Famous youtuber Jayz2cents shits on leonidas
Totally slams intel for their powerdraw.
You've entirely missed the point - nothing there dumps on anything Leo has said in this thread regarding gaming.
Entirely fair to post this thread & set the record straight on Alder Lake's power usage during non production workloads like gaming, especially given the posts we've had. They've done well on the production side to counter AMD albeit at high wattage, but they were also reasonably far behind before and are doing so at a significantly lower price. I'd like to see some production comparisons with PBO enabled for Zen3 against Alder Lake given similar cooling constraints.
That said: I'm a little underwhelmed by the performance improvements in gaming versus Zen 3.
A year later, entirely new node for desktop, 4 microarchitectures down the line from Skylake and going on Igor's numbers a 12900KF is ~2-4% faster than a 5900X @ 1080p?
Far Cry 6 sits as an outlier at 16-17% faster. Notable and closer in line with some of the IPC increases but not exactly a
well optimized game. It gives me pause - need to see more benches in more games.
Room for refinement with the 13th gen I imagine, but this time around most of the big talk from Pat Gelsinger, in retrospect, seems to have been aimed at HEDT & server space, IMHO.
The 12600K is a lot more interesting for its place in the market. Looks like right powerful little beauty and has to force price adjustments on AMD's side for midrange too.
I think they're going to do really well with this on the laptop side, eating away at the inroads AMD have made there.
whose team? what? fanboys who? you live in a weird world man.
Outside of little meaningless internet wars about chipmaker brands, there are such things as mathematics logic inference etc, which are used to predict future behaviors. Alder lake performance per watt in gaming is half of what their chip uses when fully loaded. Games tend to use more cpu as time goes on. Its a statistical truth. You can infeer that perf watt will get worse = in gaming! in other software its already terrible.
They've made a few posts now basically attacking a generalisation of an AMD fan, as if they're all some kind of amorphous blob or hivemind, rather than addressing the individual's points.
Internet forums, eh?
As for scaling you're right and you're wrong. AFAIK many of these power hungry production workloads are a lot more AVX/AVX2 heavy than games are on a per core basis. Games themselves would need to more heavily utilise these instruction sets for it while scaling out to cores for this worst case to hold true.