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343 Needs To Cut the Master Chief Sago Loose and Explore Other Stories in the Universe

Megatron

Member
Master Chief isn’t the game’s problem. The problem is hey aren’t making great games. Changing the main character won’t solve that.
 

Sony

Nintendo
That would be a good idea. That way they can experiment with gameplay more without the Halo fanbase losing their shit over clamber and sprint. Halo 4 and Halo 5, while both great game in my opinion, would have had a much, much better reception is not tied to mainline Halo.
 

Verchod

Member
Halo 3 ODST was a great game and showed what they could do if they mix it up a bit. More ODST
 
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REDRZA MWS

Gold Member
Wrong. You can’t make a Mario game without Mario. Halo isn’t Hallo without Master Chief. He’s an iconic character in an iconic universe. What 343 needs to do is kill team Osiris.

Like the above post, spin offs are always great . I’d love to see another game like REACH. It didn’t feature MC but was still very much Halo.
 
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No.

343 needs to learn what Halo really is about and shut the fuck up.

Bungie made two incredible spin-offs while still making great Halo games; Reach and ODST are awesome. 343's Halos aren't.
 

Entroyp

Member
Yes. They should have done that a long time ago. I recently tried H5 on gampass and oh boy, it’s bad.

Just reboot the whole thing already after infinite, which I’m afraid will be bad too, but I still have some hope.
 

AJUMP23

Gold Member
343 exist to make Halo games. That is what they do. Are they as good as bungie at it, no. Hopefully they catch the lightning with Halo infinite.
 

NullZ3r0

Banned
Ms needs to cut 343
343 isn't the problem, it's Halo fans. Chasing after nostalgia is a fools errand. I'm sure Halo Infinite will be a good game, but as a fan of Halo lore, other stories in the universe need to be explored in games. The success of Halo ODST proves this.

Halo 5 should have been two separate games.
 

Concern

Member
Fuck No GIF by memecandy


If there's any "cutting" it should be 343.
 
Except it isn't, MC is Halo. Nobody cares about the extended universe considering 343i has never made a good Halo game. That can't even get that right, so who cares about the EU?
IMO Master Chief Needs to cut 343i, and focus on himself. 343i killed Halo. I'm looking forward to seeing how crap Infinite turns out too
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
No, they tried that already with Halo 5 and created one of the biggest nobodies in gaming. They need to put a good Master Chief campaign first before they get another chance.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
If they get rid of the fucking promethean too i would be okay with that.

I onestly don't give a damn about master chief, people saying what a great character he is always sounded like low key trolling or self-depracating humor to me, he is stoic...and that's it, even his look\armour is pretty generic.

I guess the books make him more interesting but like 99% of halo players, nobody gives a fuck about the books.
 
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REDRZA MWS

Gold Member
Thosw that say no. Did you all forget about Reach and Odst. The best in the series bar 3.
As much as I loved both those games, even though I knew it wasn’t happening, I kept secretly hoping the Chief made a theatrical appearance.

Also, Bungie made both those games. Loved the both, especially REACH.
 
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Kuranghi

Member
Well its possible, MGS 2 shows you didn't need to be Solid Snake for it to be as good a game as MGS1, but then Raiden was more a stand-in for the player than an actual character in the universe so that example is a bit unfair.

I don't really care anymore, to be honest, its been 10+ years since there was a good Halo SP campaign. I await Halo: Infinites release with mild anticipation, but prepared for big disappointment after the reveal.

Forget all the obvious problems in the reveal, some more minor things concerned me more, like that the physics looked worse than Halo:CE, the warthog just hangs in the air and sinks down linearly after the jump, it was so bad to look at, that was when I really started to worry during the reveal trailer.
 
343 isn't the problem, it's Halo fans. Chasing after nostalgia is a fools errand. I'm sure Halo Infinite will be a good game, but as a fan of Halo lore, other stories in the universe need to be explored in games. The success of Halo ODST proves this.

Halo 5 should have been two separate games.
343 puts out a mediocre Halo game, a horrible one and a glitchy collection and you have the nerve to say 343 isn't the problem, Halo fans are.

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godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Thosw that say no. Did you all forget about Reach and Odst. The best in the series bar 3.
Did you forget about Halo 5? I beat the game on Legendary and right now I don’t remember even the name of the main character, whereas I still remember all other campaigns.
 
Give Master Chief a proper name and a face. Make him an actual character. Then you can have a mainline series starring the Chief, and simultaneously explore new stories with other characters.

MC is pretty iconic, so I can see many not being interested in the series without him. They just need to re-write and/or reconn his current story arc. 343i fucked up with Halo 4 onwards.
 

Diddy X

Member
First they need to secure the main Chief lore, make a successful MC game then they can go another route.
 

Genx3

Member
Halo can exist and there are already enough employees to support a trio of Halo games.

1) Continue making FPS Halo games to keep Halo fans happy.

2) The Halo Universe is begging for an RPG.

3) I always thought that a Hack and Slash game starring our favorite Elite soldier the Arbiter could be Amazing. Think Ninja Gaiden in the Halo universe where you fight all types of Covenant troops, Flood monsters and even pesky humans. Using your plasma sword, sticky grenades, camouflage invisibility all using exaggerated Ninja moves and strength.
 
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godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
To everybody saying "No". Do you forget ODST is probably the third best Halo SP game and it has not Master Chief?

I don't agree with killing Master Chief, but I would welcome new Halo games focused on different characters; they could be 1st person or 3rd person, but still action games.

Wtf is up with everyone digging up old Halo threads today?

It's a Sunday, and as a Halo fan our only options are to play Halo 5 or continue shitposting.
 
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Chief isn't the problem, it's 343i, that's like killing off Mario, Samus or Link for no reason. MC is Halo. 343i haven't made the perfect Halo game, hopefully Infinite fixes that

Just make MC games the mainline games and do spin-offs like Reach, Halo Wars or ODST. But killing MC won't solve anything. He's literally the reason why the Xbox brand exist.
 

Södy

Member
When they announced Infinite will be a "service game", I immediately thought it's perfect for little side stories. Give me Veta Lopis or Rion Forge.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
I don't think that they can found a more charismatic protagonist than generic green armoured military stoic dude or better aliens than bootleg gormiti tbh, they tried to innovate and we got the fucking prometheans...
 

kanjobazooie

Mouse Ball Fetishist
3) I always thought that a Hack and Slash game starring our favorite Elite soldier the Arbiter could be Amazing. Think Ninja Gaiden in the Halo universe where you fight all types of Covenant troops, Flood monsters and even pesky humans. Using your plasma sword, sticky grenades, camouflage invisibility all using exaggerated Ninja moves and strength.
Yes, please.
Playing Arbiter in KI was so satisfying.
 
nah. they tried cut back on MC in Halo 5 and look how that turned out. a bunch of angry fanboys threw a shit fit and convinced 343 to reboot the series basically. I quite enjoyed Halo 5 for what it is but that doesn't mean i agreed with it having less MC and making Cortana the big bad.

I want a game focused on MC + Cortana. That's what Halo is all about. If they want to explore other characters then do it in spin offs not the mainline titles.

i honestly hope we don't get another major Halo game for a long time. keep working on Infinite adding new stories. i wouldn't mind if they copied Destiny in releasing new expansions every year. but we'll see how Infinite is first....

Master Chief is a boring af character
you're boring
 
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Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Didnt they basically try this with Halo 5, Locke was supposed to be the next protagonist.......people didnt like it.

Halo fans like Master Chief.
Locke can have spinoff games but he aint the main character.
 

Tschumi

Member
Op, if you're lurking, know that i agree with you. Actually i thought his story was done after the first title.
 

MMaRsu

Banned
nah. they tried cut back on MC in Halo 5 and look how that turned out. a bunch of angry fanboys threw a shit fit and convinced 343 to reboot the series basically. I quite enjoyed Halo 5 for what it is but that doesn't mean i agreed with it having less MC and making Cortana the big bad.

I want a game focused on MC + Cortana. That's what Halo is all about. If they want to explore other characters then do it in spin offs not the mainline titles.

i honestly hope we don't get another major Halo game for a long time. keep working on Infinite adding new stories. i wouldn't mind if they copied Destiny in releasing new expansions every year. but we'll see how Infinite is first....


you're boring
Ive played the Halo games but can you explain what makes him a good or interesting character?
 

UnNamed

Banned
For me, the Master Chief arc was done with the first three games. Then 343i wanted to expand the lore with stories from the books, but imho it wasn't a great idea.

The game is called Halo, not MC. At some point MC should cope with his life, retire and grow flowers before the story jump the shark and turn in a bad Sonic-like fanfiction.
 
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