Bruno_Arrais85
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Where the fuck is Fat Ass Who Dreams of being a Pro Player But Failed month?Where is the bald month pride? I want to be represented!!!!
Fucking woke society.
youre the one ignorant. Read up before you spew nothing burgers. The person you quote literally says Governor retaliated at Disney. Attacked one of Disney’s benefits, but Disney isn’t responsible for any of it until Floridan Taxpayers pay the current debt. Those are FACTS. Now point less and read more.So you chose to remain ignorant. Not surprising.
Should’ve looked more closely at your (childish) avatar
You dismissed my comment and pointing to a summary to do a troll response that added nothing new. Had you started with this post instead, there may have been more to talk about.youre the one ignorant. Read up before you spew nothing burgers. The person you quote literally says Governor retaliated at Disney. Attacked one of Disney’s benefits, but Disney isn’t responsible for any of it until Floridan Taxpayers pay the current debt. Those are FACTS. Now point less and read more.
The summaries all confirm what I said. Disney posted a empty PR support for gay progressives. Nothing but to emptily appease. Gov did throw a hissy fit. Because Disney isnt paying the bill, taxpayers are. If that isnt a hissy fit, I dont know what is. Unless he’s your dad or a Floridian taxpayer, you’ll be ok. It’s ok.You dismissed my comment and pointing to a summary to do a troll response that added nothing new. Had you started with this post instead, there may have been more to talk about.
Calling a decision a “hissy fit” over and over was probably a poor way to get your point across.
Haven’t read the majority of posts in this thread, but haven’t seen people saying “fuck (insert name of person they disagree with)” or any calling of anyone a horrible piece of trash so far. Era is a place of zealously and hatred.Some people are so desperate to virtue signal that they are anti-woke (oh the irony) they end up sounding bigoted as fuck.
Try to ignore it. It’s the same mentality as what you get at Era from the other side of the equation. The majority here arent like it.
What about the open air metropolitan orgies?I believe the Pride month is important, but companies that want to say they support the cause need to do more than just changing their logo, and if EA don't want to change theirs, that's okay. I don't like some of the comments in this thread though. The Pride month is not about wanting to be treated in a special way or telling everyone about one's private life, it's about rights and normalization of LGBT people. Pride is a way of showing people there's nothing wrong being LGBT, it helps with normalization and it's a thing that incentives people to fight for their rights worldwide.
From a pure logic perspective, this makes almost no sense at all. Your argument is that the group wants to be "normalized." A whole especially carved out month is NOT the way to "normalize" anything.I believe the Pride month is important, but companies that want to say they support the cause need to do more than just changing their logo, and if EA don't want to change theirs, that's okay. I don't like some of the comments in this thread though. The Pride month is not about wanting to be treated in a special way or telling everyone about one's private life, it's about rights and normalization of LGBT people. Pride is a way of showing people there's nothing wrong being LGBT, it helps with normalization and it's a thing that incentives people to fight for their rights worldwide.
According to the internet August is hairless awareness month. You are woke.Where is the bald month pride? I want to be represented!!!!
Fucking woke society.
Humans have a tendency to fear what's unknown. Exposure is definitely a way to normalize something. When you see something everyday, you stop caring, and most people that personally know an LGBT person in their everyday lives tend to be chill. This is the same idea that drives the push for representation (and sometimes overrepresentation) in media, like games. Personally I agree with the logic and I have seen how this had an effect in the real world. Before, no one would talk about LGBT, it's was a taboo thing. I'm currently 23, and when I was 12 I had the courage to come out as gay to my mother because the soap opera she was watching had a gay character in it and she didn't seem to react negatively to it. Things like Pride and representation have real world benefits to people, and create a ripple effect that starts affecting even countries where LGBT people are censored and killed.From a pure logic perspective, this makes almost no sense at all. Your argument is that the group wants to be "normalized." A whole especially carved out month is NOT the way to "normalize" anything.
Nothing wrong with LGBT (and we have some awesome LBGT GAFers here) but the activists of the last few years have done that overall group a huge disservice. The 99% of normal LGBT people that want to live their lives as anyone else, they should distance themselves from the activists.
That's irrelevant to the original purpose of Pride. There will always be people that do something inappropriate, but the core idea stays the same.What about the open air metropolitan orgies?
Still waiting for my day, week or month for being a straight white male.I don't support nor celebrate pride month. Nothing against gay people, but I just simply don't care enough.
Still waiting for my day, week or month for being a straight white male.
Well said. It's a very important distinction.I think people are just taking jabs at the woke ideology and not at LGBT people.
Please understand I'm not trying to minimize your personal experience. I'm really not, and thanks for sharing by the wayHumans have a tendency to fear what's unknown. Exposure is definitely a way to normalize something. When you see something everyday, you stop caring, and most people that personally know an LGBT person in their everyday lives tend to be chill. This is the same idea that drives the push for representation (and sometimes overrepresentation) in media, like games. Personally I agree with the logic and I have seen how this had an effect in the real world. Before, no one would talk about LGBT, it's was a taboo thing. I'm currently 23, and when I was 12 I had the courage to come out as gay to my mother because the soap opera she was watching had a gay character in it and she didn't seem to react negatively to it. Things like Pride and representation have real world benefits to people, and create a ripple effect that starts affecting even countries where LGBT people are censored and killed.
The fact LGBT people have more rights in the west is exactly because of the political push for rights with pride and whatnot. In countries where such things are not allowed, discrimination and murder of LGBT people is still a reality. This is why it's important.
All. Talk.Well….did they fucking leave or was it all talk?
I want you to reflect why, in the last couple of decades, people are becoming more accepting of LGBT people in the west, and why in countries where anything about LGBT is censored and criminalized the opposite is true. You can only treat me like anyone else because you see me as just another human being, however, in other places, being LGBT has such a negative connotation that people don't see things that way. When people get exposed to something and they realize it's not actually a threat or something negative, the likelihood they'll be more accepting of that thing is increased. People simply become desensitized, and this is not something that takes conscious effort to happen. This is the same logic behind why in violent places no one gets shocked when a murder happens but in safe countries any murder gets on the headlines for days. When things become common they become normalized.Please understand I'm not trying to minimize your personal experience. I'm really not, and thanks for sharing by the way
But still, on a logical level... Normalization happens by... acting normal, by definition. To any member of the LGB group, their orientation is a part -- an important one, even -- of who they are. But it's NOT, and should never be, the only part or the defining part.
For example, we're here, right? To me, you and I are equal members of this forum. You have an avatar, which is the Mario avatar. I don't think of you as "oh yeah that gay poster." You may very well be, but that's not primary in our interactions. All I know is that you may potentially be a Mario fan, or even a Nintendo fan at large, so I'll probably run into you in Nintendo-centric topics. So because I think of you as a Mario fan, and our primary interactions are about video games, by definition I'm normalizing you. Because I interact with you here as I do with everyone else.
But if you constantly tell me you're gay and I have to make special exceptions for you and interact with you in a special way specifically because you're gay, that's the OPPOSITE of "normalizing."
Again, I point to LGBT members here. We talk shit and do platform warrior shit in the video game section, and talk about random shit in off-topic. But there ARE at least one or two gay-centric threads in off topic, and even to me (a straight guy) I pop in those from time to time because those threads are fun as hell.
Or oh, I don't know, don't base your entire life and identity crusading about something most people will never truly care deep down about no matter how much they virtue signal because it's irrelevant to and totally removed from the day to day lives of 95% of the population?I have no problem with supporting gay people,and that's what the pride flag used to mean to me.Problem for me is the whole thing has been hijacked by a lot of mentally ill people who want to identify as Demons and Cake......I find waving a flag for these types to be in really bad taste and don't support the normalisation of mental illness.Gay people should split from these loons and let them have the flag.....create their own thing like the LGB alliance have done.
If gay people want to flaunt it at parades go ahead. I'll never attend. I'm indifferent to them too. Who really cares if someone is gay or not? I dont walk down the street or go to the office and the first thing I think about if if he or she is straight, gay or bi. Dont care.I have no problem with supporting gay people,and that's what the pride flag used to mean to me.Problem for me is the whole thing has been hijacked by a lot of mentally ill people who want to identify as Demons and Cake......I find waving a flag for these types to be in really bad taste and don't support the normalisation of mental illness.Gay people should split from these loons and let them have the flag.....create their own thing like the LGB alliance have done.
One of the coolest things about being part of this forum is that we are... (*checks notes*)...Can we please have a little more sympathy around here for woke, authoritarian people who simply want to compel speech and cancel all speech and comedy they disagree with?
It should be assumed anyone who disagrees is a
racist
homophobic
gluten sympathizing
misogynist
transphobe.
I have indeed thought about it, and in fact you brought up a good point about "other places" which only helps make the point that some (notably DeepEnigma ) have already made in this very thread:I want you to reflect why, in the last couple of decades, people are becoming more accepting of LGBT people in the west, and why in countries where anything about LGBT is censored and criminalized the opposite is true. You can only treat me like anyone else because you see me as just another human being, however, in other places, being LGBT has such a negative connotation that people don't see things that way. When people get exposed to something and they realize it's not actually a threat or something negative, the likelihood they'll be more accepting of that thing is increased. People simply become desensitized, and this is not something that takes conscious effort to happen. This is the same logic behind why in violent places no one gets shocked when a murder happens but in safe countries any murder gets on the headlines for days. When things become common they become normalized.
In my country when gay relationships were legalized it was under the presumption that members of the gay community will be discreet and respectful towards the general public (all that written and still part of the actual law). It was never meant to be this blackmailing, celebrating and amoral circus we ended up with and I'm not quite sure how we got there. The pendulum have swung way too far.I have indeed thought about it, and in fact you brought up a good point about "other places" which only helps make the point that some (notably DeepEnigma ) have already made in this very thread:
The call for a shallow/symbolic alliance from EA rings extra hollow when the same calls aren't being made in places where LGBT are truly and horrible oppressed. As far as the liberal West goes, not only are LGBT already normalized... You can argue that there's been an overshoot. I can't think of any single group of people in American history (I'm American and can only speak in terms of the US) that has been more overly protected, coddled, and given special treatment, than the LGBT group is in 2022.
I'm confident that some of the Stonewall guys (you know, the ones from the 1969 riots) would shake their collective heads at some of the shenanigans that the extremist LGBT people are pulling these days.
One of the coolest things about being part of this forum is that we are... (*checks notes*)...
"A cesspool of free thinkers."
EA backtracked.
It all depends where you are. There are many places, even within western countries, that aren't safe at all. The laws might say one thing, but how people react in the real world is another. There's also politicians always threatening to pass some discriminatory bill, which is one of the reasons I believe no one should take rights for granted.As far as the liberal West goes, not only are LGBT already normalized... You can argue that there's been an overshoot. I can't think of any single group of people in American history (I'm American and can only speak in terms of the US) that has been more overly protected, coddled, and given special treatment, than the LGBT group is in 2022.
Ah yes I remember the bit about the power Disney had over the land there. Thanks for the detailed response!Florida passed a law preventing teachers from discussing things of a sexual nature with students under the age of 8. A law that seems to be common sense but that these days needed to be on the books. For some reason the LGBT lobby decided that law was anti-LGBT because it wouldn't allow them to groom, indoctrinate and confuse little kids anymore so they started calling the bill the "don't say gay" bill even though the word gay isn't even in the bill. The lobby then went to Disney, a so called "ally" and a huge company in Florida to campaign against it. At first Disney said, we're staying out of this, lawmaking isn't what we do. But then the lobby and Disney LGBT employees raised a fuss on social media and Disney backtracked and grovelled in apology before the mob and started actively campaigning against the bill; a bill that the vast majority of Florida voters supported. So basically they were opposing democracy. This pissed off Florida's governor who decided to revoke Disney's special rights in Florida. Basically Disney was operating as its own independent nation within the state, they had total self-governance on their land, they could build what they wanted, do what they wanted and paid no state taxes. This was an old agreement dating back 60 years and it was very advantageous for Disney, but now they lost it because of their undemocratic activism.
No they said only turning your logo rainbow is "rainbow washing", you need to do more to show you really care about LGBT causes. EA stayed quiet but after some pressuring EA released a statement that they wouldn't simply change their logo that they will actually support the cause in meaningful ways but have yet to do or announce anything of substance to these people.I don’t understand - so they threatened to walk out if EA will not stop being wishy washy, EA then said: “Ok, fuck your Pride Month”, and snowflakes just said ok, fine with us? Am I understanding this right?
No they said only turning your logo rainbow is "rainbow washing", you need to do more to show you really care about LGBT causes. EA stayed quiet but after some pressuring EA released a statement that they wouldn't simply change their logo that they will actually support the cause in meaningful ways but have yet to do or announce anything of substance to these people.
Sounds reasonable, but you'll get flip floppers wanting attention when they see fit.Best thing to support LGBT Causes? Ignore them. Treat them like they are every day people. *That* is what we should be doing. Not infantilizing them and treating them like they need special support or awards/presentations/parades.
What?! People in this community are actively attack, isolated, threatened by shitty religious bigots the world over, and regularly stigmatized. Ignoring them is just enabling the fuckos.Best thing to support LGBT Causes? Ignore them. Treat them like they are every day people. *That* is what we should be doing. Not infantilizing them and treating them like they need special support or awards/presentations/parades.
They didn't backtrack, read the article, they were always planning on doing something this monthEA backtracked.
Sadly, we will always see this no matter the case.Sounds reasonable, but you'll get flip floppers wanting attention when they see fit.
There will always be those that take advantage of any situation and try to wring it for all its worth. Whether its morbidly obese people using powered scooters to get around instead of people with physical walking disabilities, amputees, etc, or soccer moms lying about having some mental disorder they self diagnosed to procure medications or special treatment at work. However, whenever this happens I feel people should speak up and changes should be made to have these services designed for people who specifically need it.It's kinds of like handicapped people (mental or physical). On one hand they say we're like everyone else so treat us the same. But then there's times they want special treatment and recognition for anything from parking spots, preferred seating on public transit to easier access to getting a job as an employee with a disability.
So which is it?
It's when there's personal gain from it. If it's an issue where there's nothing to gain or not an interesting topic worth fighting for, nobody cares. When it's something which can lead to a perk and smile on their face, people want in.
What?! People in this community are actively attack, isolated, threatened by shitty religious bigots the world over, and regularly stigmatized. Ignoring them is just enabling the fuckos.
Comon - we all wish everyone was equal in all ways but that's not even true on GAF let alone in the world. Let's not minimize. There can be better ways at supporting, and that's an honest debate, but "let's just ignore our differences" is fucking atrocious. And yes, feel bad for even suggesting it.