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[Bloomberg] Sony plans on producing 2 million PSVR2 units by March 2023

saintjules

Member
Nice I really hope we see something soon.

Charlie Chaplin GIF by Coolidge Corner Theatre

Will most likely be a part of a PS Showcase I feel. Would make sense to reveal price and release date this way, just like the PS5.
 

Resenge

Member
The extra box sits behind the console so no biggie. The only cable that is bothersome is the cable attached to the VR unit itself.

Has Sony fully confirmed it will be a usb C cable and that’s it? Haven seen that yet but fingers crossed

So what software was strong?

How many AAA games were fully playable in VR?

Wipeout, resident evil? What else? I know loads of games had addon features like GT sport but it got boring racing one car round the circuit.
Your trap is asking for AAA games so let's just ignore that because it discludes some games that need to be on this list.

I have already given up on PSVR and am waiting for PSVR2 (I think Sony has too) so I'm out of the loop. let me list some games that I think deserve to be ported to PCVR or given the backwards compatibility treatment from my PSVR gaming history.

Blood and Truth,
Astrobot Rescue Mission,
Firewall Zero Hour, (Needs Aim controller for maximum fun)
Farpoint, (also needs Aim controller)
Rush of Blood,
Statik,
Everybodys golf (needs a second crack at the whip imo)
Iron Man.

There would be more I guess but they have already been ported to PCVR which makes this list smaller than it would have been a 2 or 3 years ago, but each of these games are fuly fledged VR games and are better than most VR games IMO. This is the type of base level quality I want from VR games.
 
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reinking

Gold Member
Cables kills it for me.... ...gotta go put my order in for Quest 2 link cables. People keep pooping on the PSVR 2 because of the cables. There is a reason Quest 2 came out with link cables.

Link cables will not kill it for me. Over pricing it will. Under $500 and I am day one if the preorder gods smile on me.
 
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I always thought PSVR had Tech Demos. Not true triple A games. Another issue is, PSVR isn't universal like other VR headsets, Oculas, Quest etc... The games aren't backwards compatible on PS5.
 

hlm666

Member
How else are you going to have a $400 headset with those specs? No wire for the price point means a very subpar VR or a very expensive one. It needs the PS5 hardware.
They could have had a port on the hmd so they could let people spend some more money on an addon that had a battery and wifi pack and have something like the dlink vr air bridge. Kinda like how the ssd expansion on the console was a good idea. The wifi options are something your going to see mentioned in reviews going forward as pico and meta will both have the option and valves next vr device is rumored to be standalone with wifi connectivity.

There is a reason Quest 2 came out with link cables.
People with old routers?
 
Good, I’ll take yours.
I won't be buying one, sorry.
Not sure why wanting a wireless device brings out such negativity.
For me the real issue is the bulk of that thing, just like with all VR headsets so far. After seeing the small size of the upcoming Quest Pro, all other headsets now look horribly unwieldy.

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That’s how a VR headset should look. Everything else looks like a Virtual Boy in comparison.
I wish the Quest Pro didn't cost so much, but yeah, it looks hella legit.
How else are you going to have a $400 headset with those specs? No wire for the price point means a very subpar VR or a very expensive one. It needs the PS5 hardware.
If I have to sacrifice certain aspects of the quality to go wireless, so be it. And for the record, you don't. Wireless works really well with AirLink so long as you are close to your router. Have used it a number of times with my Quest 2 via PC VR.
It would have worse image quality otherwise. What would you prefer?
I'd gladly take a reduction is specs versus an immersion breaking wire, but you really don't have to tbh. AirLink works really well in the PC space.
 

SLB1904

Banned
For me the real issue is the bulk of that thing, just like with all VR headsets so far. After seeing the small size of the upcoming Quest Pro, all other headsets now look horribly unwieldy.

l0dts1ys9an91.jpg


That’s how a VR headset should look. Everything else looks like a Virtual Boy in comparison.
Good luck stopping the light going through with that size
 
Cables kills it for me.... ...gotta go put my order in for Quest 2 link cables. People keep pooping on the PSVR 2 because of the cables. There is a reason Quest 2 came out with link cables.

Link cables will not kill it for me. Over pricing it will. Under $500 and I am day one if the preorder gods smile on me.
Well yeah, give the customer options. Play native on the headest, wired into the PC, or wireless with your PC via router. Seems like a good thing to give consumers options.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
Your trap is asking for AAA games so let's just ignore that because it discludes some games that need to be on this list.

I have already given up on PSVR and am waiting for PSVR2 (I think Sony has too) so I'm out of the loop. let me list some games that I think deserve to be ported to PCVR or given the backwards compatibility treatment from my PSVR gaming history.

Blood and Truth,
Astrobot Rescue Mission,
Firewall Zero Hour, (Needs Aim controller for maximum fun)
Farpoint, (also needs Aim controller)
Rush of Blood,
Statik,
Everybodys golf (needs a second crack at the whip imo)
Iron Man.

There would be more I guess but they have already been ported to PCVR which makes this list smaller than it would have been a 2 or 3 years ago, but each of these games are fuly fledged VR games and are better than most VR games IMO. This is the type of base level quality I want from VR games.


realistically how many of them are AAA games?
 

Resenge

Member
I asked specifically what AAA games are on PSVR. you respond with some ok games but nothing is a system seller and my point is the software side is weak not the hardware
And I specifically dismissed your question as a trap. AAA does not equal a good game. A good game does not need to be AAA.
 

Three

Member
Will most likely be a part of a PS Showcase I feel. Would make sense to reveal price and release date this way, just like the PS5.
I wouldn't count on it to be honest. The actual PSVR2 itself was just shown on some random day out of the blue. I don't think a price would be showcase worthy.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
And I specifically dismissed your question as a trap. AAA does not equal a good game. A good game does not need to be AAA.


AAA are the system Sellars. most of the games are epieriences not games. there is no God of War type seller for VR as of yet. nothing on VR at the moment ia A MUST they are just fun and that's the problem on the software side
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
And I specifically dismissed your question as a trap. AAA does not equal a good game. A good game does not need to be AAA.
Some of the best games I played the past 2 gens have been AA. Short, but fulfilling experiences as well. Something I much prefer for VR, not saying I wouldn't play a long AAA banger, but it would take me forever since I don't prefer long VR sessions compared to traditional gaming.
 
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Ansphn

Member
Good. VR is the future and the next step for video games. Not subscriptions, not cloud streaming. The immersion alone is groundbreaking. The hardware just has to catch up to the potential.

I'm buying 2, thats for sure.
 
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Resenge

Member
AAA are the system Sellars. most of the games are epieriences not games. there is no God of War type seller for VR as of yet. nothing on VR at the moment ia A MUST they are just fun and that's the problem on the software side
How to tell me you have no experience with VR games without telling you have no experience with VR games.

Every game I listed is a fuly fledged game, full story, full multiplayer. good graphics, good gameplay. Astrobot itself topped the charts in the UK and was definitely a system seller. Not one of the games I listed is a tech demo and there are many more.

Unfortunatly VR is also a test bed for Devs to screw about and sell Wii lvl shovelware so it gets lumped with the VR is all tech demo, which is not totally true but VR does need some better games for sure.
 
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Sosokrates

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Ahh, so did we imagine Rockstar implementing VR in older GTA games and saying they're gonna continue implementing it on more games?

And you think it's a pipe dream that we'll get GT7 playable in VR, when GT Sport already had a VR mode? Or that Sony could implement a VR play/spectate mode into MLB which is being put on all platforms under the sun? Or that they could have a dedicated Spider-Man VR experience (or mode in Spider-Man 2), when Insomniac has plenty of VR experience and Sony have already made a Spider-Man PSVR experience for a movie tie-in? Link

lol, sure thing bud. It's all a pipe dream ;)
Porting pancake games to VR is a pretty aweful experience, apart from a few most people would ratger play those games on a TV because the VR experience is uncomfortable.
 
Unless the options weaken the over all experience.
It doesn't. As long as you have a decent router and its close to your headset, AirLink works like a charm and I've never noticed any perceived input lag that would make the experience otherwise worse. Imagine if you had a newer Wifi6 router and a headset compliant with that, would be even better.
 

R6Rider

Gold Member
I need that pre-order to go live when I'm ready. I got lucky with the PS5, but I can see myself getting fucked over on this. PS5 owners should get first priority, or hell let accounts with PSVR games have initial priority.
 

vivftp

Member
Porting pancake games to VR is a pretty aweful experience, apart from a few most people would ratger play those games on a TV because the VR experience is uncomfortable.

It will vary from game to game and from implementation to implementation. For example, RE8 seems to have gotten overwhelmingly positive impressions from those who tried it on PSVR2 recently.
 

K2D

Banned
Day 1, but I'm weary there'll not be enough sets to go around in my territory come launch.
 

Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
It will vary from game to game and from implementation to implementation. For example, RE8 seems to have gotten overwhelmingly positive impressions from those who tried it on PSVR2 recently.

In those impressions was it addressed what tolerance the testers had? I mean people that have high tolerance are going to have more positive impressions.

PSVR2 and RE8 might greatly improved the comfort level, but I have my doubts the motion sensing tech in PSVR2 seems comparable to the quest 2.
However I dont doubt that RE8 will be one of the better pancake ports considering capcoms experience with VR.
 

vivftp

Member
In those impressions was it addressed what tolerance the testers had? I mean people that have high tolerance are going to have more positive impressions.

PSVR2 and RE8 might greatly improved the comfort level, but I have my doubts the motion sensing tech in PSVR2 seems comparable to the quest 2.
However I dont doubt that RE8 will be one of the better pancake ports considering capcoms experience with VR.
You'd have to go through 'em to check. I watched several videos and don't recall too many comments on the users VR legs.
 

Sosokrates

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You'd have to go through 'em to check. I watched several videos and don't recall too many comments on the users VR legs.
Most of the impressions I've listened too have said that RE8 feels similar to boneworks and half life Alyx with some of its own new additions.
But still, most people are going to prefer playing pancake games on TV's because it is a better experience.
 

reinking

Gold Member
It doesn't. As long as you have a decent router and its close to your headset, AirLink works like a charm and I've never noticed any perceived input lag that would make the experience otherwise worse. Imagine if you had a newer Wifi6 router and a headset compliant with that, would be even better.
I don't know how you can say it doesn't without having the knowledge of the PSVR 2 unit.
 

SLB1904

Banned
It doesn't. As long as you have a decent router and its close to your headset, AirLink works like a charm and I've never noticed any perceived input lag that would make the experience otherwise worse. Imagine if you had a newer Wifi6 router and a headset compliant with that, would be even better.
Airlink doesn't work like a charm. There a bunch videos online on " how to make the games look less blurry using airlink"
You guys are the worst is like the PC players like to flex 4k 120fps when they can barely get a decent framerate at 4k.
 

aclar00

Member
Sony just needs to not half ass it on the software front. They seem to have commitment issues when it comes to peripherals and never put in the risk needed to make them fully successful.

As a long time Playstation only gamer it would somehow feel weird to me to have PSVR2 accessible on PC, but it would undoubtedly aid in its success. Also fits with their 1st party PC ports. They could do the same with VR games...and third parties could create PC games compatible with it too...giving it a wider audience.

If they reall have 2mil planned shipped by March, then i think there is a hood chance it will be compatible with PC....unless theyve said otherwise.
 
Airlink doesn't work like a charm. There a bunch videos online on " how to make the games look less blurry using airlink"
You guys are the worst is like the PC players like to flex 4k 120fps when they can barely get a decent framerate at 4k.
I'd wager "the worst" are the people who speak about things they have no experience with. As long as you have a good router and take the steps to have a good experience with AirLink, you will. If you have a shit router or stand too far away because its in another room, or you are on the 2.4ghz band, then you won't have a good time.

It's not perfect, but under ideal conditions which are not hard to meet, it works really well.

I don't know how you can say it doesn't without having the knowledge of the PSVR 2 unit.
I was talking about the Quest 2. AirLink being mentioned specifically should have keyed you into the fact I wasn't talking about the PSVR2.
 
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vivftp

Member
Most of the impressions I've listened too have said that RE8 feels similar to boneworks and half life Alyx with some of its own new additions.
But still, most people are going to prefer playing pancake games on TV's because it is a better experience.

VR will present a unique and new way for folks to experience these games. The benefit to Sony of pushing a hybrid approach is that all the users who own these games to play on TV will eventually build up a library of games that are PSVR2 compatible, and will entice some to invest in a VR headset so they can experience the games they own in a completely different way. It also offers a unique selling point available to PlayStation gamers that could sway buying decisions for people to buy certain games on their platform instead of another one if they get the TV version and a PSVR2 version all in one.

It's fine if "most" people will prefer to play on TV. There's no way to tell just how many will want to experience the games in VR at this point in time.
 

SLB1904

Banned
VR will present a unique and new way for folks to experience these games. The benefit to Sony of pushing a hybrid approach is that all the users who own these games to play on TV will eventually build up a library of games that are PSVR2 compatible, and will entice some to invest in a VR headset so they can experience the games they own in a completely different way. It also offers a unique selling point available to PlayStation gamers that could sway buying decisions for people to buy certain games on their platform instead of another one if they get the TV version and a PSVR2 version all in one.

It's fine if "most" people will prefer to play on TV. There's no way to tell just how many will want to experience the games in VR at this point in time.
The popular thing right now in pc vr scene are mods for games like re2 re3 read dead. And so on, and these mods doesn't have the backing of big studios. Don't listen to this dude. His agenda is clear as Tuesday
 

vivftp

Member
The popular thing right now in pc vr scene are mods for games like re2 re3 read dead. And so on, and these mods doesn't have the backing of big studios. Don't listen to this dude. His agenda is clear as Tuesday

Oh I know which way they lean on the subject. I'll still try to inject some reason into the discussion though :)
 
Horror games in VR>>>> flat screen
Not up for debate. How many people wish alien Isolation had a native VR port? That's all I could hear when the game got revealed.
100%

I played Blair Witch on Game Pass when it released. Headphones w/ binaural audio, in the dark, alone, was pretty scary. On Quest 2 its an entirely different experience.
 
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