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Sea of Thieves on PS5 reveals Microsoft's Trojan Horse to turn millions of PS5 users into Xbox users
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efyu_lemonardo
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Don't be silly. MAU is an important metric when those users are paying a subscription fee. And so far that fee goes to the platform owner, not a third party.
Microsoft is probably hoping that one day they'll be big enough to charge a fee to use their service regardless of the device you run it on. In that way they could effectively go around Sony. It's the same thing EA were hoping to achieve on Nintendo's Wii U with their "unprecedented partnership".
If it works then it'll be a loss for Sony. But that's a very big if.
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ManaByte
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Absolutely not true.
kikii
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Sea of Thieves on PS5 Has Progress and Item Transfer, and PlayStation-Only Servers - IGN
With Sea of Thieves set to launch on PS5 on April 30, developer Rare has answered a number of questions about how the soon-to-be former Xbox exclusive works on PlayStation.
efyu_lemonardo
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Companies are out to make money, not raise awareness.
ManaByte
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Sea of Thieves on PS5 Has Progress and Item Transfer, and PlayStation-Only Servers - IGN
With Sea of Thieves set to launch on PS5 on April 30, developer Rare has answered a number of questions about how the soon-to-be former Xbox exclusive works on PlayStation.www.ign.com
You're not reading what's posted. If you unlock an achievement on PS5, it unlocks AT THE EXACT SAME TIME on Xbox. As in real-time. They pop simultaneously. You'll unlock it on PS5 and get an Xbox notification on your mobile app (if you have that turned on) notififying you of the Xbox achivement. Meaning when you're playing on PS5 you're still logged into Xbox.
King Dazzar
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This just reeks of delusional reassurance in the face of changing realities. However. If being able to look at some of your gaming stats done on PS5, via an Xbox app, makes you convinced you're still an Xbox player. Then what harm is there in that. I'm glad Xbox see PS5 as a comfortable new home for their user base.
efyu_lemonardo
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I'll grant you another possibility. That MS uses their platform to sell adds or tries some other way to translate user numbers into dollars. Just like they're doing right now with adds on Windows.
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Lethal01
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Theres the most important difference, that those people aren't playing on an xbox.
Doesn't matter if Microsoft counts how many people are earning achievements.
ManaByte
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Sea of Thieves has a seasonal battle pass and a shop where they sell cosmetics. Again, Rare makes a lot of money selling $40 cosmetic ships to whales.
OmegaSupreme
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Mana is totally unbiased guys.
efyu_lemonardo
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Sounds exactly like MS are a third party.
FunkMiller
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Microsoft should just rebrand as 'Microsoft Gaming' now, and drop the Xbox name. It'd avoid a lot of confusion.
The 'box' is clearly fucking dead as shit. None of us are dumb enough to think anything that's going on shows a healthy console.
The 'box' is clearly fucking dead as shit. None of us are dumb enough to think anything that's going on shows a healthy console.
Self_Destructive
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They'll be counted as MAUs... because *gasp* they ARE monthly active users! 
Fredrik
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I think they said it, that every screen is an Xbox. Pretty sure they connect PC Gamepass to the Xbox stats as well, and the app to play the games is named Xbox, Xbox Cloud hours goes into the same stats too. Everytime you log in to your Xbox account.
I don’t think they connect Steam and Geforce Now playtime into Xbox stats though.
I don’t think they connect Steam and Geforce Now playtime into Xbox stats though.
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ManaByte
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They'll be counted as MAUs... because *gasp* they ARE monthly active users!
ManaByte
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I fail to see the Trojan horse in this. Even if OP is true, it's just a dumb way to force a narrative that doesn't matter.
It's already called Microsoft Gaming, only the console is called an Xbox and some studios are called Xbox Game Studios.
Why would they (PS users) have the xbox app installed just to see achievements pop on a very limited amount of MS games they might buy on their PS5 instead of looking at all their trophies in one place on the PS app which they're more likely to have already installed?
Is being "logged into xbox" on your phone really important or even likely in this scenario? Are you giddy about the xbox data collection side of things or something like that?
graywolf323
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honestly you could have told me the OP was by AdamsApple and I would have believed it
nemiroff
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The advertising industry is estimated to be surpassing a one trillion-dollar value by 2026.
Which basically means "raising awareness" is an important tool for companies to make money.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
You probably meant unhinged.
Fredrik
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Well you made the thread, Xbox has been more than just the Xbox console for a long time. Are you surprised about this? In the future there won’t be traditional consoles, you’re seeing the direction things are moving.
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efyu_lemonardo
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Look. This has been Xbox's vision for ages, as far back as J. Allard if I recall correctly. It's a perfectly fine vision and it suits Microsoft perfectly, too. They've always been about ubiquitous software rather than highly specific hardware.
If they succeed in pulling it off it'll be a big win for them and a loss for Sony and Nintendo. But it's a huge gamble because these aren't the days of IBM and DOS where you could brute force your way into becoming a monopoly. The game industry is much more mature and diversified than the (US) PC business was back then.
Back then, Gates was able to create a situation where you needed Windows and that gave them enormous leverage over other hardware manufacturers as well as software developers.
But today you don't need Xbox for anything. It's a "nice to have", at best.
If they succeed in pulling it off it'll be a big win for them and a loss for Sony and Nintendo. But it's a huge gamble because these aren't the days of IBM and DOS where you could brute force your way into becoming a monopoly. The game industry is much more mature and diversified than the (US) PC business was back then.
Back then, Gates was able to create a situation where you needed Windows and that gave them enormous leverage over other hardware manufacturers as well as software developers.
But today you don't need Xbox for anything. It's a "nice to have", at best.
ManaByte
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No you made the same point I was trying to make but everyone else can’t see.
reinking
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FIFY
efyu_lemonardo
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Microsoft isn't even able to turn Office into a ubiquitous, hardware agnostic service. What makes anyone think they can do it for Xbox?
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nemiroff
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This whole thread is a clusterfuck. But to the surprise of no one. The OP went for a low effort clickbait title with "trigger words", and then when we wrap everything in a juvenile console war which results in people not wanting to understand the simple difference between a specific plastic box and a service.. Yeah.. There's no drama in this "story" whatsoever, but that's what we got anyway.
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ManaByte
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Except they did that with Office.
Self_Destructive
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darrylgorn
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A Trojan horse?
Because you'll need to wear a condom to play it?
Because you'll need to wear a condom to play it?
Jibran#one
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Turn me into a Playstation user by releasing gt7 on Xbox.
Fucking stupid posts
Fucking stupid posts
efyu_lemonardo
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Hardly. There are plenty of alternatives to Office on non Windows devices. And some of those alternatives are even quite popular on Windows itself.
nemiroff
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Nah, he's right, all consoles as we know them will go extinct. And so is PC for that matter. But what we get in return will be even better, so no worries.
LordBritish
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You gotta create a battle.net account to Play Diablo4 on gamepass....
Bumblebeetuna
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The lines are blurring.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Cope thread? Cope thread.
Imagine if SEGA tried this same checkers-level reverse psychology when they went 3P. "No no, those PS2 owners playing VF4 EVO are actually Dreamcast users. The Dreamcast MAU is better than ever!".
Their investors would've likely laughed them into more debt.
Imagine if SEGA tried this same checkers-level reverse psychology when they went 3P. "No no, those PS2 owners playing VF4 EVO are actually Dreamcast users. The Dreamcast MAU is better than ever!".
Their investors would've likely laughed them into more debt.
efyu_lemonardo
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Of course, but one clearly serves the other, and hardly guarantees it. Which makes this a very big gamble.
Ultimately, making a good product is still just as important as raising awareness. And that's as it should be. Microsoft, for some reason, have quite shockingly never learned this lesson.