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Horizon: Forbidden West | Gameplay Reveal Trailer
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Caio
Member
And The reason you post in this thread ? apart from the reasons we all already know....
There can be easy a 60fps option, so everybody is happy. Not confirmed yet dosn't mean you won't get it on Launch.
Garani
Member
Is this even a valid argument?
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Man, I just didn't like it. Took too long for me, and it was just plain boring. If other people like it, that~s good for them, but me? Nah, I would just avoid combat.
I still think that Killzone Guerrilla Games was better than Horizon Guerrilla Games. They knew how to make a heavy feel good shooter and I loved Killzone (despite the shitty storytelling).
Negotiator101
Member
What on earth are you on about?
LMJ
Member
Yeah I'm going to disagree, look again she sinks in the sand, she struggles going uphill and despite what many on here are saying (erroniously) she is interacting with nearly (upon rewatching she DOES clip through some plants) all vegetation
that's an aesthetic choice...so...what's the problem then
The combat looks infinitely better than the shit show the first game had, I and many on these boards think it looks fun, also unless you've played you have no clue how it "feels"
it's a demo, she likely also won't talk as much in the actual game
It's a demo, it was clearly sped up, watch the scene in slow mo, in fact numerous parts of the demo were fast forwarded and skipped from the looks of it...demo
I don't want to climb everything everywhere, and they've already improved this in two ways,
#1 You have to scan to find the climbable points now rather than...yello paint
#2 The movement of the game has become far more versatile and streamlined making running more fun and engaging.
We still might, given that this looks pretty early on, and if you watch again she also has explosive spears (the first weapon she uses on the mammoth when off the raptor)
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RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
lol all these people coming in and saying looks meh, gameplay looks meh... da fuck did you guys watch!? i watched this in 4K on my OLED and it looked incredible.... gameplay wise they showed a small section geared to highlight all the new skills and zipped to each encounter due to the limited time... when we get to play it you bet your arse i'm taking my time and exploring that area... and man that draw distance and density.. open world... these guys are masters and this is with an engine hamstrung by last gen tech, imagine what they or ND/Santa Monica are going to be able to do without having to support 8y.o. hardware...
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Opinions, how to they work?
ZehDon
Member
Visually striking stuff, but really not a fan of the fake backlighting on all of the characters. Sucks a lot of realistic depth out of the scenes to add some highlights that only really look good in screenshots.
What’s most impressive is the organic detail; the natural shapes and movement of the environment is really very well done. Interested to see this on the PS4.
What’s most impressive is the organic detail; the natural shapes and movement of the environment is really very well done. Interested to see this on the PS4.
Negotiator101
Member
You say its incredible then go on to say they are being held back by 8yo hardware and imagine what they can do when they're not. So which is it? Is it incredible or not?
skit_data
Member
Looking forward to see the DF Analysis video. They did one for the announcrment trailer, so I wanna see their take on comparing the two.Need them 200% zooms.
I have already had my hat and shoes for breakfast and I’ll probably have to eat my whole warderobe.
I actually never thought they would top the announcement trailer, but here we are.
I have already had my hat and shoes for breakfast and I’ll probably have to eat my whole warderobe.
I actually never thought they would top the announcement trailer, but here we are.
BootsLoader
Banned
It feels like Kojima Productions tweaking on the Graphics Engine have paid off.
mxbison
Member
Yeah, people said the same about TLOU2.
"Average combat" seems to be the go-to when you run out of other things to hate. Where are all the other games that play as well if that is the average lol.
TheGodfather07
Member
muteZX
Banned
Horizon got a paraglide wing ala using a shield in Zelda. Fine. But then why not jump from the tip of the Golden Gate pillar into the clouds underfoot. And when we jumped, why not sit on a flying dino during the fall and attack the elephant on the ground. GG = lack of ambition, generic talent, rigid in the rails of a 30-year-old gamedesign.
b0uncyfr0
Member
A few thing's i noticed (shadow/texture popin is quite apparent in some scenes and there's abit of clipping). Also Aloy's animation when picking up the gun is non-existent, it just clip's in. I expect better.
Combat seem's better, but again, we all knew fighting dino's would be good. Its the human's i'm more interested in. If they're dead/non-existent just like the first game, that's not gonna cut it.
This might be an oudated vertical slice though, so im waiting for preview's before i decide. At first glance, i wont be buying a PS5 just to play this.
Combat seem's better, but again, we all knew fighting dino's would be good. Its the human's i'm more interested in. If they're dead/non-existent just like the first game, that's not gonna cut it.
This might be an oudated vertical slice though, so im waiting for preview's before i decide. At first glance, i wont be buying a PS5 just to play this.
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Keihart
Member
A friend told that he had no idea why it looked weird to him how detached the characters are from the world. I had to explain him what was happening with the lighting.
Very interesting aesthetics choice, i cant really say if i like it yet but at least there is some real effort in having a characteristic aesthetics to the whole game.
If anything, this weird lighting on the characters its somewhat more in line with what they were already doing in the first game with the backgrounds, every TOD was fixed to some golden hour style of lighting, it looks somewhat disjointed when it transitions, e.g. afternoon to night, but it has the advantage of making everything look very "photo like" or "movie like".
Not a fan of how it looked in the first game really, but now that the characters are subject to something similar too, i kind off think it looks more consistent.
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Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
I like how the beams make its trail on the sand. Beautiful looking game as I expected. Finished the first one with platinum and really enjoyed everything in it, Forbidden West will be more enjoyable that I guarantee
longdi
Banned
Imo GG just showing the increased polygon characters of the ps5 version.
it is easier to awe when focused on the right items.
Lethal01
Member
PS4 is definitely holding this game back, but it's just the first year. We can deal with it.
ZehDon
Member
Yeah, that's certainly fair: instead of the usual attempts at photo-realism, they're employing a very stylised lighting approach that certainly gives the game a unique visual flourish - more so than games that attempt to just present photo real visuals with little in the way of artistic flourish. The unnatural look doesn't really vibe with the games realistic models and animations, at least for me. They feel at ends with one another. But, to each their own: its impressive work in any case, and it shard deny is definitely a step up from last generation.
shubik
Member
Wait till you see the PS4 version actually running. If this is what holding back looks like, I will take it gladly any day over 99% of the rest of what is coming out.
Lethal01
Member
I think it looks really nice
Dodkrake
Banned
Close the internet for today boys, we have a winner.
Lethal01
Member
Irrelevant, even if the PS4 version looks terrible it's still holding this game back. It's limiting design decisions and eating up dev resources.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Did you read the post I was replying to? The post said "Dude this looks way better than the first one in gameplay" and it looks almost identical, which is fine by me, I liked the first. I'm glad they seemed to have slightly improved melee since it was worthless in the first.
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Darius87
Member
do you still believe HZD looks better on PC then HFW on PS5?
shubik
Member
I don´t think it is irrelevant. We are talking about if it looks next-gen or not. Speculating how it might look better without the PS4 in the back of the developers mind is useless as we both can only guess.
shubik
Member
Why would you want to wait several years to play this game when you could have it this year with a fantastic controller?
LMJ
Member
A few things I've noticed
#1 to the people whining about the raptor not seeing Aloy in the grass, it does see something, that's why it's eyes go yellow, it only pulls off after the "wrangler/rider" calls it back. Now whether or not this translates to ingame we shall see
#2 Despite what many are claiming if we watch the traversing the environment gifs (above)we can see that Aloy does interact with nearly all vegetation.
#3 The special electric attack is likely a build-up gauge and we can see after she activates it (purple bar on the bottom of the hud) it depletes.
#4 The grabbable environments (ledges etc) have to be highlighted by doing a scan(makes me think we have MUCH higher traversal options this time)
#5 Aloy doesn't require a breath bar under water as she is using a rebreather.
#6 The sand deforms in real time and again despite what someone in this thread said earlier DOES slow Aloy down, and her feet Do sink in the sand (this may have been diminished for the demo)
#7 The demo is severely cut in places as Aloy, cuts I noticed were Aloy finds Arron despite going in a completely different direction. Slowly walking Thundertusk team is magically FAR away after the Arron hostage cutscene) The trip to the bridge happens in no time on the back of the raptor. (likely all for the demos sake)
#8 in the final scene we can see Arron is ALSO using his device like Aloy making me suspect she has been pushing the tech big time.
kuncol02
Dude watch the gif of her walking through the environment, nearly everything moves (albeit lightly) from her touch
#1 to the people whining about the raptor not seeing Aloy in the grass, it does see something, that's why it's eyes go yellow, it only pulls off after the "wrangler/rider" calls it back. Now whether or not this translates to ingame we shall see
#2 Despite what many are claiming if we watch the traversing the environment gifs (above)we can see that Aloy does interact with nearly all vegetation.
#3 The special electric attack is likely a build-up gauge and we can see after she activates it (purple bar on the bottom of the hud) it depletes.
#4 The grabbable environments (ledges etc) have to be highlighted by doing a scan(makes me think we have MUCH higher traversal options this time)
#5 Aloy doesn't require a breath bar under water as she is using a rebreather.
#6 The sand deforms in real time and again despite what someone in this thread said earlier DOES slow Aloy down, and her feet Do sink in the sand (this may have been diminished for the demo)
#7 The demo is severely cut in places as Aloy, cuts I noticed were Aloy finds Arron despite going in a completely different direction. Slowly walking Thundertusk team is magically FAR away after the Arron hostage cutscene) The trip to the bridge happens in no time on the back of the raptor. (likely all for the demos sake)
#8 in the final scene we can see Arron is ALSO using his device like Aloy making me suspect she has been pushing the tech big time.
kuncol02
Dude watch the gif of her walking through the environment, nearly everything moves (albeit lightly) from her touch
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longdi
Banned
For 21:9, >144hz, better graphics i guess. You can use DS on Steam iirc.
i think the time lag will be shorter now, a year maybe?
In Sony IR, they said more branching out of their IP.
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shubik
Member
Hmm got you. I think SONY will bring this game to PC. But this will probably happen at the end of the generation. I highly doubt they will release first-party PS5 games on PC anytime soon. This would contradict the whole strategy. Older titles as an entree point to relevant IP´s before the launch of new tiles is the name of the game here. At least at the moment.
Caio
Member
point one, I cannot get what you are talking about : Aloy and "environments" don't mix organically, maybe you might elaborate ?
Point 2, way too colorful in some scenes, it's just devs choice, and I like a lot. The beauty of taste and opinions.
Point3, I simply do not agree, I liked the Melee combat, and can be further improved in the final build; this is just an early Demo.
Point4 ""Hitboxes are horrible. In the mammoth fight Aloy just went through several objects without showing any impact or knock back."" this is related to the collision system engine, and again, this is an early Demo, furthermore you can still find this in finished AAA titles, 'cause much more accurate "collision and detection" system engine drain a lot of CPU power.
Point 5, it looks like you are desperately looking for something to say, but still it can be your desire to have something more sofisticated about the hacking system...and it's just you, For me it is fine like it is, no complains.
Point 6, this is not Zelda, and any climbing mechanics is related to its environment and gameplay mechanics.
Basicly I don't agree with you about 98% of what you have said
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Sybrix
Member
KB&M FTW
shubik
Member
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I noticed the gun animation but that must be something in their todo list, no way they just leave it like that.
MastaKiiLA
Member
In what ways exactly? I'd love for someone to actually back up this throw away comment so that it can quickly be dismantled.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That PS4 version will also be generating millions of dollars that Sony invested in this game.
I'm not happy about the cross-gen limitation either, but I understand why they did that. It was a game that apparently started development as the last PS4 title to be released, got delayed, and became a cross-gen game.