The moment we lose that voice, is the moment those companies win.And that's a good thing because gaming is a business or something.
As for Sony wanting money, I'm of two minds, mostly due to ignorance. How do servers and networks work for cross play? If it costs the market leader more to have cross play because more "foreign" systems are tapping into their servers then I could see an argument for it. That being said, how much does that actually cost? Do they actually host more than they normally would? Does the added value increase their revenue as a result? I don't know any of this but would like to before deciding one way or another.
Luckily I'll never play anything online with you then, butthead
When approximately 50% of Fortnite sales were on PS4 and they still insisted that they get a cut to cover the costs that they lost.Why is this such a bad thing to some of you guys? Yall realize that gaming is a business, right?
Sony is making it sound like you can’t have one without the other, but Nintendo has proven that they can get it to work with Rocket League. I buy and use a Nintendo related item on Switch, and it looks like a generic item to those on competing platforms.Crossplay makes sense. Cross-buy makes zero sense.
EXACTLY! Yet most people here and people that do podcast don't seem to know this or care about this fact.
Sony insists it really likes crossplay now, honest
Playstation CEO says the number of titles supporting it "will continue to grow."www.pcgamer.com
Sony wants cross-platform multiplayer in more games
PlayStation notoriously dragged its feet in allowing multiplayer games with multiple devices.www.axios.com
Doesn’t cost them anything!I used to not care about this till my kids started to play on PC, switch, and PS4 while I'm on ps5.
It is just such an awesome thing to get to do cross play. I'm converted.
As for Sony wanting money, I'm of two minds, mostly due to ignorance. How do servers and networks work for cross play? If it costs the market leader more to have cross play because more "foreign" systems are tapping into their servers then I could see an argument for it. That being said, how much does that actually cost? Do they actually host more than they normally would? Does the added value increase their revenue as a result? I don't know any of this but would like to before deciding one way or another.
No need to pay them for using crossplay unless there's a big difference against them regarding the game's userbase and revenue per platform.Nothing changed. They still want to get paid for Crossplay. Greedy cunts.
Maybe the reason of why this and many other JRPG, online or not, are PS exclusive is because a huge chunk of their sales are made in Japan and Xbox as an almost non-existant userbase there and Sony has a good one.That's the sole reason Final Fantasy XIV never came to Xbox.
What are you talking about? I had an issue with a season pass I bought but wasn't activated. They tried to solve it with different actions on my side and their side and didn't work, so they offered a refund. That day, the game got a new game update and fixed the issue. I told them the refund wasn't needed because the issue was already fixed, but they refunded me anyways. So I kept the season pass and got the money to buy something else.Until Sony drops their reimbursement requirements that they force onto Developers and Publishers, I don't believe a word of Sony liking cross-play.
Did you block me Shmunter ??It’s not anything to do with Sony becoming a pc publisher….nah, that can’t be it.
Yeah I agree. It's protecting their 30% cut instead of people buying it directly from e.g. Epic.I think all games should implement crossplay and cross-save.
No need to pay them for using crossplay unless there's a big difference against them regarding the game's userbase and revenue per platform.
Cases like a game having 80% of their players on PS4 (so generating costs for Sony regarding matchaking+trophies+chat+etc server costs, customer support costs, etc) but only generating 10% of the game's DLC & IAP revenue in PS4.
It isn't greed, it's to keep their ass safe making sure prices are the same in all platforms etc.
Maybe the reason of why this and many other JRPG, online or not, are PS exclusive is because a huge chunk of their sales are made in Japan and Xbox as an almost non-existant userbase there and Sony has a good one.
Yeah, we just don't like being lied to.Why is this such a bad thing to some of you guys? Yall realize that gaming is a business, right?
Nothing you've written has anything to do with my post. Quoted the wrong person?What are you talking about? I had an issue with a season pass I bought but wasn't activated. They tried to solve it with different actions on my side and their side and didn't work, so they offered a refund. That day, the game got a new game update and fixed the issue. I told them the refund wasn't needed because the issue was already fixed, but they refunded me anyways. So I kept the season pass and got the money to buy something else.
I am just ranting how these big companies are shit, and will do whatever they want, when they have the market lead.
Bear in mind that papa Sony wanted to do cross play back in the Xbox 360 days and Xbox stopped that from happening. Of course at that time the Xbox 360 had its fat foot on the PS3's neck when it came roaring out the gates and setting the sales charts on fire. A time when Xbox was all too happy to share Xbox sales stats via their PR mouthpiece in Aaron Greenberg. Now the situation is reversed.Do PlayStation diehards like Crossplay Now that Papa says it’s good?
Doesn’t cost them anything!
“ridiculous”As long as Sony gets their cut. It was one of the many ridiculous things that came out of the Epic/Apple trial.
Market leader lies and get caught and now doing damage control.“ridiculous”
Market leader wants money to change a policy that has a realistic chance of costing them money. Shocker.
"as long as publishers pay us"
couldn't care less about cross-play either way
They’ve been allowing cross platform play and to my knowledge are still charging so what’s the damage control? Most games that feasibly can offer cross platform play do. I’m not defending Sony here. They got blow back from their players and responded in a way that made sense to them. In what other industry does the market leader enable a feature that makes buying their competitors product easier for the consumer?Market leader lies and get caught and now doing damage control.
2K didn’t want to pay up.So like, what about Borderlands 3?
Market leader lies and get caught and now doing damage control.
ANTI CONSUMERYup, userbase isn't free lunch to keep other dry install base alive in a game.
ANTI CONSUMER
I'm a lil drunk, but I'm here too! Fuck crossplay!
Oh hello …..sorry im late guys im ready to defend Sony in not allowing crossplay
Why is this such a bad thing to some of you guys? Yall realize that gaming is a business, right?
Cause the main thing that a consumer should be worried about is their enjoyment of the product* and not the business reasons of the producers. Not having a well functioning cross-play leads to more cons than pro's.Why is this such a bad thing to some of you guys? Yall realize that gaming is a business, right?
Shill.I know, right? Don't they realize the gaming industry is a charity? They're attempting to profit off of their business. Disgusting.
If history has shown us anything then it's that other companies security teams should worry about Sony, not the other way aroundHow can it be anti-consumer to none if their consumers? I would rather keep the ecosystem clean from intruders and potential hacks and cheats that I can't easily monitor.