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[adamsapple]

Ah, I see we’ve found our ReAl GaMeR

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

 

[cireza]

they Microsoft just ran out of willing parties

It was becoming a licensing nightmare from what I understand with the possible remaining games. That's too bad really, there are still 360 games I would love to have on modern console so I could throw away my PS3 (yes, I am talking about Outrun and After Burner).

SEGA absolutely need to re-release Outrun 2 and Coast to Coast is some way.

 

[thismeinteil]

What’s a “ReAl GaMeR”

Idk. But I think you should buy Redfall. It's a highly polished co-op zom.

 

[mrmustard]

It was becoming a licensing nightmare from what I understand with the possible remaining games. That's too bad really, there are still 360 games I would love to have on modern console so I could throw away my PS3 (yes, I am talking about Outrun and After Burner).

SEGA absolutely need to re-release Outrun 2 and Coast to Coast is some way.

I think most sports games are a licencing hell. I even remeber that Nintendo had to remove Mike Tyson from Punch Out to keep it selling. Also music stuff sucks. I remeber that one the Hitmans wasn't allowed to be sold for some time because of that.

 

[demented waffle]

TIL there are no xbox fans. I guess the green rats and smurfs are a thing done by our governments or something. Well played I guess. That or complete horseshit. We'll see where Occam's razor points to.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Just saw this reply:



I wonder under what circumstances a statement from Microsoft would convince those who were totally convinced by a single tweet by a former team lead on WOW.

I thought this might pick up a few lols and it has. But, serious question, are we to just constantly assume the worst? Can anyone say anything and we just treat it as fact? As far as I know the evidence is one guy's tweet.

 

[RickMasters]

If that be the case…… where’s my money, Microsoft?

 

[RickMasters]

Funny thing….. I was watching a vid on YouTube yesterday…..apparently something like 60% of internet traffic is bots, these days. That’s insane!

 

[Crayon]

Just saw this reply:



I wonder under what circumstances a statement from Microsoft would convince those who were totally convinced by a single tweet by a former team lead on WOW.

Oh forget the Warhammer guy. Idk who the hell he is. In fact I don't have to take anyone's word for it. It's been around and outed several times over the years. And it's not necessarily a firm hired. Note that denial is pretty specific to one tactic.

 

[adamsapple]

TIL there are no xbox fans. I guess the green rats and smurfs are a thing done by our governments or something. Well played I guess. That or complete horseshit. We'll see where Occam's razor points to.

Don't worry, Microsoft will acquire Occam's razor and release it elsewhere on a case by case basis

 

[Black_Stride]

Just saw this reply:



I wonder under what circumstances a statement from Microsoft would convince those who were totally convinced by a single tweet by a former team lead on WOW.

Josh Munsee is paid by MS so of course he is going to defend them.

Though Mark Kern clarifies Influencer networks and streamers being paid by corpos isnt exactly a secret.

 

[demented waffle]

Don't worry, Microsoft will acquire Occam's razor and release it elsewhere on a case by case basis

No way. Our regulators will shut that shit down.

 

[MiguelItUp]

 

[damidu]

Just saw this reply:



I wonder under what circumstances a statement from Microsoft would convince those who were totally convinced by a single tweet by a former team lead on WOW.

lol forget anyone else, any statement from microsoft itself is enough to convince me to the complete opposite of what they're claiming these days.
pretty much need to be an idiot to take what theyr saying at face value, especially after last weeks reveals.

 

[Dlacy13g]

Well if that's the case, I want my cut!

 

[JackMcGunns]

Only MS has shills, everyone else are organic saints.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Im a gamer and own all consoles, get em all at launch. Had every Xbox since OG and was an Xbox Live beta tester. Where is my check?

 

[Topher]

Im a gamer and own all consoles, get em all at launch.

 

[adamsapple]

Im a gamer and own all consoles, get em all at launch. Had every Xbox since OG and was an Xbox Live beta tester. Where is my check?

 

[cireza]

Josh Munsee is paid by MS so of course he is going to defend them.

Though Mark Kern clarifies Influencer networks and streamers being paid by corpos isnt exactly a secret.

Only true for Xbox. Source : believe me.

 

[Edgelord79]

Touché!

 

[Edgelord79]

Accredited news outlet take tweets and official statements as sources though

Ya this is true too sometimes. What a fucked up world this is lol.

 

[Matsuchezz]

This post is peak embarrassment, do you honestly believe that?

Of course not. I was joking this is a vg forum anything here should not be taken seriously at all.

 

[I'm nobody]

Alright.. lets start naming names and lighting torches.

Don't have to if you are smart you know who they are

 

[BootsLoader]

I had a 360.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Josh Munsee is paid by MS so of course he is going to defend them.

If Microsoft were trying to hide that they were paying people to cheerlead for their games division, then wouldn't the fallout be worse if they were caught out lying about it too?

 

[Fredrik]

MS doesn't make the best games, but they have a few franchises e.g I prefer and the titles are sometimes good enough up to really good.
I also still have my ps4 pro but so far only used it for a few titles. But as long as a product is good enough it is ok for me to buy it on any plattform I can afford.

For me e.g. Sony is not a company I can trust (that was the company that thought it would be a good idea to place rootkits on CDs for copy protection....). I also don't think I can really trust MS, but the good thing about this big company is, they get controlled to find problems from many, many companies.

Candid reply: For me it’s not about trust or anything like that, in short I’m using the Xbox ecosystem because I’m a cheap bastard. It’s very possible that Gamepass will devalue games at large, but so be it I just like that I get more games for less money. It simply saves me money.

Day 1 PC versions is great too since PC is my main platform now and I never feel like double dipping because I have to wait on a delayed PC version. Saving money again.

And the occasional Play Anywhere title is nice when I want to play both on console and PC. Yet again, no double dipping, money saved, and no save file juggling either. (They need to make a deal with Valve to at least get save files syncing working)

So I don’t understand the hate and negativity here tbh. To this day I’m still at 0 bought games on Xbox this generation, and my games played stats last year alone was still something crazy like 100 games. I try all kinds of weird games, not just the 10/10 unicorns. The surprise this year is Loop Hero. Fun little game I wouldn’t even have noticed or looked twice at without GP.


However. Sony have better and more exclusives. Plain and simple. Skipping Playstation is like skipping a Nintendo console, you just don’t do that, it’s not a rational thing to do.
Of course the other side of that coin is that between those awesome releases I’m not really using my PS5.

So, both platforms have their ups and down imo.

 

[SirTerry-T]

Yeah but licensing issues OH GOD I'm already defending.

You want the brown paper bag full of used bank notes put in the usual place? Be careful though ..one of the shills last week picked up the wrong bag and thought he was being paid with a week old dog turd.

 

[lostinblue]

I'd switch if they paid me.

I mean, I'd xbox if they paid me.

 

[Black_Stride]

If Microsoft were trying to hide that they were paying people to cheerlead for their games division, then wouldn't the fallout be worse if they were caught out lying about it too?

I dont think anyone is denying streamers/influencers get paid to shill games.
You really think people were genuinely hype for Destruction Allstars?

But the original tweet comes off as if "all" Xbox fans are paid to be fans of Xbox......some people just like the platform and enjoy talking about it.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Just saw this reply:



I wonder under what circumstances a statement from Microsoft would convince those who were totally convinced by a single tweet by a former team lead on WOW.

You do realise a statement from MS on anything to do with gaming these days means fuck all? I guess not everyone has been following the FTC trial where the lies have been unmasked left and right.

 

[Filben]

With all those bots around I wonder which company do they NOT champion or praise to heaven. This is not an exclusive Xbox/MS thing.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Wait. Aren't all console fanboys paid?

 

[Three]

Josh Munsee is paid by MS so of course he is going to defend them.

Though Mark Kern clarifies Influencer networks and streamers being paid by corpos isnt exactly a secret.

His response is going to be "wat?" like Frank X Shaw. Then we get the beans spilt some time later.

 

[DenchDeckard]

There is no other explanation for these people to hype turd after turd. The saddest part is all the people that are not paid but have been brainwashed long enough for the last 20 years and they think they like Xbox ecosystem and MS products.

This is a wild post. It's like people on here get away with claiming Microsoft hasn't done ANYTHING right in 20 years and haven't had good games or contributed anything of value. That's straight up un true.

Even the xbox one generation had some decent games. Not to the level of nintendo or playstation but it's not like they've been only putting 60 metacritic games out for 20 years.

 

[John Wick]

Not surprised with how clowns like Eastwood and timdog post.

Phil says he hates consolewars, while his company pays clowns to non stop troll and shill.

We have a few on this board.

Feel sorry for those shilling without getting paid for it.........

 

[John Wick]

How much do we think adamsapple is banking?

Nothing. He sucks balls instead

 

[Fredrik]

I had a 360.

You only had one? Pfff I want more money then! I had 5!

Spoiler

Because the quality was terrible.
Bought a core and then had a bunch of refurbished and finally bought a slim

 

[adamsapple]

Wait. Isn't all console fanboys paid?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Half of the people here, including Topher , @GHG and many of the sony guys pay their gamepass subscription through Microsoft rewards. Are they paid shills?!

You know I'm not talking about those two specifically because I've actually both seen them in various conversations and have had convos with them in via replies, to know they are not cappers for Microsoft or Xbox, nor Game Pass. They have many valid criticisms about all three of those things.

Plus my comment was WRT a specific forum, that has obviously become a haven for a lot of Xbox fanatics who are also pro-acquisition nuts, and cap for virtually everything MS does in addition to using MS Rewards to pay off their GP subs (alongside VPN tricks & loopholes). How you tried turning that onto specific people on this forum is quite the leap

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

ABK might have made things a little worse but this started long before that. Remember before the console launches not that long ago? There is, and always will be, something for those emotionally invested to battle over. Especially when people are getting paid. By people getting paid, those tweets and stories that are constantly linked, not necessarily posters here even though we know of one recent outing.

I mean, hell, just look at the Mifflin Devin n64 console war post from 1997, archived proof that this petty nonsense is a tale as old as time. Or at least consoles.

 

[Bernardougf]

I don't think Sony would pay someone whos name is not even worth to be in the headline (Former World of Warcraft Designer)
or in bold (Ex-World of Warcraft Team Lead), because nobody knows him. It's almost like "Former Ubisoft cleaning woman says open world games suck".

I wholeheartedly agree with this cleaning lady ... someone gives her employer of the month right fucking now!!

 

[Painskiller]

He's right.

 

[cireza]

His response is going to be "wat?" like Frank X Shaw. Then we get the beans spilt some time later.

MS representative should have answered "Alright, how much do you want?".

Such a wasted opportunity.

 

[Kappa]

? Why would a random worker know something like that. But yes "influencers" get paid surprise surprise

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

plus combined with the fact that Xbox actually puts a gag order on their own shows for multiplatform games (e.g. anything Atlus it seems) is what makes it negative IMO

or flat out denying it despite there being proof and some of them having been here at the Xbox One launch when a bunch of Microsoft astroturfers were busted & banned… plus we have the usual like you were pointing out such as this

funny how it almost always comes from accounts that everything about them screams alt

What, I am not personal enough for your grace? Honestly, marketing DOES work this way. From Sony as well. And lesser companies. And medical companies. And governments.

Etc.

The fact that someone that worked in a company talks about it doesn’t turn the world into a Tom Clancy piece.

 

[FrankWza]

He was calling people like you.

Your daddy Jimbo the ugly Ryan, make you all do his dirty work for free. Xbots are rollin in money thanks to Uncle Phill and his love towards xbots.

Ask your coworkers. They have the handbook.

There are many aspects and tenets to Microsoft Evangelism but of relevance, it purports creating a cult-like legion of supporters and followers, VIP or otherwise that promote Microsoft products and monopolistic practices with a cult like fervor - that regards MS competitors, direct or indirect as war participants that must be extinguished by any and all available means.

MS Evangelism is literally a philosophy of corporate religion, where the consumers, specially the hardcore, are the faithful, and guided by faith to the altar of Microsoft and its products. Microsoft being the church while microsoft employees and vips are the clergy.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ctrl-alt-deceive-all-the-dirt-info-lies-and-lols-we-found-during-ftc-vs-microsoft.1658430/post-268142079

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

Damn. Sony shills really becoming imaginative.

Unlike shills for xbox who can only ever come up with some variation on "b b but sony too!". No imagination whatsoever.

 

[BootsLoader]

Because the quality was terrible.
Bought a core and then had a bunch of refurbished and finally bought a slim

Damn, you had quite a ride. I got a used one, played it until I got a RROD (once), I closed the console, opened it and it worked normally.
Sold it the next week.