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[Yoboman]

The games not linear. The trailer most certainly was.

Yet you are in here talking about GTA like it doesn’t have linear as fuck mission design

 

[GHG]

Wasnt really impressive IMO.
Just looked like a bit better looking PS4 Pro game.
Gameplay looked janky aswell.

And yeah.. 30fps? I thought we are over that...

I know it's a cross-gen game but it would be better if it were a cross-platform game right?

 

[Dizzan]

Kinda upset that hair and other objects still clip through stuff on next gen

This is what I grew up playing as a kid. Be grateful

 

[Dick Jones]

Well of course it's not like they are giving you control over what Aloy does. That's why it's called a trailer.

Maybe he had the controller on and Aloy was unresponsive in the trailer?

 

[too much eslim]

Game looks awesome and as a cross gen game MS and 343 should be ashamed of themselves. This is how you do a gameplay debut. Show amazing graphics and good gameplay. Sony studios sure know how to wow the customer. Seems like the Coalition, Ninja Theory, and Rare knows how to wow people graphically.

 

[Dr Bass]

Fixed for context, since we still have to see what the wizards at Ninja Theory will bring with Hellblade 2. From the rest of other developers? I truly don't know.

They seem a bit behind. I mean they got around to showing time lapsed clouds, but does that really inspire confidence compared to what Guerrilla was showing here, or Insomniac with Ratchet? Seriously, releasing a "well, here our the clouds!" tweet doesn't seem that smart in retrospect.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Graphics look amazing, the gameplay seems good, nothing particularly exciting about it. I was hoping for a release date, even if they are in fact planning for it to be a 2022 game.

 

[Rheon]

Shit looked pretty insane. The gameplay looked almost CGI-like in parts.

Wasn't a huge fan of the first game but this one is already looking like more fun.

 

[VanEs]

This seems to look better than even the 4k stream. Is there post processing done here? That scene where she is above the water almost looks "real" like you're looking at something with a real physical presence. I didn't get that feeling from the stream, even though I thought it looked well done.

Nope. Just the grainy/noisy side effect of making a lossy animated gif to keep a 'reasonable size'.

 

[Tripolygon]

snip

They really took the criticism of the water in the first game personally. Lol

 

[DrAspirino]

when did Ninja Theory become graphical wizards?

When they released Hellblade on the Switch. To me that was a graphically impossible port, yet they made it happen.

 

[harmny]

The games not linear. The trailer most certainly was.

the open world it's going to probably suck just like the first one. dead world. braindead npcs. horrible side quests. bad story and dialogue. but it's fine that's not what people are looking for.

they like killing giant robots with bow and arrow and beautiful vistas and guerilla will deliver. everything else is just an extra.

 

[TonyK]

when did Ninja Theory become graphical wizards?

Exactly. I played all Ninja Theory games and no one is a graphic showcase, but now people are considering them like the Naughty Dog of Microsoft, and only because that fake prerendered video that I don't understand why, people assumed it was real time.

I want to play Hellblade 2, but this graphical pressure above their shoulders can only end in disappointment.

 

[Senua]

Looks really great, hope they release 60fps footage soon enough

 

[Dick Jones]

They seem a bit behind. I mean they got around to showing time lapsed clouds, but does that really inspire confidence compared to what Guerrilla was showing here, or Insomniac with Ratchet? Seriously, releasing a "well, here our the clouds!" tweet doesn't seem that smart in retrospect.

They should trademark "The Power of the Cloud" or was that taken?

 

[NeonGhost]

This is what I grew up playing as a kid. Be grateful

Yeah I grew up on the same and still can be disappointed

 

[MasterCornholio]

Maybe he had the controller on and Aloy was unresponsive in the trailer?

I guess he was just upset that he couldn't control her.



On a serious note after playing the first game you can approach a mission multiple ways. Sometimes it's more linear and other times it's more open. But without playing through the segment yourself you can't tell how open or linear it is.

 

[Great Hair]

Tonight at 2pm PT / 10pm PST / 11pm CET, Sony will release 14 minutes of gameplay from Horizon Forbidden West, captured on PlayStation 5. You can follow this presentation right here, thanks to the YouTube player. UPDATE: 6 sceenshots added and YouTub

Tonight at 2pm PT / 10pm PST / 11pm CET, Sony will release 14 minutes of gameplay from Horizon Forbidden West, captured on PlayStation 5. You can follow this presentation right here, thanks to the YouTube player. UPDATE: 6 sceenshots added and YouTube video in 4K

www.gamersyde.com

 

[Physiognomonics]

Didn't make me too interested in the story, but the gameplay, combat especially, looked quite good. I thought it flowed fairly well. Beautiful game.

Yes the combat gameplay was already the best thing in Horizon.

 

[GHG]

Looks amazing in my opinion, but I didn't like first one.

gimme Killzone pls : (

Hopefully now that Herman rules the roost he can persuade Jim to give him budget to increase the size of Guerrilla which would allow them to work on multiple projects concurrently.

 

[Unknown?]

Yet you are in here talking about GTA like it doesn’t have linear as fuck mission design

Lol that's what made GTA4 so terrible.

 

[Ezquimacore]

the same game but prettier

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Can't get over the fact this is a cross-gen game. This game has no businesses looking this good for a cross-gen title.

Dump the PS4. Give Guerilla the keys to the PS5 kingdom and I'll start slowly unzipping my pants.

 

[Dizzan]

Yeah I grew up on the same and still can be disappointed

Hard to please.

There are a few different ways to look at things in life. Your choice.

 

[lachesis]

I think it looks great. The first game looked incredible for PS4, so I think that's probably why I'm not too blown away though. Maybe it's that "diminishing return" thing or being too spoiled.

I really liked the hair in the water, kinda frizzling - but swimming / coming out felt like the hair's waterproof & pretty weightless considering it's all wet. But seeing all that detail, really impressive stuff.

 

[Tripolygon]

The games not linear. The trailer most certainly was.

Every trailer is linear, it is created to show off certain things and moments. Thats not an indictment on any game but the nature of a trailer.

 

[Lethal01]

we final fantasy now

Yeah, my first thought was that it looked like something straight out of an anime... WHICH IS GREAT

All these western games need atleast 60% more anime injected into them.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Man, after just seeing that in 4K, I can only imagine what Naughty Dog’s game or the next God of War is going to look like.

 

[kyussman]

Very nice!.......I honestly don't need this game to reinvent the wheel,the first game for a new IP did so many great things that some new machines and abilities are pretty much all I need.I loved the sandbox nature of the combat in the first one,it never got old to me....some new gadgets to use and some new machnes to use them on and I'm good to go!

 

[Javthusiast]

It shouldn't look that much worse on even a base ps4 to be honest, if you consider games like Last of Us Part 2, GoT and RDR2.

 

[FatKingBallman]

When they released Hellblade on the Switch. To me that was a graphically impossible port, yet they made it happen.

Yeah, but with severe cutbacks and game is very, very linear.

 

[Tripolygon]

Yes the combat gameplay was already the best thing in Horizon.

On top of that it looks like they improved the fucking human enemy gameplay.

 

[Moon Grape Donut]

Oh no no no Alloy narrating every single action she does reminds me of Days Gone.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Yet you are in here talking about GTA like it doesn’t have linear as fuck mission design

I'm not saying that at all.

These companies shine a spotlight on the aspects of their games they're proudest of. It's like a dating profile for games. "Look at my best attributes. We're not going to focus on anything that I'm not proud of."

As of right now, Guerilla Games decided to showcase the game using linear, scripted level and mission design. It was a very hand holdy debut in my opinion. They think showcasing Forbidden West that way will get fans most excited.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN that Forbidden Wests open world will be bad. It might be the greatest open world ever made. It might be fantastic. It's simply a red flag (for me) that they didn't show us anything in terms of open world design.

Maybe that open world trailer comes out in a few months. I'm merely noticing what Guerilla decided to highlight, and what they chose to ignore for their big marketing debut.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Biggest worry...

They decided to wow everyone with linear cramped level design. (This is the part where we want you to override this mount, so we'll place a mount right next to red grass and we'll have Aloy talk about wanting to override the mount by the red grass).

Doesn't bode well for kick ass open world gameplay.

I love being wrong though so we'll see.

The original had some sort-of sectioned out areas for a more cinematic, level-style gameplay, like the jungle bit where you find the hades sphere.

This by itself doesn't necessarily imply a change of direction, we'll need to see more.

 

[PandemiaPorcina]

PC players can enjoy last gen game version on their shiny systems lol

looks sweet

 

[Ezquimacore]

Oh no no no Alloy narrating every single action she does reminds me of Days Gone.

she did the same shit on the first game, Drake's does the same shit. it's a playstation thing

 

[Mister Wolf]

Looks good.

 

[MrLove]

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I hope to god we get character customization including different hair styles for Aloy.

 

[CrashNBurn_281]

Looks incredible. Enjoyed watching.

 

[angrod14]

Looks great. Will play on my dusty launch/base PS4.

 

[Yoboman]

I'm not saying that at all.

These companies shine a spotlight on the aspects of their games they're proudest of. It's like a dating profile for games. "Look at my best attributes. We're not going to focus on anything that I'm not proud of."

As of right now, Guerilla Games decided to showcase the game using linear, scripted level and mission design. It was a very hand holdy debut in my opinion. They think showcasing Forbidden West that way will get fans most excited.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN that Forbidden Wests open world will be bad. It might be the greatest open world ever made. It might be fantastic. It's simply a red flag (for me) that they didn't show us anything in terms of open world design.

Maybe that open world trailer comes out in a few months. I'm merely noticing what Guerilla decided to highlight, and what they chose to ignore for their big marketing debut.

You were expecting them to show how Aloy can go play darts at the local tavern, put decals on her mount and have the freedom to choose which quest market to go to first I guess

 

[TonyK]

Vegetation, apart from the ones to hide, not properly reacting (again) to player is the most disappointing for me. I continue not understanding how Zelda BOTW on Switch has better physics than Horizon 2 in PS5.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Sweet jesus!!!Thats is a cgi level shit

It looks super nice, but the more fidelity increases the more you notice the things there are missing. Like for example, those raptors must weight half a ton and yet they walk on sand as if it was concrete - they neither sink their feet on it, neither kick up sand nor have it get stuck on their feet.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The original had some sort-of sectioned out areas for a more cinematic, level-style gameplay, like the jungle bit where you find the hades sphere.

This by itself doesn't necessarily imply a change of direction, we'll need to see more.

I think you nail it here.

I simply went into the presentation hoping to see certain things. I wanted them to talk about how they blew out the world to make it feel more alive and to give the player more meaningful choices.

Just because I didn't get that doesn't mean it's not there. It does set off a bit of skepticism from me though

And again, these are just my preferences. A lot of people really dug what they saw.

 

[Lethal01]

Monster Hunter: Zero Dawn

Horizon: Breath of The Yawn

 

[Black_Mamba]

Not fond of the style, which is a bit too cartoonish for my tastes. I know you can't expect to see much ray tracing or complex illumination in such a sunny and colorful game, but comparing to what Kojima did with the same engine using a more realistic palette, I'm not impressed. It's not bad for a cross-gen game though.

 

[BGs]

Great intergen sandbox.

 

[Klayzer]

I really wouldn't bother mate.

He's known for trolling Sony threads.

For real. Him and dvd dude are trying their best to downplay. Just ignore.