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The truth is ... Xbox ditched generations with the Xbox One.
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Giallo Corsa
Member
Literally "wut ?"
NoLootBoxDev
Member
BbMajor7th
Member
The truth is... if XBOX SERIES had been stomping all over the competition for the last three years, nobody would be retro-fitting these 4D-chess narratives onto the current generation.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This guy is a nob
mansoor1980
Gold Member
so basically.....................................
anothertech
Member
Uhuh.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
the truth is....that Xbox fucked up. as simple as that.
near
Gold Member
He's essentially saying that the Xbox One was the last console that stayed with the nature of a 'console generation'. With the Series X/S, Microsoft will no longer share a time period with market competitors in releasing iterations of its consoles. I get what he is trying to say, and I don't think he's wrong. We're moving in a weird direction in console gaming, god bless Nintendo for always being late to the party.
th4tguy
Member
What he is saying isn't too far fetched. Internally, the industry has been looking at how best to replicate similar release model to that of cell phones for software and hardware.
Having a new system come out more regularly in combination with software that can maintain compatibility across multiple iterations of the hardware, gets users locked into an eco system, purchase pattern that generates a lot of predictable and steady revenue stream.
Xbox not taking off like MS hoped already has them pivoting to GP as it's primary growth focus. It's not crazy to believe that they would also shift release patterns to a less powerful, less expensive, but more frequent release of the xbox.
Having a new system come out more regularly in combination with software that can maintain compatibility across multiple iterations of the hardware, gets users locked into an eco system, purchase pattern that generates a lot of predictable and steady revenue stream.
Xbox not taking off like MS hoped already has them pivoting to GP as it's primary growth focus. It's not crazy to believe that they would also shift release patterns to a less powerful, less expensive, but more frequent release of the xbox.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
They only ditched generations in the sense that they refused to innovate with the new console. Same OS, same controller, same lack of exclusive games or games that leverage the selling points of the new hardware.
Sony got a lot of flack because of the "we believe in generations" statement, people took this to mean that their first party games would be exclusive, but I think they actually meant that the overall experience of playing on PS5 will literally feel different, even the same games will be more immersive. You can argue if that is true or not, but I believe that was their aim.
Sony got a lot of flack because of the "we believe in generations" statement, people took this to mean that their first party games would be exclusive, but I think they actually meant that the overall experience of playing on PS5 will literally feel different, even the same games will be more immersive. You can argue if that is true or not, but I believe that was their aim.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Horseganador
Member
It does not seem very intelligent for the "followers" paid by Xbox on the networks to talk about a new generation in Dec 2023.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
If Xbox One and Series is the same generation, why are there games that can only be played on Series and not One?
Quantum253
Member
Xbox One>Xbox One X>Series S>SeriesX
Seems generations are still there. Although, generational performance leaps are not what they used to be, but that's the nature of tech/price
Seems generations are still there. Although, generational performance leaps are not what they used to be, but that's the nature of tech/price
TheGodfather07
Member
Why does everyone say Microsoft won't have a pro console? Was there some leak I'm not aware about?
Crayon
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DeepEnigma
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skit_data
Member
I think they explicitly said so both in court and outside. Of course there is also a complete lack of any info on such a console in the leaks from earlier this year.
FrankWza
Member
I think spencer came out and said it and now there are rumors that they are starting next gen early.
MisterXDTV
Member
I'm seriously worried for this guy's health....
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Series S (lmao) and Series X are Xbox One Pro? What the hell was Xbox One X?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Ahhhhh... ok that explains everything.
Come on people, think about it, what they're saying is that when counting console sales, we should be counting the 70M sales for XB1+XBS sales together which is better than the PS5 + PS4 170M..... wait... never mind.
Come on people, think about it, what they're saying is that when counting console sales, we should be counting the 70M sales for XB1+XBS sales together which is better than the PS5 + PS4 170M..... wait... never mind.
Gojiira
Banned
Its such a great way for them to fall even further behind, I can already see the narrative of Series X2 being ‘more powerful’ than the PS5 Pro, then when PS6 kicks off next gen for real with a significant hardware advantage it will change to a ‘but its about the engagement, muh gamepass’ and whatever other nonsense cope they favour.
Skifi28
Gold Member
What would new hardware solve if your current hardware is not selling? Clearly, there are other issues you need to address.
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FrankWza
Member
The thing is, it was always so obvious. But since we got the leaks, its embarrassing because we all know it before it even happens. They have no choice but to be similar in their narrative because it's not very deep. It's all reactive to Playstation. Everything they do is.
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MacReady13
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I am so sick and tired of people ALWAYS making excuses for Xbox! They have failed this generation much like they did last generation! Don't try sugar coat it with "but they gave up generations"... BULLSHIT!
Microsoft and their die hard fans are saying shit like this and pushing sub services and engagement times in games over sales cause they are getting trounced where it counts- in console sales and software sales! It's a simple concept that Microsoft and their fans just need to deal with.
Believe me it kills me to see Microsoft and their blind fans act like this. I love my Xbox consoles. Always have. I play my Series X more than my PS5 ffs! But this bullshit of trying to wave away the importance of consoles needs to stop. Outside of mobile gaming (they really aren't dedicated gaming devices no matter how you look at it) consoles (and PC) are the main way to game. Microsoft got into gaming via consoles as they saw the money it was making. Now that they are failing them and their fans are trying to paint different narratives. It's all a load of horseshit.
Microsoft and their die hard fans are saying shit like this and pushing sub services and engagement times in games over sales cause they are getting trounced where it counts- in console sales and software sales! It's a simple concept that Microsoft and their fans just need to deal with.
Believe me it kills me to see Microsoft and their blind fans act like this. I love my Xbox consoles. Always have. I play my Series X more than my PS5 ffs! But this bullshit of trying to wave away the importance of consoles needs to stop. Outside of mobile gaming (they really aren't dedicated gaming devices no matter how you look at it) consoles (and PC) are the main way to game. Microsoft got into gaming via consoles as they saw the money it was making. Now that they are failing them and their fans are trying to paint different narratives. It's all a load of horseshit.
Bond007
Member
With no games/exclusives and no real way to leverage all of these acquistions thus far.....I could care less. Release 30 new consoles in the next 6yrs and it wont make a difference.
Microsoft has never been in the business of benefitting gamers.
From Xbox Live requiring membership from inception to trying to push digital and lack of ownership in modern times. They only try to portray being gamers.
Atleast Sony and Nintendo know what they are- primarily focused on games or sink. Microsoft is more concerned with penetrating your home on as many screens as possible along with all of their other products.
Microsoft has never been in the business of benefitting gamers.
From Xbox Live requiring membership from inception to trying to push digital and lack of ownership in modern times. They only try to portray being gamers.
Atleast Sony and Nintendo know what they are- primarily focused on games or sink. Microsoft is more concerned with penetrating your home on as many screens as possible along with all of their other products.
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DJ12
Member
Yes but
HeisenbergFX4
says these are the conversations he is hearing when with his buds.MS do seem to be living in an alternate reality where they think the can pull this back around on console
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havoc00
Member
Total revenue for the gaming division grew 8 percent for the latest financial quarter, which follows the tech company becoming a video games powerhouse by closing a $68.7 billion deal to acquire Activision Blizzard.
Topher
Gold Member
Total revenue for the gaming division grew 8 percent for the latest financial quarter, which follows the tech company becoming a video games powerhouse by closing a $68.7 billion deal to acquire Activision Blizzard.
Eh.....thought this was about consoles?
MacReady13
Member
Shifting narratives. That is what the die hard fanatics do. They will never admit to the failures of "their" company, just side shift to make things look good.
StereoVsn
Member
They don’t need the Xbox hardware though then. Can just do GamePass, publish games on all platforms and maybe have a cloud streaming box.Total revenue for the gaming division grew 8 percent for the latest financial quarter, which follows the tech company becoming a video games powerhouse by closing a $68.7 billion deal to acquire Activision Blizzard.
No need to spend $billions on designing, making and selling consoles.
StealthGoblin
Banned
And the goalposts have shifted I see.
That's a lot of copium.
That's a lot of copium.
Bumblebeetuna
Gold Member
What does that make the One X?