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[VG Tech] Outriders PS5 and Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test

jroc74

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na , stop with this shit everytime there's an clear advantage for the xbox version. and on top of this the game is 9.99 (gp) on xbox and 69,99 on ps5

you get also mbl21 per those 9.99 and then you have to add another 69.99 on ps5 yeah it work like this
lol, this is hilarious. Really. $69.99? MLB The Show? Wrong thread. But I've seen this alot lately. Going off topic to try to make some non existent point.

.....this game is ....$59.99...

Like someone mentioned, whatever this issus is with XSX in this game, some ppl might mistake it for resolution. Like its been mentioned its probably more noticeable than resolution.

There's no need to be upset.
 
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Schmick

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I don't think those screenshots reflect the game's texture difference. is it clearer that way?
Ahhh... so its what you 'think'... which to be frank, means fuck all in this case.

For you to be clear I need you take your own screenshots of the game with your own XSX and post them on here. Otherwise your posts mean nothing.
 

MonarchJT

Banned
Trolling?
It's not $69.99 and this thread isn't about MLB21.
Well you were making fun of the fact that you had to pay 9.99 a month and I replied that with that 9.99 the value return is exceptionally higher. Probably how much you would spend to buy the same games Of this month on Ps5 you would pay 1 full year of gamepass





but this thread is not the about it, let's go back to the texture streaming
 
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Methos#1975

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Look man. I think most people know that Gamepass is a service they pay for, just as Netflix, HBO Max, etc are. But just like with those services, many tend to colloquially label the media presented on them as free. I was excited to watch Godzilla Vs Kong last week on HBO Max, both myself and my wife refered to it as being free. My wife tells people we are binging Modern Family for free on the NBC services, I tell people I'm playing Outriders for free on Gamepass or FF3 free on Nintendo Online. Yes we know in the back of our heads we pay a small nominal fee for these services, that doesn't stop the perception of the value we get from them. I mean hundreds of games on a service I pay like $15 for, thousands of films I pay like 9.99 for. Mathematically they are close to free.
 

assurdum

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As you say: It's one picture, not the whole game. Digital Foundry will clear this up. Would be really surprised though if this lack of detail was a general issue, especially since nobody noted it so far (also not in the demo, as far as I remember).

Significantly higher resolution on XSX on the other hand (with equal performance) is a plain and simple fact. And Outriders is just one of many games recently with a higher res on XSX, so we definitely see a trend here.
There is definitely a trend. Everytime series X deliver higher res something else it's sacrificed, don't remind a single game with higher res on series X which show other benefits. But it's hilarious read about a victory for something you can't spot without pixels counts but a more visible downgrade in the texture quality is considered a "minor thing".
Keep Going Season 5 GIF
 
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assurdum

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Well you were making fun of the fact that you had to pay 9.99 a month and I replied that with that 9.99 the value return is exceptionally higher. Probably how much you would spend to buy the same games Of this month on Ps5 you would pay 1 full year of gamepass





but this thread is not the about it, let's go back to the texture streaming
Snl Wow GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
You saying it won’t get better than that? As I said there will be massive improvements as we move forward

No I'm just saying we have already seen developers use the PS5s I/O in the way that Cerny was talking about. Bluepoint were the first ones to mention it in an interview with Digital Foundry. I never said it can't get better just that some developers are already taking advantage of the systems I/O.

Don't blame me blame Bluepoint.

 

MonarchJT

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It runs best in your mind. Prefer shitty IQ just to have the higher pixels counts, it's ridiculous.
The non-acceptance that Xbox has an advantage makes these speeches highly ridiculous. Having tried the game I can say 100% that there is no Vaseline effect But I know you and I know how much what's happening lately hurts you. Everything will be fine don't worry.
 
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thelastword

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Can we agree that some of you xbox fans don't care about quality anymore, "as long as it's free"?
Yet, this is a comparison thread, which talks about the differences in quality in the rendering pipeline. People would rather talk about gamepass in it.....or the famous "why are you guys comparing this, just go play the games", but this is a comparison thread, why are you in it, if all you want to do is play? That's why there is an OT. These threads are only important and details should only be highlighted based on who is winning to some...
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MonarchJT

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No I'm just saying we have already seen developers use the PS5s I/O in the way that Cerny was talking about. Bluepoint were the first ones to mention it in an interview with Digital Foundry. I never said it can't get better just that some developers are already taking advantage of the systems I/O.

Don't blame me blame Bluepoint.


And what would this prove?? did you seen someone using sfs+mesh shader+vrs+directML? the generation has just begun
 

MonarchJT

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Yet, this is a comparison thread, which talks about the differences in quality in the rendering pipeline. People would rather talk about gamepass in it.....or the famous "why are you guys comparing this, just go play the games", but this is a comparison thread, why are you in it, if all you want to do is play? That's why there is an OT. These threads are only important and details should only be highlighted based on who is winning to some...
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The best thing as always is to wait for DF at least simply as a second opinion
 

assurdum

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The non-acceptance that Xbox has an advantage makes these speeches highly ridiculous. Having tried the game I can say 100% that there is no Vaseline effect But I know you and I know how much what's happening lately hurts you. Everything will be fine don't worry.
It seems hurt more to you admit there are more important things than just mathematical higher res because it's hilarious how much downplay the difference in texture. He accuse the other of nn acceptance
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MonarchJT

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It seems hurt more to you admit there are more important things than just mathematical higher res because it's hilarious how much downplay such differences. The nn acceptance he said. lol
What I am saying is that this difference in IQ exists and is only so prominent in the minds of those who do not accept the distinct advantage of the Xbox in this comparison.

I would add that the usual suspects call into question this difference lol and with thelastword here the defence force is complete
 
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assurdum

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What I am saying is that this difference in IQ exists and is only so prominent in the minds of those who do not accept the distinct advantage of the Xbox in this comparison.

I would add that the usual suspects call into question this difference lol and with thelastsword here the defence force is complete
Ok. Let's speak clearly. Can you show me a picture where Outriders appears significantly better on series X for that mathematical pixels advantage over the ps5. I don't ask that much. Just prove your point. What's the point to have higher res if you can't show it the benefits? That's what I'm saying. I never said the res is better on ps5.
 
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Methos#1975

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Here is what I don't understand, if the PS5 is visibly better, why are so many random play videos comparing both by average gamers saying it looks noticeable worse on PS5. While I know the guy is no genius, that Mr4kupscaler has a video comparing both side by side and he keeps saying the PS5 version looks trash compared to the Xbox version and that guy hates the Xbox.
 
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Stuart360

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Here is what I don't understand, if the PS5 is visibly better, why are so many random play videos comparing both by average gamers saying it looks noticeable worse on PS5. While I know the guy is no genius, that Mr4kupscaler has a video comparing both side by side and he keeps saying the PS5 version looks trash compared to the Xbox version and that guy hates the Xbox.
Yeah i watched a vid the other day, by someone comparing both versions next to each other (on actual hardware, not comparing videos), and he also said the Xbox version looked better. He even said he thought the textures looked better. He also admits to prefer Sony.
 

assurdum

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Here is what I don't understand, if the PS5 is visibly better, why are so many random play videos comparing both by average gamers saying it looks noticeable worse on PS5. While I know the guy is no genius, that Mr4kupscaler has a video comparing both side by side and he keeps saying the PS5 version looks trash compared to the Xbox version and that guy hates the Xbox.

Where is visible worse on ps5? And those guys always preferred the Xbox platform over the ps5, in the past.
 
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phil_t98

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No I'm just saying we have already seen developers use the PS5s I/O in the way that Cerny was talking about. Bluepoint were the first ones to mention it in an interview with Digital Foundry. I never said it can't get better just that some developers are already taking advantage of the systems I/O.

Don't blame me blame Bluepoint.



if you read what i said it will get better, stop defending all the time. Both consoles are not using their full power as of yet. As for Demon souls it looks decent but games will get better
 

Concern

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Here is what I don't understand, if the PS5 is visibly better, why are so many random play videos comparing both by average gamers saying it looks noticeable worse on PS5. While I know the guy is no genius, that Mr4kupscaler has a video comparing both side by side and he keeps saying the PS5 version looks trash compared to the Xbox version and that guy hates the Xbox.


There's fanboys on both ends. Like the fanboys who made the fake Hitman 3 faceoff claiming it had very bad framerate lol.

The demo had a split second longer loading in textures and clowns were parading like it affected anything. This is probably something similar or a bug.
 

Methos#1975

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Where is visible worse on ps5? And those guys always preferred the Xbox platform over the ps5, in the past.

That doesn't answer the question, which is why are so many normal gamers that are comparing both side by side saying the PS5 version looks crap. Why is that. Like in this video.

 

assurdum

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That doesn't answer the question, which is why are so many normal gamers that are comparing both side by side saying the PS5 version looks crap. Why is that. Like in this video.


Did you watched the video I posted at least? Really you find more reliable what saying casual users on the net?
 
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Stuart360

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That doesn't answer the question, which is why are so many normal gamers that are comparing both side by side saying the PS5 version looks crap. Why is that. Like in this video.


Oh wow, pretty sure thats the vid i atched the other day. This was before the comparisons had come out too so he wasnt influenced by them.
If yuo watch some of his other vids too, he admits to much prefering Sony over Xbox too.
 

assurdum

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Oh wow, pretty sure thats the vid i atched the other day. This was before the comparisons had come out too so he wasnt influenced by them.
If yuo watch some of his other vids too, he admits to much prefering Sony over Xbox too.
I don't understand how a notorious Sony fanboy can be considered reliable for such stuff and posting an offscreen video
 
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Stuart360

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I don't understand how a notorious Sony fanboy can be considered more reliable with an offscreen video
Well why would a Sony fanboy say the Xbox version is better if it wasnt?. Besides he just says he prefers Playstation over Xbox, he doesnt say he's a massive fanboy.
Just watch the vid if you havent. Its no 'proof' of anything, he's just giving his view. Plus he's not the only one who has said the same.
 

Bramble

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looking at the specs i don't see how texture steaming it won't be the same or better on the xsx, it's irritating how you have to take everything cerny says word for word and gloss over all the features cited by the xbox engineers. 560 gb/s bw and sfs that according to what the console engineers say will allow you to load 1/3 of the data that would usually be needed on 1 other gpu to load the same texture (because you have to load the entire MIP) they will be enough to do everything necessary and it will be seen during the gen

You don't see how 125% faster IO improves texture streaming and other stuff? You don't see how faster IO was the number 1 requested next gen upgrade by most developers? It's irritating you keep drooling over some on-paper specs that don't tell the full story. You're an ignorant if you imply that you can't see the PS5 being sharper.

i have the game and there's nothing blurry in it. like literally you can see every grain of sand in the ground. As far as I'm concerned it's a state a way of the outlet to archive some parity between platforms and leave everyone happy.

I didn't say it's blurry. The comparisons speaks for itself. SX lacks the detail that PS5 has.

well yeah wow is the right word the difference is embarrassing. especially when it runs best on Xbox

It literally doesn't run best on Xbox. The framerate is like 99.9% identical, but still 0.01% better on PS5 and the textures on PS5 are sharper. The only advantage is the DRS being a bit higher on Xbox, but how much is that worth if textures and IQ are worse? I'd personally take the better textures, IQ and framerate any day.

How about you just accept these machines are very much alike and both have there own specific set of qualities. Some are better on Xbox, some are better on PS5. Sooner you let go of the Dealer/Colt fanboy narrative about stuff being 40-50% better on Xbox, the easier this gen will be for you.
 

assurdum

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Well why would a Sony fanboy say the Xbox version is better if it wasnt?. Besides he just says he prefers Playstation over Xbox, he doesnt say he's a massive fanboy.
Just watch the vid if you havent. Its no 'proof' of anything, he's just giving his view. Plus he's not the only one who has said the same.
So because is a Sony fanboy is more reliable because speaks badly about a multiplat port? Really? As I said can someone provide a screen where the ps5 appears shitty compared the series X? I don't give any kinda of credit to the common sentiment because most of the times people who talks like this have no clue of what they are talking about
 
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Andodalf

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XSX having low AF is super weird. Technically the One X version in BC would be way better in that regard. Must be a bug.
 

Stuart360

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So because is a Sony fanboy is more reliable because speaks badly about a multiplat port? As I said can someone provide a screen where the ps5 appears shitty compared the series X? I don't give any kinda of credit to the common sentiment because most of the times people have no clue of what they are talking about
Well its simple fact that the closer you get to 4k on a 4k screen, the cleaner and sharper a game will look, i mean thats just the way it is.
its also something that doesnt always come through in compressed Youtube vids and screen grabs.
 

Methos#1975

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Did you watched the video I posted at least? Really you find more reliable what saying casual users on the net?
Honestly, yeah. I mean I'm a average gamer as well. If other average gamers with similar setups to mine are reporting that in their non bias eyes one version looks better than the other that really holds more weight for me than all these so called professionals. I'm not a big fan of his but his video is pretty transparent. He shows you exactly what he is seeing on his setup, he doesn't hide his settings, etc and he points out exactly what he is seeing which due to the transparency of his video you see as well. That to me is pretty trust worthy. He isn't hiding anything.

Personally I don't really give a damn. I like Outriders and all but I put it aside to play Monster Hunter Rise. I'm not a fan of either Sony or MS, I only own a Series X over the PS5 due to the shortage. If I could find a PS5, I would own one.
 
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This games multiplayer is a complete and utter fucking joke.
Not one time have I sat through a complete session.
- Server connection problems.
- Freezing in game menus while in a multiplayer session
- Being matched up with players with players way above my level.
Unable to skip long ass cutscenes.

Didnt pay $60 for this but I'd be pissed if I did.
 

assurdum

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Well its simple fact that the closer you get to 4k on a 4k screen, the cleaner and sharper a game will look, i mean thats just the way it is.
its also something that doesnt always come through in compressed Youtube vids and screen grabs.
Forgive me but the level of stupidity of this post is something else. Now you give me more credit to casual users in the net and you think YouTube doesn't show the true. YouTube worked perfectly until yesterday for IQ comparison but Outriders as a sort of special IQ it seems ruined by the compression.
 
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assurdum

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I don’t give that much of a shit to do so. There’s a nice video in the OP that explains it however.
Lol. It's a video about FPS counts. It doesn't explain anything. You haven't care to look the video and you just read the pixel counts, right? As expected.
Look at this and come back to say you notice more higher res.
 
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Stuart360

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Forgive me but the level of stupidity of this post is something else. Now you give me more credit to casual users in the net and you think YouTube doesn't show the true. My God
Of course Youtube compression is bad, everyone says it. And i'm not even argung for either side. I'm just saying that actually seeing a game natively in front of you, is better that seeing the same game on a Youtube vid.
There is nothing stupid about that. In fact it would be stupid if that WASNT the case.
 

MonarchJT

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Intrigued, I restarted the game and tried to find a single "washed out" texture. Here are some screenshots, obviously take compression into account ...but you can download the image to realize for yourself the nonsense of certain topics







Please stop with this washed-out texture nonsense created by some fanboy for obvious reasons
 
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