Unknown?
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Well, like I said, it all depends since we don't know. One usefulness is you don't have to use an expensive phone or tablet or buy a POS tablet that is only good for browsing the web but that depends on the pricing of this too.
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Insider Gaming: Sony’s next Playstation Handheld (not a cloud-streaming device)
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Someone make a poll asking folks how many hours a day they are actually offline.
“Lulz when I sleep”…who turns their phone off when they sleep?!?
This is a non issue in the countries this product will be serving.
“Lulz when I sleep”…who turns their phone off when they sleep?!?
This is a non issue in the countries this product will be serving.
tmlDan
Member
if this happens, the remote play function needs to be much faster and smoother to launch...which i assume is why they have a dedicated device for it.
For some reason i feel like both Grubb and insider are missing info, it could be a remote play/cloud device, hell it could even be more.
It seems like these sites are predicting a lot of hardware without any of it releasing yet to prove they are not full of shit.
For some reason i feel like both Grubb and insider are missing info, it could be a remote play/cloud device, hell it could even be more.
It seems like these sites are predicting a lot of hardware without any of it releasing yet to prove they are not full of shit.
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Tsaki
Member
I can see it be a successful hardware if:
1) $199 max
2) Can remote play your PS5 over local Wi-Fi and over data when away from home
3) It has nice integration with the PS5 e.g. you play on console and with the press of a button you can continue your session on the handheld
4) Incorporated with PS+ Premium. Can play every game on Premium on the cloud (PS1, PSP, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PS5 when Sony puts the blades for it).
1) $199 max
2) Can remote play your PS5 over local Wi-Fi and over data when away from home
3) It has nice integration with the PS5 e.g. you play on console and with the press of a button you can continue your session on the handheld
4) Incorporated with PS+ Premium. Can play every game on Premium on the cloud (PS1, PSP, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PS5 when Sony puts the blades for it).
KXVXII9X
Member
They could.be different groups.pf people. I didn't mind them showing games way in advance since they constantly showed new trailers instead of what we have now which is way worse with showing a teaser and then nothing for several years. Showing the future lineup gave me reassurance. I never understood why others had a fit or think the current way is better. Nintendo can announce games close to release because they steadily release games.
Skifi28
Member
Being online and having fast enough internet to stream games are two very different things. We're talking about a handheld here, not something you leave inside your house.
diffusionx
Gold Member
This is a really stupid idea.
Unknown?
Member
Yeah I agree, I never cared but every E3 we heard complaints about it being too far out and in some cases that was true but now days everything is a 5 year cycle almost.
SteelCurtain 59
Member
This somehow sounds worse than a cloud handheld, who is this product for? If I'm at home I'll play my PS5, and if I want to play remote I already have devices that can do that. I'm sure people will still buy it but I just don't understand who this actually appeals to
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Remote Play isn't always online.
If it uses a 16:9 8" screen then it will look nothing like that. The screen in that concept is probably some 5.5".
Here's a FireHD 8" tablet with an ipega gamepad for tablets. It's closer to what one would expect from a screen controller with embedded DualSense, at least in terms of proportions.
Well if you live with someone else in your house, sometimes the TV will be occupied with other people watching other stuff. And sometimes you might just want to chill in the bed playing your games. And others would like to keep playing during toilet break.
If Sony is smart they could even make special 2nd screen applications for party games and such, and/or use the display controller to show inventory and stats, and completely disable the GUI in some games. Just make a Wii U controller out of it.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m for it. Remote play isn’t 1:1, as it doesn’t do certain things well. Like the touch pad and its buttons, motion controls, adaptive triggers or haptic feedback. If their new remote play/streaming handheld can add those missing features, it could be really cool.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Right.
Like my phone.
I completely understand that not everyone has great mobile coverage. I do, so for my situation I have no issues with the product requirements.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Last time I've tried I found the remote play latency too high. Might be okay for turned based games but even non-competitive real time action games weren't really enjoyable.
I'm not sold on all those cloud gaming and remote play efforts.
Only thing that worked surprisingly well was Steam's remote play from PC to Steam Deck with minimal and almost non perceiveable delay when compareing the SD side by side to my monitor.
However, I don't like to be dependent on the Internet.
I'm not sold on all those cloud gaming and remote play efforts.
Only thing that worked surprisingly well was Steam's remote play from PC to Steam Deck with minimal and almost non perceiveable delay when compareing the SD side by side to my monitor.
However, I don't like to be dependent on the Internet.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
alphachino
Member
€299/$299/£250/¥39,000 Wi-Fi only, +30% with 5G.
StereoVsn
Member
If true, this is extremely dumb. Purely steaming handheld will fail. PS4 local games with custom AMD APU plus PS5 streaming would make a lot more sense.
Edit: Also if it's PS5 remote Play, why does it need always on Internet Connection? Wouldn't local Remote Play perform better when at home?
Edit: Also if it's PS5 remote Play, why does it need always on Internet Connection? Wouldn't local Remote Play perform better when at home?
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FoxMcChief
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That’s gold. Just missing a tree.First image has leaked
HeisenbergFX4
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Fbh
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For anyone who cares about this sort of thing why not just get a backbone or some other similar device and use your phone which probably already has a nice screen, decent battery life, probably already has a mobile internet contract on it, let's you stream from Ps5, Xbox, and PC (as well as streaming services) etc
I get Sony can't really afford to make a new handheld because they'd have to split up their team to work on handheld games or they'd have to hold back all Ps5 games to make them compatible with some singnificantly weaker hardware. But they could just team up with someone like the Backbone and really push that angle.
I get Sony can't really afford to make a new handheld because they'd have to split up their team to work on handheld games or they'd have to hold back all Ps5 games to make them compatible with some singnificantly weaker hardware. But they could just team up with someone like the Backbone and really push that angle.
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Hugare
Member
It would make too much sense
What a useless piece of garbage this is if true
But making a PS VITA 2 would also be dumb. Sony would have to support 2 different platforms (actually 4, with the PS4/Pro), and it would have the samed destiny as the Vita.
Maybe if it had the could run PS4 games it could work, since crossgen is still a thing.
Switch works because its Nintendo only platform.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I was looking into that the other week but I think the PS5 backbone is only for iPhone.For anyone who cares about this sort of thing why not just get a backbone or some other similar device and use your phone which probably already has a nice screen, decent battery life, probably already has a mobile internet contract on it, let's you stream from Ps5, Xbox, and PC (as well as streaming services) etc
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DrFigs
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Playstation has a mobile division. They haven't done anything yet, but they have been hiring for a year nowFor anyone who cares about this sort of thing why not just get a backbone or some other similar device and use your phone which probably already has a nice screen, decent battery life, probably already has a mobile internet contract on it, let's you stream from Ps5, Xbox, and PC (as well as streaming services) etc
I get Sony can't really afford to make a new handheld because they'd have to split up their team to work on handheld games or they'd have to hold back all Ps5 games to make them compatible with some singnificantly weaker hardware. But they could just team up with someone like the Backbone and really push that angle.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I mentioned it above in my post.For anyone who cares about this sort of thing why not just get a backbone or some other similar device and use your phone which probably already has a nice screen, decent battery life, probably already has a mobile internet contract on it, let's you stream from Ps5, Xbox, and PC (as well as streaming services) etc
I get Sony can't really afford to make a new handheld because they'd have to split up their team to work on handheld games or they'd have to hold back all Ps5 games to make them compatible with some singnificantly weaker hardware. But they could just team up with someone like the Backbone and really push that angle.
Backbone and devices like it are missing features like:
Adaptive triggers
Haptic rumble
Motion controls
Reliable use of touch pad and it’s buttons
ToTTenTranz
Banned
The OP is mixing contradicting reports.
If it's cloud-based (PS Plus Premium) then it needs internet to connect to Sony's PS5 hardware on their cloud servers.
If it's a Remote Play device then it needs to connect to the same local network as the PS5, and it doesn't need internet connection.
Fbh
Member
Yeah for some reason the Ps5 edition is only for iPhone. You can still get the regular backbone for Android, it has the same feature but generic "A,B,X,Y" buttons and it's black
Sleepwalker
Member
It is, I use this on my android:
Amazon.com: GameSir X2 Bluetooth Mobile Gaming Controller for iPhone/Android Phone, Wireless Phone Game Controller with 500mAh Battery, Stretch Design Up to 173mm, Compatible with Apple Arcade and MFi Games : Video Games
Amazon.com: GameSir X2 Bluetooth Mobile Gaming Controller for iPhone/Android Phone, Wireless Phone Game Controller with 500mAh Battery, Stretch Design Up to 173mm, Compatible with Apple Arcade and MFi Games : Video Games
www.amazon.com
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Badlucktroll
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I bet this device is so you can take all your modern playstation shit (ps plus library, ps4 native maybe, and ps5 remote) with you on the go, and it will do it well
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
This product probably exists based on data Sony has collected from players using streaming to access their PS + services and features.
Why not offer a better device/features/experience at a premium cost that keeps players in their eco system and not on their mobile phone.
Why not offer a better device/features/experience at a premium cost that keeps players in their eco system and not on their mobile phone.
Fbh
Member
I guess, though I don't know how big the audience is that is willing to pay an extra $150-200 for those things.
I still think Sony could work with them to make a Backbone 2 with some or all of those features, or develop something similar themselves
Coloress_Kafka
Member
It exists for me, my spouse hogs the TV to watch Anime and I want to play games but still be in the same room with them. Trying to balance an iPad on my lap with a controller sucks as does using the hacked Remote Play app on my Steam Deck.
A device that connects directly to the PS5 but just a DualSense controller with a screen sounds cool.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
begotten
Member
Why are people so hyper focused on the remote-play / cloud streaming aspect of it? Who gives a shit about that.
I just want a handhold that I can play and install shit on normally. Gives us access to the old store games (I want my Vita, PSP, PS1/2 classics back), PS4 games and whatever else is compatible from our library to install and I'm fine with that if the price is good. I wouldn't play or stream next gen-titles on the fucking thing anyways.
I just want a handhold that I can play and install shit on normally. Gives us access to the old store games (I want my Vita, PSP, PS1/2 classics back), PS4 games and whatever else is compatible from our library to install and I'm fine with that if the price is good. I wouldn't play or stream next gen-titles on the fucking thing anyways.
crackajack
Member
I am actually sort of interested in a remote play device. If it also can use PS+ Premium, the lower resolution stuff, since fauxK/4k downscaled looks probably pretty good, but drops inevitably much detail.
So actually this:
Something that should not cost more than a regular original controller and just uses my phone for the heavy lifting. No idea what an actual handheld should do better without being entirely redundant to my phone.
Just upgrading the capabilities of the Vita would also suffice. I think a hacked Vita even has the current android remote play running on it, so supports PS5 remote play, which the official software doesn't. Possibly because remote play officially requires now 1080 and the Vita-screen is just not good enough anymore? PS Now never had many customers but removing it from the Vita was anyway odd. Might have been used now by some Premium tier members. But support for those clever TVs is also not there, Sony kind of sleeping and thinking we are waiting for their devices?
I'd also prefer a PS4P, but I guess for that it is already too late. Having a Series S of their own could have been the base for such a device, just throttle it more for a 720p display and good enough. Not a single game would have needed to be made.
A PS5P is too early though.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Following days of speculation, Insider Gaming can report that there’s a new PlayStation Handheld in development.
Codenamed the Q Lite, the next PlayStation handheld is the next piece of Sony hardware that aims to be yet another piece of hardware that requires the PlayStation 5. Insider Gaming understands that the Q Lite is not a cloud-streaming device, but instead uses Remote Play with the PlayStation 5 – A feature the console giant has been pushing these past couple of weeks.
Sporting adaptive streaming up to 1080p and 60FPS, the new device will require constant connectivity to the internet.
As for the console’s physical features, early prototypes show the console will look a lot like a PlayStation 5 controller, but with a massive 8-inch LCD touchscreen in the center. The device sports adaptive triggers for haptic feedback and will include what you would come to expect from a handheld – Volume buttons, speakers, an audio input jack, etc.
Insider Gaming understands that the Q Lite is in its QA phase and is scheduled to release before the PlayStation 5 Pro and after the Detachable Disc Drive PS5.
As previously mentioned by industry insider Jeff Grubb, Sony is planning to announce its “second phase of the PS5”, which was in reference to its future game slate. Ironically though, this “second phase” is very much true for Sony’s hardware offerings, with the new detachable disc drive PlayStation 5, Project Nomad (wireless earphones), Project Voyager (wireless headset), and Q Lite (handheld) all scheduled to release within a very short period. It’s understood that the PlayStation 5 Pro is aiming for a holiday 2024 release.
EXCLUSIVE - Sony's Next PlayStation Handheld
Following days of speculation, Insider Gaming can report that there's a new PlayStation Handheld in development.insider-gaming.com
Not a cloud streaming device… needs to have constant internet connectivity (and how do you use it outside of your house)? Instead of depending from an expensive cloud server darn you depend from your home’s upload bandwidth.
Is the Wii U designer working with Sony now? Who grew lit this idea? Are they trying to launder money?
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Games of Today
Member
They are going to lose their balls on this if you can't just buy games from the Ps store, download them and play them without internet connection.
What a stupid move.
What a stupid move.
Banjo64
cumsessed
If it uses a 16:9 8" screen then it will look nothing like that. The screen in that concept is probably some 5.5".
Here's a FireHD 8" tablet with an ipega gamepad for tablets. It's closer to what one would expect from a screen controller with embedded DualSense, at least in terms of proportions.
That looks much better
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Logitech G Cloud already does everything this rumored handheld will do, plus it can do Xbox Remote Play, xCloud, Geforce Now, Steam Link, Moonlight, etc...
This PS5 handheld is going to be dead in the water, because you know damn well they aren't going to allow support for streaming from other platforms.
This PS5 handheld is going to be dead in the water, because you know damn well they aren't going to allow support for streaming from other platforms.
MisterXDTV
Member
????
How are you supposed to play games without connecting to a PS5???
What do you expect, PS5 hardware in a handheld?
Surf Ninja
Member
A hallmark of trustworthy journalism is to not cite any sources or even mention a source at all, just say you can report it, and then mention Jeff Grubb.
DrFigs
Member
The standards are different for videogame journalism
James Sawyer Ford
Member
This could be pretty cool if it legit has a DualSense with a screen and fixes the main issues with streaming
Why not? It’s just an accessory. If you don’t want it don’t buy it.
Why not? It’s just an accessory. If you don’t want it don’t buy it.
so they can be curb stomped by Nintendo a third time.