive for the amount of capacity (500gb) and speed of drive (5400rpm) on offer.

Just to give you some examples:

https://camelcamelcamel.com/Xbox-360-500GB-Media-Hard-Drive/product/B00MAPYKPO

Hitachi 500Gb Hts545050A7E380 2.5 inch Sata 3.0Gb/S 5400Rpm 8Mb Hard Drive, Model 0J11285 Bulk -by-Hitachi (B009QOENTU)

Amazon price tracking & price history for Hitachi 500Gb Hts545050A7E380 2.5 inch Sata 3.0Gb/S 5400Rpm 8Mb Hard Drive, Model 0J11285 Bulk -by-Hitachi (B009QOENTU)

camelcamelcamel.com

Western Digital 500GB 2.5" Playstation 3/Playstation 4 Hard Drive (PS3 Fat, PS3 Slim, PS3 Super Slim, PS4) (B00TIY4IHK)

Amazon price tracking & price history for Western Digital 500GB 2.5" Playstation 3/Playstation 4 Hard Drive (PS3 Fat, PS3 Slim, PS3 Super Slim, PS4) (B00TIY4IHK)

camelcamelcamel.com

And then you woke up and realized that there will be multiple options terms of ssd support for the Series consoles coming soon.

Yeh I'll believe it when I see it. Delusions that proprietary doesn't mean proprietary are cute.

Knowing that your expansion drive is indistinguishable from the internal drive and won't perform erratically ... priceless.

They should have charged you more then in that case. If I'm Microsoft reading this thread I'm thinking I've missed an opportunity.

 

[turtlepowa]

The Xbox 360 drives you referenced were still expensive for the amount of capacity (500gb) and speed of drive (5400rpm) on offer.

Yeah, but it was very easy to make it yourself with the 360 firmware. That was well known. Maybe it will be possible again, maybe 3rd parties are coming. We will see.

 

[GHG]

Yeah, but it was very easy to make it yourself with the 360 firmware. That was well known. Maybe it will be possible again, maybe 3rd parties are coming. We will see.

I'm talking about the proprietary external add-on drive. This one:

And then later in the generation these:

If you are happy to tear down the proprietary enclosures and replace the drive with your own (that you've had to install firmware on, so requires a computer along with some know-how) then you're making a mockery of the "convenience" factor that these proprietary drives are supposed to offer.

Sounds like a lot more work to me than just simply buying an off the shelf drive that is the correct speed and size and then installing it.

A quick Google search throws up this:

Hack a 250gb, 320gb or 500gb Sata harddrive to work in the Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Slim

This tutorial will teach you how to hack a standard Western Digital 2.5" Sata hard drive so it can be used by the Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Slim. Normally...

digiex.net

"Easy" you say?

 

[turtlepowa]

I'm talking about the proprietary external add-on drive. This one:

And then later in the generation these:

If you are happy to tear down the proprietary enclosures and replace the drive with your own (that you've had to install firmware on, so requires a computer along with some know-how) then you're making a mockery of the "convenience" factor that these proprietary drives are supposed to offer.

Sounds like a lot more work to me than just simply buying an off the shelf drive that is the correct speed and size and then installing it.

A quick Google search throws up this:

Hack a 250gb, 320gb or 500gb Sata harddrive to work in the Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Slim

This tutorial will teach you how to hack a standard Western Digital 2.5" Sata hard drive so it can be used by the Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Slim. Normally...

digiex.net

"Easy" you say?

I'm the average Joe and it was super easy. Also there were stores that could make this for you, i think it was like 10 bucks.

 

[ZywyPL]

TBH so far the compression seems to be working exactly as intended, more and more newer games are seeing a noticeable size decrease compared to PS4/XB/PC versions, meaning those 800GB will be able to store the same amount of games as XSX 1TB, if not even more, and I think it's safe to say the trend will only improve. Granted, older titles like the mentioned CoD will most likely never receive an update to take advantage of the said compression, but the FW update unlocking the expandable SSD slot is reportedly arriving quite soon.