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God of War Sequel and Gran Turismo 7 are Cross Generation Titles
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Mr Moose
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skit_data
Member
Too bad, not interested. CDPR is a shit company purposefully misleading their most loyal fanbase and I’ve made the decision not buy the game at all, not even the next gen version.
I don’t preorder games and I had a (in hindsight) healthy skepticism towards CP2077 ability to blow my brains out in terms of graphics and game design.
It’s an outlier and if this industry has any integrity it will stay that way.
systemr123
Member
One thing is for sure though. The Sims 6 and fifa 32 will still be cross gen
VeganElduderino
Member
Oh well! The Ps5 versions of the games are going the super duper blockbuster monkey movie editions !
Zatzuken
Member
Are you new to this industry? Like really, this happenes all the time????
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
i just need GT7 to be fully playable in VR
Killer8
Member
Gran Turismo 7 makes sense. It's consistently a multi-million seller to justify the very long development time. Sony can't be expecting similar sales figures on PS5 at this point in time and there's nothing visually that can't be toned down to run on PS4.
GOW2 is disappointing because i'm pretty sure they were hyping that game up as one to take advantage of the PS5 SSD. I remember them saying they had to design GOW2018's world to have areas where assets would load in behind the scenes, for example when Kratos squeezes through a gap, and how SSDs now eliminated the need for that from a design pov. That's disappointing that they'll still be designing it with those limitations in mind.
GOW2 is disappointing because i'm pretty sure they were hyping that game up as one to take advantage of the PS5 SSD. I remember them saying they had to design GOW2018's world to have areas where assets would load in behind the scenes, for example when Kratos squeezes through a gap, and how SSDs now eliminated the need for that from a design pov. That's disappointing that they'll still be designing it with those limitations in mind.
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dcmk7
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sure they are
.they will take the miles Morales way...and do basically two versions?
squarealex
Member
Common, Sony PS3 Era have MORE MORE Balls..
Remember PS2 at 150millions ? PSP at 80 millions ? and PS3 cost 600$ ? Motorstom, Resistance, KillZone or Uncharted was never port to PS2
Also Crossgen = Easy port to PC, because no SSD PCIE4 needed and no custom controller I/O..
Good Job Sony...
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bentanchorbolt
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The only issues here was how Sony was not forthcoming about their plan to move forward with cross-generational gaming, but at the same time, did anyone really expect them to just turn their back on 100 millions PS4 owners?
I'm laughing my ass off....yes. Ain't karma funny sometimes?
Interfectum
Member
I mean this has been the way of consoles since the beginning. Was there a PS2 version of Lair or Heavenly Sword?
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dcmk7
Banned
I guess. The Xbox Power Meme thread turned out to be funny in hindsight.
MightySquirrel
Banned
This is getting sad.
Bragr
Banned
This motherfucker, was one of the worst game informer guys forever, got a suit and now he thinks he's the shit.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Check your last post and why you had to take a swipe and who had the most next gen games. Simple warringI did not console war, curious why you are in this thread though when you seem unable to appreciate things are not binary
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Look, I don't know what to tell you. I think it's lame to deceive your customers, especially to this extent - context matters. They straight up lied about the exclusivity (check the video floating in this thread) and it's also clear that they lied about the release date.
You don't seem to mind this type of deceitful business practice, so enjoy your bliss.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Does that make you feel any better or something? You still have no next-gen shit to play on that machine. Phil himself lied a lot, about timed-exclusives, “best launch line up ever” etc.
systemr123
Member
The architecture of those consoles were completely different, it makes sense to not cross gen games during that time.Common, Sony PS3 Era have MORE MORE Balls..
Remember PS2 at 150millions ? PSP at 80 millions ? and PS3 cost 600$ ? Motorstom, Resistance, KillZone or Uncharted was never port to PS2
Also Crossgen = Easy port to PC, because no SSD PCIE4 needed and no custom controller I/O..
Good Job Sony...
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I think Sony where somehow able to edit their Youtube video graphic overlays (i.e. 'exclusive') without having to re-upload I seem to remember?
systemr123
Member
Phil didn’t lie. It’s the best launch lineup ever for the xsx console... oh... wait...
Zatzuken
Member
Throwing around words like deceitful because a video game is coming a little later and will have a shittier port to another system in the same family of consoles?
Your gonna hate the stuff companies do to you in real life.
yes 20% isn't that much
yurinka
Member
Bullshit
-They released less crossgen for their heavy hitters because back then the consoles were very different so it was more difficult to make crossgen games and very likely because they didn't have 100 million monthly active users on the old console half a year after releasing the new one. Now it's way easier tech wise and makes more sense business wise.
-They released many huge games for the 'old console' during the first year or so of the 'new console' plus next gen ports or remasters for the new console at the start of the generation, of both big and small.
-They NEVER said they weren't going to avoid crossgen games. In the 'we believe in generations' interview they said they were going to support PS4 with new content during at least 2 o 3 years because PS4 had a never seen before amount of monthly active users.
-The Cerny talk was to explain the new technology inside the console and its potential usage. Devs never achieve the full potential of the console on their first year, they are a year or two migrating to the next gen and starting to see how to take full advantage of the new stuff. In the 2nd generation of games (traditionally they start to appear during late 2nd, 3rd year, but as dev cycles get longer it now may take longer). In fact, take a look at Unreal Engine 5. They are the ones who seem more advanced into it and they barely will release a beta now and the full release isn't expected until at least late this year, so games designed to take full advantage of that new UE5 stuff from scrath will take some time longer because will need time to test, implement it and master it.
-On top of that, many games start as designed for a console. But get delayed, take more time than originally expected and being released for another generation or as crossgen during its first years. So can't take full advantage of the next gen consoles.
-On top of that, the big ass AAA games need several years of development, and the first games to be released on consoles are developed without access to final devkits or even final tech console spects during a huge portion of the development, specially at the start. So can't be designed taking advantage of somthing they don't know that will exist in the future.
Yes, games take longer to develop so even if they are growing and will continue growing their studios, expect minimum ~4 years after these late 2021/early 2022 release (so ~2025) to see next gen only Horizon, GoW, GT.
Fake
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This is pretty much the modern Playstation account and their studios. If you make a critic or disagree, you get banned on twitter.
GuinGuin
Banned
Name a single "next gen gameplay" feature besides ratchet style Rift travel. We will wait.
There's a laugh. Assassin's Creed games are some of the lamest, laziest and ugliest games still being made. It doesn't hold a candle to Forbidden West.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Well, it's going to be hard to come to a point of agreement when you are actively pretending that this wasn't deceitful.
I mean, it was. And here you are acting like I'm "throwing the word around".
Also, not sure why you are writing off the fact that it is cross-gen. That does have an effect on the game's potential. Yes, even the PS5 version.
Sounds like you just don't want to acknowledge it and want everyone to shut up about it, to be frank.
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Craig of War
Banned
Only Possible with the SSD right yeah it was all a lie.
White-fire
Member
Yeah, like 8 months into the console lifecycle with like 4 PS5 exclusive games already. Get a grip dude. The generation just started don’t crap up this thread.
Also the people saying we have to wait till 2025 to see real exclusives on PS5 lol. Seriously, the lack of actual discourse and critical thinking in this thread is astounding. Let your emotions die down before making a fool out of yourselves.
Theres no other company now creating next-gen only/ready games but Sony that would even come close to “unlocking the potential of the SSD”.
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Kerotan
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Please do because every gamer that chooses this takes 1 name off the gigantic waiting list for a ps5.
As a ps5 owner I wish gt7 and gow2 were exclusive but we live in a world where ps5 will be severely supply constrained even in 2022. If gta6 is the year after them 2023 is fucked for supply too.
I get why they need to do this. A lot of fans for these series won't be able to get a ps5.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Jim Ryan about “we believe in generations” was never about “we will drop our support for the PS4 at launch, they never did that, so it quiet normal to see some titles on the previous gen console in the first 2 years.
yurinka
Member
It's already utilised, this is why basically all native PS5 games load faster than on Series X and than on PS4. But as happens every single generation, we won't see devs reaching the full console tech potential until half of the generation of so, with the 2nd or 3rd gen games.
Full version of Unreal Engine 5 is planned to be released late this year, and many studios are still making crossgen games, so I wouldn't expect to see it until 2023 or so.
They never said they were going to avoid crossgen games. They always said they wanted to see games using their next gen tech but that they were going to support PS4 during at least 2 or 3 years after PS5 launch. They are doing exactly what they said.
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VFXVeteran
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What I expect now is that the SSD->VRAM tech used in Nanite will be fully utilized for the PS6 and not this generation. It makes sense to bump up the GPU power next go around. Given the timeframe for development for these big budget games like God of War it will take us to the PS6 release window.
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It's easy to be honest when you have next to no games to release. Sony released two games which are exclusive to PS5. Both God of War and Horizon started production when PS4 was still selling upwards of 10m a year. So it's obvious they went for cross gen. They took risk with games which arent blockbuster.
By the way there are 4 PS5 exclusive game if you want to play.
Pedro Motta
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I'm loving the meldowns and the fake receipts.
I guess most of you already forgot what we saw with Horizon Forbidden West. It's fucking cross gen and one of the most advanced titles (graphically) ever seen.
I guess most of you already forgot what we saw with Horizon Forbidden West. It's fucking cross gen and one of the most advanced titles (graphically) ever seen.
Craig of War
Banned
Dude im not making it up lol the head of Playstation and Cerny said it if you gone be mad be mad at them for straight up lying to us all.
Okamiden
Member
And PS3 almost killed Sony as a company with losses which demolished profits from two previous generations lmao. Stop this child bullshit you allCommon, Sony PS3 Era have MORE MORE Balls..
Remember PS2 at 150millions ? PSP at 80 millions ? and PS3 cost 600$ ? Motorstom, Resistance, KillZone or Uncharted was never port to PS2
Also Crossgen = Easy port to PC, because no SSD PCIE4 needed and no custom controller I/O..
Good Job Sony...
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Making a game next-gen only early in a generation doesn't magically change that game dramatically as nobody is going to ditch the entirety of their last-gen tech that quickly for every game, particularly for large-scale games.
You make a big game that takes half a decade to make, that releases within a few years of a new generation, your sequel is going to be based on that tech you spent half a decade working on.. as well as going to be iterating on many of the art assets.
That's the reality of it. Sure some level design could change here or there, but if you think an occasional loading corridor being missing is actually a "dramatic change' for gaming I don't know what to tell you.
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